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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: John Junk on August 09, 2007, 04:01:17 PM
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There, I said it. Am I a mindless minion of Scharpling? Maybe. But seriously, L for Lunatic is right. Doubtless someone will rush in to defend this ghoul. I don't care if he pledges sixteen mouse pledges a year. I don't care if his heart is made of gold; his brain is made of turd. _______ has got to go. I didn't even HEAR the crap he was spouting two weeks ago until much later. I tuned in just after his tirade. I re-listened to the podcast and was like "HOLY MOLY". I'm surprised Tom was even able to finish the show without eating a roll of paper towels. _____ was just spitting hate in the worst possible hater fashion, reminiscing about the good old days that were, like, two years ago--? No wonder Tom took the week off! If I was Tom I would literally be afraid of this guy. I propose a ban on He Who Shall Not Be Named. Seriously, he's unhinged. He's WAY too invested in the show, he's gotten seriously bitter and creepy in the last few years. Half the time he sounds like he's wasted. A couple of years ago he flipped out in a similar way, but then the conversation ended on a somewhat civil note, but no longer. He even called the FOT a bunch of elves. I don't know about you, HWSNBN, but I signed a pledge to "Honor Tom", and that is not something I take lightly. If you can't understand the gravity of this pledge, I pity you. Good day, Sir.
... I said Good Day!
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I was thinking about making a thread like this. I can't stand this guy.
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The test will be if Jason has turned on him. I think he was the only remaining fan.
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I'm anti-______ but
pro-_____ ____ phone call, if that makes sense.
I just enjoy hearing Tom berate the haters; it always cracks me up.
As for people talking smack about FOT - meh... What's the rap on us again? That we really admire Tom? I don't feel especially stigmatized by that.
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This is a tough one. But I am gonna vote for the banning of Captain Jack. He has run his course.
He is just a little too crazy and he totally mocked the board.
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ummm i actually thought his call was really funny last week. especially because tom let him rant and rave and then the guy didn't know what to do with himself.
made me giggle to him say "are you still there?" and when it was clear tom hadn't hung up on him, he really didn't have much else to say.
silly captain jack.
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He is just a little too crazy and he totally mocked the board.
This is beyond the pale! I mean, the thought of harm being visited upon Tom is distasteful and all, but we must not be made mock of by a faux-nautical miscreant.
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I can't speak for Tom, but let me flesh my P.O.V. out a little more...
I've had people come at me the way Capt. Jack did to Tom the other night, and in a sense they are ridiculous, and a witty person can always find a way of making that person look stupid (because of course the whole situation is stupid), especially if it's something over the radio, but I actually didn't think that call was funny at all. When people come at you like that, it's not really a joke. Capt. Jack is acting like a Wurster character, except (persona aside) he's a real guy who is genuinely angry at Tom for no good reason. When you're trying to do what you do, and someone comes and takes a dump on all of it just out of spite, and because they've got some demented idea about who you are and how you should be, it just makes you want to forget the whole thing. I'm sure Tom is over it by now, if it ever even got him down in the first place, but as a listener, I just wanted to voice my opinion on this matter.
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I think he's hilarious. His voice, and the way he shoots into a monologue as soon as Tom says "you're on the air". Stuff he says is nuts. I'm missing his backstory, but he said something a few weeks back that made me think he and Tom have met. That just makes it funnier to me, thinking that Tom actually knows what this guy looks like and how he really talks. Do you people know who he is?!
Haven't heard this week's show yet, so I hope I amn't standing behind someone who just said something awful or anything.
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I think he's hilarious. His voice, and the way he shoots into a monologue as soon as Tom says "you're on the air". Stuff he says is nuts. I'm missing his backstory, but he said something a few weeks back that made me think he and Tom have met. That just makes it funnier to me, thinking that Tom actually knows what this guy looks like and how he really talks. Do you people know who he is?!
Haven't heard this week's show yet, so I hope I amn't standing behind someone who just said something awful or anything.
These guys know the show more than me
but Capt. Jack was in the studio for the (I think) '05 pledge week
doing shots for pledges. I'm not sure exactly what happend
but from what I heard it turned a 'lil physical.
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i like captain jack :D
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amn't
Nice!
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I'm with Junk.
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i like captain jack :D
You would. Captain Jack, as a person, is an L. I don't care if he gives a Y3K pledge. He makes all of his donations in Pieces of Eight, and let me tell you, those things look phony.
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First they came for Captain Jack, and I said nothing.....
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Yes, Dave. I may not enjoy Captain Jack's comedic (?) stylings, but I don't think he needs to fall under a FOTwa. He ain't worthy of our wrath.
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I'd much rather have a rambling nut that is Capt Jack calling up. Then the trolls we always get during the summer, usually some teens who just discovered the show.
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I actually kind of enjoyed the Goshen Krank Krew.
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Never has there ever been a more bait-able character than Capt. Jack.
I love it when Tom winds him up. Even when it's tense.
" o.K, but what's with all the 'SIR' jazz ? Do you want me to CURTSY ?!?!"
-- cpt. jack
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I actually kind of enjoyed the Goshen Krank Krew.
Me too.
When you're trying to do what you do, and someone comes and takes a dump on all of it just out of spite, and because they've got some demented idea about who you are and how you should be, it just makes you want to forget the whole thing.
I don't particularly care for Capt. Jack. But I figure he gets on the air because he provides some comedy potential. But if Capt. Jack doing his thing gets in the way of Tom doing his, I'm in favor of a ban by all means.
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Look, if nothing else he should be put on Sudden-Death Non-Academic Probation. But the "Death" may or may not be an actual ending-of-life.
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So, you're Mike? THIS WORLD IS SO CONFUSING
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(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/91/explodingheadhh4.jpg)
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wow
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I enjoy Captain Jack's misguided attempts to take tom down a peg.
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This is ridiculous.
Cap'n Jack's call last week was incredible!
YOU FORGOT ABOUT STEVIE BLUE
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Capn Jack is in the intro montage, ferchrissakes!
Tom is going through something, and it's not caller abuse, though he wants it to look that way. Monk negotiations? That's a lot scarier than "L" vs. "W".
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I guess I wasn't so much worried that Captain Jack was going to make Tom quit so much as I just personally hate him. More than anything, his last call stressed me out, and I wanted vengeance. Meh, I'm over it. Nevermind.
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You ban Captain Jack and you get more Blue Willie and Louie the Liverpudlian!
Nobody wants that!
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Louie the Liverpudlian > Capt Jack > Blue Willie
So, on balance, that would be ok.
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I am finally listening to the July 31st show and I am totally and completely over Captain Jack and would happily never hear his BS again as long as I live, that joke is not funny anymore.
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I am finally listening to the July 31st show and I am totally and completely over Captain Jack and would happily never hear his BS again as long as I live, that joke is not funny anymore.
Moz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEmsjyUrslk) agrees.
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[Posted while show in progress]
Capt. Jack expresses his wrath... what fate awaits Tom?... stay tuned...
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So not okay.
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I take back any benign thing I ever said about Captain Jack.
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I take back any benign thing I ever said about Captain Jack.
Me too. It's not the fish, which I could definitely see the "crossing the line" humor in if I could take it as just some over-the-top prank, so much as the tone of his voice in the previous week's rant. That was weird. How freaked out he was that his era of common caller comfort seems to have passed on a bit was frightening. Yeah, there hasn't been much Petey, Sevie Blue, Officer Tom, or Purple Shirt recently, but first of all, as Tom said, what is HE supposed to do about it, call them? Secondly, it's actually been less than a year since the whole "Tall Bike" thing with Purple Shirt, OT just called in a few weeks ago from the patrol car, and Petey does actually pop his head in every now and then, but _______'s maniacal tear about Tom forgetting all the "little people," I think, belies exactly the kind of insecurity that can actually turn to lashing out in frightening ways.
Sorry for the armchair psychoanalysis, and I'm probably making too much of it, but jeez - the guy has spent YEARS doing this tired schitck that's only raison d'etre, as far as I can see, is to be a sarcastic spoiler. In his mind, he sees himself as some integral part of the show, I guess, but... come on, guy...
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How freaked out he was that his era of common caller comfort seems to have passed on a bit was frightening. Yeah, there hasn't been much Petey, Sevie Blue, Officer Tom, or Purple Shirt recently, but first of all, as Tom said, what is HE supposed to do about it, call them? Secondly, it's actually been less than a year since the whole "Tall Bike" thing with Purple Shirt, OT just called in a few weeks ago from the patrol car, and Petey does actually pop his head in every now and then, but _______'s maniacal tear about Tom forgetting all the "little people," I think, belies exactly the kind of insecurity that can actually turn to lashing out in frightening ways.
That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking when I started this thread, but was unable to so succinctly articulate it. There's something really greedy about that mentality, like if you give them an inch they want to take a mile. Ugh, this whole thing is upsetting. For shame.
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I'd argue that not giving Captain Jack one iota of attention from this point on would be the best course of action. Don't mention his name, don't take his calls, nothing. Because acknowledgement of any kind seems to be exactly the thing he wants and will continue to strive for in increasingly psychotic ways.
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So yes: banned and erased from history. I concur, mon frere.
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My mom called me this morning to remind me that she needs a ride from the mechanic this afternoon. She could tell I was a little down and asked why. I told her about the fish debacle, and she knows next to nothing about the Best Show. Still, she simply said that ____ is obviously mentally unwell. And he is. At least he didn't pull a John Hinckley for you, because I don't any of us want President Cheney.
:-[
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Well, all of the humor was in how Tom treated
That Character from a Billy Joel Song anyway. So if Tom really doesn't feel like dealing with him anymore (and who, honestly, has ever been able to fully tell when the Kid is kidding? Maybe not always even him) I say good riddance.
Still, that whole Kid Kansas/That Character from a Billy Joel Song and then Tom sings over them was one of the best moments in the history of the show for me.
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Still, that whole Kid Kansas/That Character from a Billy Joel Song and then Tom sings over them was one of the best moments in the history of the show for me.
That's for sure. i was lamenting that I might have to say goodbye to this archive after last night.
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Guys, listen. There's no way Tom's just gonna up and bail like that. It wasn't so many weeks ago that he and Jon did that AST interview, and wasn't a good chunk of that interview devoted to Tom talking super-sincerely about how the Best Show and his partnership with Jon is the most important to him of all the balls he juggles? Or something to that effect? How's he going to go from that to "peace out!" in a matter of weeks without any further explanation? You really think he's gonna let Capt. Jack win this one? You really think he's gonna go out like that? Over one creepy dude?
Have a little faith, people.
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I do, Christine. Although I do think there may be some time off, which was already planned.
Damn it, I'm speculating. Stop it right now, Sarah!
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My thoughts have been that perhaps any Best Show departure would also somehow be connected to the possibility of a Scharpling & Wurster television project (other than T&E stuff.) Which, while I look forward to the Best Show every week more than anything else, would be very exciting for them and us alike.
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Yeah, you know, I've been kind of afraid that if they managed to make the switch to TV they might inevitably have to put the kibosh on the radio show (and subsequently my will to live), but man, this seems like such a weird & unfun way to go about it.
I hope it's all a big joke that we just don't get yet.
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Yeah, you know, I've been kind of afraid that if they managed to make the switch to TV they might inevitably have to put the kibosh on the radio show (and subsequently my will to live), but man, this seems like such a weird & unfun way to go about it.
I hope it's all a big joke that we just don't get yet.
I think thats what is gonna make it so funny. Tom Can't leave yet the show will go on
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Here's my thought:
He Who Cannot Be Named is an attention whore of the worst order. Last night crossed the line, and his actions are unforgivable. How dare he set out to spoil a thing that so many others treasure, and for a few may provide a bit of levity in an otherwise mundane week.
Because I know that he is most likely reading these posts, I will give you this, you sad, sad man:
A guide to making your own damn podcast (http://www.sweetwater.com/feature/podcasting/howto.php)
you seem like you've got alot to say, so say it, dammit.
love,
KTB
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Has there been any thought that CJs' 'Fish-a-geddon' was intended as an Art Contest entry? The reaction it's getting really blows the others out of the wauder.
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Has there been any thought that CJs' 'Fish-a-geddon' was intended as an Art Contest entry? The reaction it's getting really blows the others out of the wauder.
A++
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I enjoy Captain Jack's misguided attempts to take tom down a peg.
I wholeheartedly take this back.
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Regarding HWSNBN's rant about the Old Guard at the Best Show being forgotten: It IS fun to hear familiar voices from time to time (i.e. Petey, Dave From Knoxville, August last night!) but the lifeblood of the show, or any show for that matter, is seeing it evolve and change and grow, which the Best Show has done. I listened for quite a while before I ever had the nerve to call in. And you know what? I do like calling in. It is fun to be a part of the show. But being a part of the show or having Tom recogize your name or voice shouldn't give you some sense of entitlement, some sense that you are a shareholder in the Show. I think that most of us are comfortable with our roles here: huge fans. Huge fans that are given the opportunity to interact with this program that we enjoy so much. It would have been ever so nice if one particular unnamed moron could have kept this all in perspective.
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Just so people know - this isn't part of some 'boy who cried wolf' thing. There was no planned bit, and this is not a reprise of the Sirius thing. This was dropped on me in the middle of my show, and I dealt with it as it happened.
And to the people who've been emailing me telling me that I can't let him 'win', get a fucking grip. Seriously. It's my life, not yours. I'd love to see you get a dead fucking fish sent to your workplace - a job you're doing FOR FREE by the way - and see if you're ready to 'fight the good fight'. (And I'm not complaining about not getting paid for the show - I'm just saying that if I'm gonna get threatened or scared at my workplace, I'd at like to weigh the money versus terror balance).
The show has been as important to me as it has been to you guys. So I'm trying to figure stuff out. I'll let you all know what's what as soon as possible. I'm not trying to milk this for dramatic purposes or anything - it's really busy time at work, and there's other personal and family stuff that requires my attention, so this is coming down at a pretty bad time. Maybe I'll take an extended leave from the show, maybe I'll pack it up for longer, maybe I'll be back next week. Not sure right now.
Thanks -
Tom.
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Have the police been contacted? If not, they really must.
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Good lord, really? If so, boy, it's a good thing I live where I do; I'm far too unparanoid to survive in the big, bad world out there.
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Tom,
Sorry for doubting you, even a little bit. I understand how you'd be freaked out by getting a dead fish sent to your place of work. You don't want this to turn into some Eric Bogosian fillum.
Seriously, I second Dave from Knoxville's suggestion on the police. Even if Captain J__k thought this was just a funny joke, the presence of the policia will help convince him that others didn't find it funny. I think you probably even know a policeman through your work on the show.
Of course, as Southerners, Dave and I (and your Southernized Philly-area-native drummer friend) could each pull out one of our mandatorily extensive collections of firearms and come guard the building each Tuesday night.
Wishing you the best.
buffcoat
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Tom, as someone who works in international banking, I've seen my fair share of suspicious packages. NOT COOL.
I hope you do decide to come back. I want to call in and talk about parents who put leashes AND motherloving harnesses on their children at malls and other sorts of public areas.
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As a person with a baby on the way I have to say I am pro leash.
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Babies are not dogs! Dogs are smarter than babies.
Oh. Okay. I see your point.
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Where do you stand on muzzles, Richard?
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Where do you stand on muzzles, Richard?
I guess if you have to muzzle, one of these wouldn't be that bad:
http://doginthecity.net/product_dealers.html
I'm pro-cone-around-the-head for kids.
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Do you mean pacifiers, TL?
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I recently got one of these
(http://www.jefferspet.com/ssc/assets/product_images/Pets/Halti_headcollar.jpg)
for Boxer. Not a muzzle, but muzzley in appearance. I feel like Spike when I put it on. Yuck.
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Do you mean pacifiers, TL?
No, I mean one of these:
(http://www.diaryofawebsite.com/photos/conehead.jpg)
...but for a human baby.
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This might be more comfortable--and clownlike:
(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/21T42P642DL._AA132_.jpg)
Or there's this, if you're looking for a more tortoiselike effect:
(http://www.agri-pro.com/Cat&Dogs&Birds.jpg)
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LULZ!
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You don't want this to turn into some Eric Bogosian fillum.
Sigh... god damn it. (check your PM, Petey)
Tom, I for one would totally understand if you packed it in. I wouldn't eat a roll of paper towels, I'd just listen to the archive more and watch your tv show.
You've given us so much for so little; it's grossly unfair that you have to go through this shit when all you've wanted to do was entertain people.
Whatever you and Jon decide, thank you so much for your contribution to our culture. It has been, and will surely continue to be, a gigantic one.
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Damn it, I had hoped that, with the help of TL, I'd successfully detoured this thread.
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Desperate times call for desperate measures:
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/hallo-sir-rent-iz-due.jpg)
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Damn it, I had hoped that, with the help of TL, I'd successfully detoured this thread.
Oh. My bad.
(http://www.leatherbrothers.com/images/N907.CatMuzzle.jpg)
Carry on.
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Did I do something wrong?
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Did I do something wrong?
No.
You just reminded me of when I first posted those Bogosian videos and someone pointed out the Rockets Redglare "assasinate the DJ" connection. I realized at the time I might have unintentionally given Tom the heebie-jeebies. When I posted them, to me they were 95% funny and 5% creepy. Now, re-watching them, they feel seriously tainted by recent events, kind of like that The Coup album. So I'm yanking those from the contest, too, out of respect to Tom and because they're no longer funny to me. But I'm only angry at HWMNBN. I can see how it read like I was yelling at you, buffcoat, but I wasn't. Sorry.
I'm taking this thread title seriously and have revised my personal FOT history accordingly. I hope others will do the same.
Anyhoo, can someone make a lolcat caption for the muzzled cat photo I found? I can't think of a good one.
"Meow, I'm a POW?"
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We've got to all do our part.
JP
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We've got to all do our part.
I also de-rezzed him from the Best Show theme. It's as if he never existed.
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Just so people know - this isn't part of some 'boy who cried wolf' thing. There was no planned bit, and this is not a reprise of the Sirius thing. This was dropped on me in the middle of my show, and I dealt with it as it happened.
Tom.
I appreciate that Tom posted this - I didn't really realize this was as serious as it was. I have since thought about the fact though that tom basically is sort of out there and connects with the public in a completely unique way - a way that unfortunately has uniquely undesirable results.
I was surprised that this is as serious as it is, but I'll be sticking by "the Kid" no matter what.
JP
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I've avoided this thread for days specifically to avoid reading what i just read. (tom's post). i didn't really hit home that this could be the end of the best show until right now.
shit.
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Okay, in all seriousness, does anyone on the inside track have any idea if I should be by my radio tomorrow night? Or should I be prepared to entertain myself?
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You should be by your computer so you can play acrowars (http://www.acrowars.com/FOT) with your fellow FOT!
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Where do you stand on muzzles, Richard?
I favor their general usage with humans, not with dogs.
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I was thinking of the little Richard or Richarda to come.
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Thanks for the invite, Sarah. If all else fails, acrowars it is!
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I was thinking of the little Richard or Richarda to come.
Of course not, however I suspect my parents considered it for me as a child.
I went to my first official baby class today. Wow.