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Title: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Laurie on July 23, 2007, 08:07:16 AM
I'm about 380 pages in, and I have one question: "Effing"? Is that really appropriate in a children's book?
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: bruce on July 23, 2007, 08:24:46 AM
Gee ever read Huckleberry Finn.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Laurie on July 23, 2007, 08:28:55 AM
No, Bruce, I've never read The Adventures of Huckleberry Effing Finn.

OF COURSE I HAVE. I don't think it's comparable. The "N" word was perfectly acceptable in polite speech during that era.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: buffcoat on July 23, 2007, 08:53:55 AM
She always said that the first book was the most child-oriented and that they would get more adult after that.

Wait till you get to page 680 where they recreate the sacrifice scene from "Apocalypse Now."
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Laurie on July 23, 2007, 09:00:07 AM
I understand that the Death Eater orgy on page 733 makes the writings of the Marquis de Sade look like A. A. Milne. I can't wait!
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: bruce on July 23, 2007, 09:21:26 AM
No, Bruce, I've never read The Adventures of Huckleberry Effing Finn.

OF COURSE I HAVE. I don't think it's comparable. The "N" word was perfectly acceptable in polite speech during that era.

It was called being a smart ass
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Richard_From_CHI on July 23, 2007, 09:30:30 AM
We need to start a spoiler friendly thread on this as I am kinda mad about the book.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Richard_From_CHI on July 23, 2007, 09:32:42 AM
I keep asking the London Cabbies to take me to Diagon Alley. No one thinks I am funny.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Laurie on July 23, 2007, 10:19:29 AM
I keep asking the London Cabbies to take me to Diagon Alley. No one thinks I am funny.

Well, I'm currently lollerskating. That is to say, I lol'd, which is to say that I think you are funny, and that is all that matters.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Jason on July 23, 2007, 01:30:54 PM
I keep asking the London Cabbies to take me to Diagon Alley. No one thinks I am funny.

I can tell you exactly where Diagon Alley is.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=london&ie=UTF8&ll=51.511053,-0.125785&spn=0.001572,0.005021&t=h&z=18&om=1

See the corner of New Row and Bedfordbury? God down Befordbury and there is an alley running parallel to New Row runnign towards St Martin's Lane.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Laurie on July 23, 2007, 01:37:09 PM
I keep asking the London Cabbies to take me to Diagon Alley. No one thinks I am funny.

I can tell you exactly where Diagon Alley is.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=london&ie=UTF8&ll=51.511053,-0.125785&spn=0.001572,0.005021&t=h&z=18&om=1

See the corner of New Row and Bedfordbury? God down Befordbury and there is an alley running parallel to New Row runnign towards St Martin's Lane.

Are you sending Poor Richard in the direction of a good old fashioned English mugging?
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: John Junk on July 23, 2007, 01:39:26 PM
more like a muggling.

rimshot please.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Emily on July 23, 2007, 05:09:39 PM
I'm about 380 pages in, and I have one question: "Effing"? Is that really appropriate in a children's book?

wait unitl you get to page 736.

Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Gore Marie on July 23, 2007, 08:45:58 PM
Omg Omg. It is all I can do not to look at that page mentioned.  In fact, today I am briefly breaking my self-imposed temporary internet leave of absence that I have been adhering to for a couple weeks so as to not have this book spoiled.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: erika on July 23, 2007, 09:17:28 PM
I posted this on AST, but I'll post it here because I'm really wondering just how good these books can be:

My best friend just told her husband to tell me she's "not accepting phone calls tonight" so she can finish the book which she bought yesterday. Didn't really care why I was calling, but let me know, through him, that she wouldn't be talking to me tonight.

I'm not really sure any book is good enough to allow someone to be that rude. That's all I'm saying. I still love her, but I'm pretty pissed off.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Emily on July 23, 2007, 09:19:20 PM
Omg Omg. It is all I can do not to look at that page mentioned.  In fact, today I am briefly breaking my self-imposed temporary internet leave of absence that I have been adhering to for a couple weeks so as to not have this book spoiled.

Obliviate!
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Pride of Staten Island on July 23, 2007, 09:57:07 PM
I'm about 380 pages in, and I have one question: "Effing"? Is that really appropriate in a children's book?

wait unitl you get to page 736.



That's the page where Snape rapes Harmione.

(I'm sorry. I stole this joke from the Onion. I also apologize for the tasteless of my comment. So double apologies. I am so, so sorry.)
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: johnfgillson on July 24, 2007, 03:37:25 PM
Yeah, I think she took liberties with the language she could use in this book. I think the one draw about the book was that it aged with the core readership of the first book and they could "grow older" with the characters.

That might be the case but I think she forgot somewhere along the way that in the end Harry Potter is a childrens book and after that original group have finished the series it will become a childrens book again. I can understand that certain things were unavoidable in the series that made it more mature than a normal kids book. But, the language was definitely not needed, and frankly felt gratuitous.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: buffcoat on July 24, 2007, 03:43:21 PM
I was looking for a magical-themed version of Deadwood, language-wise, so of course I was disappointed.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: LostInReno on July 24, 2007, 08:16:18 PM
Never read a Harry Potter book. Tried and couldn't do it. But the new movie is pretty sweet. Especially the appearance of Helena Bonham Carter.

(http://www.canekpelaez.com/pensadero/posts-images/2006/11/helena.png)
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Richard_From_CHI on July 25, 2007, 05:25:39 AM
Never read a Harry Potter book. Tried and couldn't do it. But the new movie is pretty sweet. Especially the appearance of Helena Bonham Carter.

(http://www.canekpelaez.com/pensadero/posts-images/2006/11/helena.png)

Amazingly they didn't even have to make her up.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: John Junk on July 25, 2007, 01:07:32 PM
I never read the books either, but I like the movies.  I am curious, are Herminey and the REdhead (Eff if I know how to spell their names or what they are...) locking braces or what?  In the last movie there was mad sexual tension, and now they seem to have some couple's rapport but there's no snogging.  Also, the new movie is notable for having a character that might as well not exist except that she kisses Potter and then rats out the gang and gets intentionally ignored for the rest of the movie (even though you find out later she was pretty much tortured into ratting them out, which actually kinda makes her even less interesting).

I heard the new Potter book is basically Tropic of Cancer with magic tricks.  Am I right?
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: johnfgillson on July 25, 2007, 02:30:56 PM
Pretty much. The hardcore scenes don't bother me as much as the language though. Love can't be censored man. Even if it is pretty filthy love....
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: LostInReno on July 26, 2007, 07:48:07 PM
I think Harry needs to meet a nice girl. Someone that won't forget about him during the summer, or turn to the dark side(sorry sounded like star wars) but Harry needs to release some sexual frustration.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Sarah on July 27, 2007, 09:41:02 AM
As evidenced by his role in Equus.  And his guest stint on Extras.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Laurie on July 27, 2007, 09:59:03 AM
Oh man, that Extras episode made me feel dirty. Like, Xtina Aguilera dirrrty, with extraneous r's and shit.

Not to say the very least about those Equus videos. Never has horsefucking and mutilation looked so appealing. Not even in Zoo (http://imdb.com/title/tt0874423/). Okay, especially not in Zoo.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Gore Marie on July 27, 2007, 05:34:16 PM
Haha I got to page 736 and cracked up.  It was all in caps too.

Other adult things:
Something along the lines of "Bellatrix looked at Voldemort like he was her lover" ???

And, not trying to give anything away...but was there an implied rape with one character?? What Rowling alluded to seemed to be more than just being beat up. 
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Richard_From_CHI on July 30, 2007, 09:51:47 PM
I totally missed that if it was true. I sure hope not.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Emily on July 30, 2007, 10:41:54 PM
the scene was ambiguous, but i didnt read in that specific way.

also, its funny you mention the "lover" part because i completely glazed over it (one too many harlequins i guess..)

Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: bobby. on July 31, 2007, 12:28:33 PM
I'm about 380 pages in, and I have one question: "Effing"? Is that really appropriate in a children's book?

haha, who says this and where?!!
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Laurie on July 31, 2007, 12:50:31 PM
I'm about 380 pages in, and I have one question: "Effing"? Is that really appropriate in a children's book?

haha, who says this and where?!!

There are at least five instances of this. It's mostly Harry and Ron, but I think Hermione gets one in as well. I didn't mark the pages.
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Emily on July 31, 2007, 02:44:43 PM
but... are they always wearing the horcrux when speaking it? if so, you know who is to blame...

ps: near rutgers tonight 5-8pm? care to join some fellow harry potter enthusiasts in a discussion of book 7? join us in the SCILS lounge. Berti Botts jelly belly beans to be served.

Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: Emily on July 31, 2007, 08:03:00 PM
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/hippocatgeek/snape2.jpg)

Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: bobby. on August 01, 2007, 06:22:02 AM
I'm about 380 pages in, and I have one question: "Effing"? Is that really appropriate in a children's book?

haha, who says this and where?!!

There are at least five instances of this. It's mostly Harry and Ron, but I think Hermione gets one in as well. I didn't mark the pages.

You're either joking or you have the "adult version" and the "adult version" is actually different.

I should've gotten the "adult version", maybe!

"Maybe".
Title: Re: Harry Effing Potter
Post by: nick on August 01, 2007, 12:30:30 PM
I'm about 380 pages in, and I have one question: "Effing"? Is that really appropriate in a children's book?

haha, who says this and where?!!

There are at least five instances of this. It's mostly Harry and Ron, but I think Hermione gets one in as well. I didn't mark the pages.

You're either joking or you have the "adult version" and the "adult version" is actually different.

I should've gotten the "adult version", maybe!

"Maybe".


They don't actually say the real word, but there's a lot of effin' and jeffin' in the book. Well, mostly just the "effing."