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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: John Junk on November 12, 2007, 03:35:00 PM
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Specifically, w/r/t rotisserie chicken. I'm at the ten-day mark right now. Dare I partake? I am ascared.
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I probably would, but I'm adventurous when it comes to that stuff. If it smells ok it's probably alright.
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under 7 days for cooked meat.
please, for the love of god....
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While it's true that if it smells all right, it's probably okay to eat, if it were mine, I'd probably strip the meat off the bones and give it to the beasts.
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It doesn't have a funk to it? I'd cut it up into little pieces and make some sort of stew/soup.
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Okay, here's my update. I ate a wing and it was okay, but pretty bland and on the gross side. I inspected the breasts (insert joke), and found them to be developing a tough exterior that is very subtly approaching a greenish hue. Undoubtedly, this would be fine for a dog to eat, but I am a man, not a beast, so I must abstain.
Thank you all for your advice and support on this matter.
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Yeah, food goes tasteless just before it is noticeably rotten. I applaud the wisdom of your decision.
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Go vegan!
Or don't. It's up to you.
I'd prefer that you would though. If you want that is.
Nevermind.
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Nevermind.
Done and done.
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Why do you guys hate your dogs so much? I swear, my cats eat better than I do. They had turducken cat food for dinner tonight. Check out the ingredients:
Turkey, Chicken, Chicken Broth, Duck, Fresh Sweet Potatoes, Fresh Carrots, Fresh Snow Peas, Fresh Golden Delicious Apples, Potato Starch-Modified, Dried Cranberry, Olive Oil, Flax Seed Oil (For Omega -3), Cassia Gum, Carrageenan, Potassium Chloride, Tricalcium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Salt, Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols, Vitamin E Supplement, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Copper Amino Acid Complex,d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Niacin, Lecithin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Cobalt Glucoheptanate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite
Seriously, you guys. I don't know if my cats appreciate the fresh snow peas, and I don't know why they need folic acid, but damn it, they deserve it. Tomorrow, they're having California roll cat food.
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no wonder your calico has a princess complex.
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Can you imagine 200 years ago? Just salt-tack and maggoty biscuits.
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Seriously, you guys. I don't know if my cats appreciate the fresh snow peas, and I don't know why they need folic acid, but damn it, they deserve it. Tomorrow, they're having $25,000 chocolate sundaes.
::)
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Three to four days tops for optimum freshness if it isn't loaded with preservatives. Your name should by now be John 24-Hour-Hell-Out-Both-Ends-Junket. Considering it's meat (actually, same goes for anything high in protein, like beans, chick peas, etc.), unless it was frozen, you were running a slippery gauntlet into lethal illness land. You, my friend, are lucky to be alive (I'm actually afraid to look at the date stamp on your most recent post...). The only thing that may have saved you is your steady diet of greasy funk.
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Hey, Laurie, in the wild, dogs will often eat half-rotted meat that's left over from the big-time predators' kills. Old meat is easier for them to digest. So meat off a ten-day-old chicken would be quite a treat. Call that hate?
Actually, I'm just all defensive because I've been trying so hard to do right by my beasts for the last six months or so. Every two weeks I remove the meat from chicken quarters, carefully chunk it, grind the bones along with heart, liver, and skin, and then mix everything with organic egg yolks to make my cat food. My dogs get eggs and raw meat, for now, on an extremely expensive and wholesome kibble but soon exclusively. As much as I can afford it, I buy my raw materials from the local organic farm. Hell, my animals' food is tastier and healthier than my own.
And in any case cats really don't need anything but protein, so all those veggies are just a fancy form of roughage. So there.
Yes, I am somewhat loony. Why?
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I know, it's kind of silly. I like shopping at the pet food store I do, though. During the big China Is Poisoning Our Pets Debacle, they posted a sign on their door indicating that none of products were contaminated or recalled. It's worth paying an extra $1.25 per can if I know I'm taking care of my cats. Also, the first ingredient in their dry food is organic free range chicken. In pretty much every other dry food you'll find in a Petco or equivalent, the first ingredient is corn meal. Strangely enough, the fancy dry food is pretty much the same price as that Science Diet crap.
My cats definitely had more energy and were more playful after I made the switch from Science Diet to Merrick and... I forget the name of the dry food, but it comes in a purple bag. Anyway, they love it, and they're happier cats. They'd probably be happier if I had the resources and time to make homemade cat food for them like Sarah does for her cats and dogs, but I don't. So they get to eat the Whole Foods equivalent of cat food.
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This thread saved me last night.
I had a piece of salmon with dill I bought last Sunday at Target. It smelled kinda funny, but I thought that was the dill. So I put it in the Ziploc Steam bag to cook it (I highly, highly recommend Ziploc Steam bags for you bachelors and bachelorettes). It still smelled funny. I remembered this thread and I threw it out.
I'm pretty sure I would be dead right now if I hadn't. Best Show wins again.
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“Fish and guests in three days are stale.” Although in a chowder fish will last longer. Guests, no.
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I know, it's kind of silly. I like shopping at the pet food store I do, though. During the big China Is Poisoning Our Pets Debacle, they posted a sign on their door indicating that none of products were contaminated or recalled. It's worth paying an extra $1.25 per can if I know I'm taking care of my cats. Also, the first ingredient in their dry food is organic free range chicken. In pretty much every other dry food you'll find in a Petco or equivalent, the first ingredient is corn meal. Strangely enough, the fancy dry food is pretty much the same price as that Science Diet crap.
My cats definitely had more energy and were more playful after I made the switch from Science Diet to Merrick and... I forget the name of the dry food, but it comes in a purple bag. Anyway, they love it, and they're happier cats. They'd probably be happier if I had the resources and time to make homemade cat food for them like Sarah does for her cats and dogs, but I don't. So they get to eat the Whole Foods equivalent of cat food.
nah, I give my cats dry food that's not that expensive where the first ingredient is Turkey. But it's also got turkey meal in it and other not-so-good stuff... sometimes i buy this mix that you mix with raw or cooked ground turkey and it makes it into tasty kitty food. They kinda like that. But my Nico kitty really likes the occasional shred (single shred because I know it's bad for them) of cheddar. She begs me for it and I oblige.
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we have one cat who is like a garbage dumpster. she was a stray and she will put away anything you're willing to offer.
our other cat will eat meat, but only in the form of canned cat food. she turns her nose up at any real meat, but loves potatoes, celery, popcorn, bread, basically anything but meat. unless you count crickets as meat. she also loves crickets.
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we have one cat who is like a garbage dumpster. she was a stray and she will put away anything you're willing to offer.
That's how Nico is. She even enjoys the occasional Wheat Thin.
Sasha occasionally tries to eat her own tufts of hair that gather on the carpet. She also has an affinity to rubber things that can choke and kill her.
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we have to be extremely carfeul with Sprinkles and rubber bands. She loves to play with them so much, but she also loves to eat them. I've taken to bringing home these huge, wide rubber bands that we use to roll up blueprints.
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Yeah, I will occasionally find rubber band fragments in the litter box. Fun!
Both of my cats are rescues and have become pickier eaters by the day, though I found out by accident that one of them actually likes matzo. I've been thinking of having him bar mitzvahed.
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Oh yeah my cats are totally jewish. Don't ask me how I'm sure of this... a mother just knows.
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Our male cat tends to develop crystals in his bladder due to the ash content of most commercially available cat foods, so we have to buy this special (read: expensive) food from the vet's office for him. And since all four of them eat together, they all get it. It's kind of a bite, but them seem to enjoy it and they do all have very luxurious coats as a result.
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Sparkles will eat anything, but we had her on adult hairball formula because of hairball issues
Then we got Sprinkles and had to put down kitten food. Sparkles ate the kitten food, Sprinkles ate the hairball food. Sparkles put on about 4 pounds (she started out at about 7) and Sprinkles grew slowly (she was the runt of the litter anyway)
Now my wife puts out hairball formula and some cheap shit. She always told me the expensive stuff was being eaten by Sparkles (my cat) and the cheap stuff was being eaten by Sprinkles (her cat)
I've caught Sprinkles eating the expensive stuff quite a few times recently.
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Oh yeah my cats are totally jewish. Don't ask me how I'm sure of this... a mother just knows.
I mentioned this bar mitzvah idea to my wife, who is a shiksa, and she's really into it. I could just imagine the little critters with yarmulkes and tallises - possibly the only thing even more uncomfortable-looking than an actual 13-year-old boy in the same getup.
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Oh yeah my cats are totally jewish. Don't ask me how I'm sure of this... a mother just knows.
I mentioned this bar mitzvah idea to my wife, who is a shiksa, and she's really into it. I could just imagine the little critters with yarmulkes and tallises - possibly the only thing even more uncomfortable-looking than an actual 13-year-old boy in the same getup.
When they dress like that and can read from the Torah, then a gift I'll bring.
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It still scares me that Mr. Junk hasn't replied since my last post. You okay, John?
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I'm still here. Nothing happened with the wing, but I'm sure I would've been in trouble had I eaten any more of it. I just didn't want to be wasteful because the whole point of buying that chicken that I promptly forgot about was to eat it throughout the first 3-4 day period and save a little money on lunch. There's this mini-fridge in my office that I use for NOTHING and I wanted to employ it, but I'm just not in the habit of acknowledging that it exists. It just sits there, emitting greenhouse gases all day (insert "gases" joke regarding old chicken).