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Title: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on January 06, 2008, 12:17:01 PM
I have smoked for 12 years, around 10-15 cigarettes a day. I'm not the sort of person who needs one as soon as I wake up in the morning, but I tend to smoke a lot more at night and in both social and stressful situations.

I'm going to try the Nicorette gum, as the patch scares me a little and I'm not sure I need it. I'm starting tomorrow morning. My boyfriend is quitting at the same time but he's using the patch. He's got a 1.5-2 pack a day habit. (That's right. You heard me...)

Any words from anyone who has quit before would be helpful.

 :-\
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Jason on January 06, 2008, 12:40:30 PM
I gave up about 10 years ago. I used this -

http://www.mypharmacy.co.uk/medicines/medicines/n/nicorette/nicorette_inhalator_starter_pack.htm

which helped a lot but I credit my success with just making an absolute decision to stop. I had said so many times that I was going to stop, it was always my last pack or my last weekend, and in the back of mind I knew it wasn't going to happen. Its easy to fall into a trap where you reward yourself for not smoking by just having one and before you know it you're somking again.  In the end I stopped mid-pack.

So that's my real advice, you have to make an absolute firm decision in your mind.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Martin on January 06, 2008, 12:41:11 PM
I'm not a smoker, but I can start whenever I want.

(Good luck!)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on January 06, 2008, 01:51:27 PM
Thanks guys.

I got the lozenges instead of the gum.

I can do this...
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 06, 2008, 02:00:22 PM
Good luck, Erika!  I was up to about 25 American Spirits (a lot stronger than the Camel Lights I had switched from) a day when I quit in 1999.  I used the patch, but my success at quitting puts me in the statistical minority - a year or two later I met a public health grad student who was doing a study on it and told me that most people just rip the thing off and start smoking.  For me, it was a kind of aversion therapy - when I was around secondhand smoke I would get physically ill, so I had to change my habits.  I didn't resume drinking in earnest until Bloomberg banned smoking in bars, and I've never taken up smoking pot again, which has probably helped my relative career success.  My big test was last winter in Ljubljana, where everyone chainsmoked everywhere, and I wasn't tempted in the least. 

But anyway, Jason is right, if you want to quit you will.  I was the most compulsive smoker ever, and now I'm still compulsive but in other ways, including this board.  A couple of other details:

-I gained almost 80 pounds after I quit, but lost most of it (I'm still not as skinny as I was an never will be).  This isn't inevitable - I just developed a sweet tooth and indulged like crazy, telling myself that I deserved it because I was quitting smoking - this for like 5 years.  I'm more careful now.

-I had excellent, long, cinematic dreams while on the patch.

-I did the step-down thing and was a total dick every time I stepped down the nicotine dosage.  My temperament is pretty much what it appears to be on the boards (aside from the occasional stupid sidewalk rage freakout that anyone in the NY metro area is going to have now and then), and I almost got into a fistfight over nothing at a Beck concert at Radio City Music Hall.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on January 06, 2008, 02:10:37 PM
I wish you all luck, erika.  Maybe you and especially your boyfriend will find some encouragement in me: I was up to two packs plus a day, sober--more, with alcohol (I could easily go through two packs during a night out)--and it's been three months for me (cold turkey). 

I have had relapses, though:  whenever I go to the bar, I smoke (four times so far).  If I could limit myself to indulging only when I'm boozing, I'd never stop (for that matter, if I smoked only ten cigarettes a day, I'd never stop).  But I know I can't trust myself, so I have to work harder to resist temptation when I'm out.  Still, my disinclination to leave my house means I'm barely smoking now, which is pretty damn good.

In other words, there is hope!  (Of course, just so I don't seem too Pollyannaish, I also quit in 1989 and started up again eleven years later.)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Gagneaux on January 06, 2008, 02:23:49 PM
First of all: Good Luck No-Smoking-Erika!

I quit a few times for very short periods using patches and/or gums. What worked in the long run (4 years now) for me was going cold turkey and then constantly reminding myself that there's no reason to smoke. I analysed it using the purest logic I could. "I'm having a craving...if I live with it,  I may never have a craving again...if I give in and smoke, I'm just going to have another intense craving. After two weeks I had almost forgotten that I was a smoker at all.

Also, it's like Hopkins says: "What one man can do, another can do!"
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 06, 2008, 02:34:36 PM
Erika,

You absolutely CAN DO this. You're a SUPERCALLER, baby! You can do ANYTHING.

When I was 16, I announced to my parents that if they did not both stop smoking, I would move out. They sort of laughed me off, then one day they came home from work, and my room was cleared out; I stored all of my stuff at my sister's house, and I went from friend's house to friend's house, sleeping here a night, there 2 nights. After 3 weeks of this, they had both quit, and I moved back in.

Hey Erika, put your boyfriend on the line.

dfk
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: congolia on January 06, 2008, 02:38:29 PM
First and foremost, good for you and your boyfriend.  Quitting together will be frustrating at first, but ultimately, it’s the best way to do it.

I quit a 10-year, pack-a-day (American Spirits) habit over a slow, two-year period.  I tried the patch at first, but it would make my heart race.

I cannot recommend the weaning approach either.  I was down to two cigarettes a day before I quit and my whole day began to revolve around having those two cigarettes.  If something interfered with those smokes --- I became an instant asshole.  I finally quit for good when I realized that my two a day was sneaking back up to four or five a day, after my wife and I bought a house (hooray stress!)

The only suggestion that anyone ever made to me that helped was to take lots of slow, deep breaths when you get that the little “itch” in your lungs (well, that’s what it felt like to me) telling you that you “need” to smoke. 

I also felt the need to keep a few cigarettes around in a hiding place.  I tended to stress about running out when I was a smoker and just knowing that they were available if I really needed them,  helped me stay calm ( I only cheated once, and it tasted so bad).

The rest, as Jason and Jason G said, is willpower.  You guys can do this.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Forrest on January 06, 2008, 03:11:01 PM
Who knew there were so many ex-smokers in the FOT? ???
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on January 06, 2008, 03:30:49 PM
There may well be a lot more smokers and former smokers in your daily life than you realize, Forrest.  People are made to feel such shame for smoking these days, I have no doubt many surreptitiously indulge their habit on the sly and then brush, gargle, shower, and put on fresh clothes before proceeding to pass in the nonsmoking world.  My sister--an ex-doctor--has been doing that for years.

Funnily enough, if I lived someplace where people were violently antismoking, I'd be far more likely to hold on to the habit, out of sheer cussedness.  Thank god I live in Lubec where people are tolerant, so I don't fell obliged to smoke just to spite the self-righteous.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Josh on January 06, 2008, 05:54:13 PM
GOOD LUCK ERIKA
STAY STRONG SUPERCALLER
(and Greg too)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 06, 2008, 07:21:50 PM
There may well be a lot more smokers Christians and former smokers Christians in your daily life than you realize, Forrest.  People are made to feel such shame for smoking being Christian these days, I have no doubt many surreptitiously indulge their habit on the sly and then brush smoke, gargle drink, shower blaspheme, and put on fresh clothes have indiscrminant sex with strangers before proceeding to pass in the nonsmoking non-Christian world. 

Fixed!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Tom Scharpling on January 06, 2008, 10:37:25 PM
Erika -

This might sound rough, but your SuperCaller status is contingent upon you sticking with this.

You are free to call every week and have people cheer you on. We're all behind you and we want you to stop smoking! You know it's the right thing to do, so do it for 2008!

Tom.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on January 06, 2008, 11:08:04 PM
I will do it.

Thanks everybody!

:)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Matt on January 06, 2008, 11:08:36 PM
Erika -

This might sound rough, but your SuperCaller status is contingent upon you sticking with this.

You are free to call every week and have people cheer you on. We're all behind you and we want you to stop smoking! You know it's the right thing to do, so do it for 2008!

Tom.

You know what they call that? Tough love.

It seems like just yesterday, my older brother and I guilted our dad into quitting smoking. For some reason, he insisted on keeping a carton of Newports in the freezer - "Just in case." That was about thirteen years ago and he hasn't touched a cigarette since, so it can be done!

Good luck, Erika!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Dorvid Barnas on January 06, 2008, 11:26:02 PM
When it works, tell others you used the Tom Method.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: John Junk on January 07, 2008, 01:18:40 AM
I was never a huge smoker, at most I smoked 1/2 a pack a day for about 4 years, but I quit for a few years and what worked was just deciding to one day.  Like, not making a big deal about it, and not doing it for anyone else but myself.  I was in a situation where my girlfriend was living 300 miles away, I was living with my parents, and no one I knew smoked.  It just seemed dumb.  I started again a little bit in the last 2 years and I kick myself.   I've had one already this year, but maybe I could make it a one-cigarette year.  Worth a shot. 
Just think about that awesome full lung capacity.  Seriously!

And, finally, I'd temporarily avoid watching French New Wave film and anything featuring late-60's, early-70's Rolling Stones.



(Edited for brevity's sake on 1-06-07)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Forrest on January 07, 2008, 01:27:10 AM
  I've had one already this year, but maybe I could make it a one-cigarette year.  Worth a shot.

One? This year? If that's true, you're probably not really a smoker. Walk away while you can.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: bookem_dan-o on January 07, 2008, 02:33:39 AM
I managed to quit smoking by literally making myself sick from them. One day, I took a whole pack of B&H menthols, and actually smoked them all at once, like that one guy from the picture in the Guinness Book of World Records. I was actually trying to be Mr. Funny in front of my friends by imitating that guy, but i got so sick from that stupid stunt that I could never stomach the thought of smoking ever again....and almost 20 years later, I haven't.

Not necessarily suggesting this as a way to quit smoking, of course. But it worked for me.

Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on January 07, 2008, 08:51:52 AM
And, finally, I'd temporarily avoid watching French New Wave film and anything featuring late-60's, early-70's Rolling Stones.

Also the AMC show Mad Men.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: folksnake on January 07, 2008, 09:16:04 AM
And, finally, I'd temporarily avoid watching French New Wave film and anything featuring late-60's, early-70's Rolling Stones.

Also the AMC show Mad Men.

...or anything with Serge Gainsbourg in it.

Great to hear this, Erika! Out here in Western Maryland, you're our favorite caller.

I smoked for 25 years, finally quit at age 40 (had the last one the night before my birthday) and have been happy about it ever since. Nicorette helped some, as did working in a public library  :) I figure as long as I continue to work there, I'm good.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: buffcoat on January 07, 2008, 09:31:57 AM
My friend's dad had tried about 20 things and Chantix finally did it for him.  I've since heard some weird stuff about it, but he swears by it.  He had a 40+ year habit.

I wish I could quit sodie sometimes.  I quit drinking it for about a year, but I love it so.  I only drink it at mealtime but then I'll refill on the way out and nurse it for another hour.

I know that as vices go, it's not a huge one, but it's 200-400 absolutely empty calories a day, plus a lot of high fructose corn syrup.  And I heard Mountain Dew does bad things to a fella's equipment, although, that's, you know, not true.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Josh on January 07, 2008, 11:19:30 AM
Good call Buffcoat. I've tried dropping colas and iced tea off and on, and I definitely consume less than a couple years ago, but boy oh boy doesn't a Coke taste so good after a month without?
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: John Junk on January 07, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
  I've had one already this year, but maybe I could make it a one-cigarette year.  Worth a shot.

One? This year? If that's true, you're probably not really a smoker. Walk away while you can.


You think you're better than me?
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on January 07, 2008, 03:01:13 PM
I tried a single Lozenge for about 10 seconds. They taste like bad bad burny chemicals. So I'm gonna skip those. If I do anything, I'll do a light version of the patch.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 07, 2008, 03:05:23 PM
There might be a connection between this:

I managed to quit smoking by literally making myself sick from them. One day, I took a whole pack of B&H menthols, and actually smoked them all at once, like that one guy from the picture in the Guinness Book of World Records. I was actually trying to be Mr. Funny in front of my friends by imitating that guy, but i got so sick from that stupid stunt that I could never stomach the thought of smoking ever again....and almost 20 years later, I haven't.

And this:

And, finally, I'd temporarily avoid watching French New Wave film and anything featuring late-60's, early-70's Rolling Stones.

Also the AMC show Mad Men.

...or anything with Serge Gainsbourg in it.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Rainer on January 07, 2008, 06:49:36 PM
Erika,

I stopped smoking about three years ago (after puffing off and on since college).  My first son probably had a lot to do with it.  We were watching an American Cancer Society TV PSA on the internet.  I think it must have been part of some ad agency's demo reel.  People running into city traffic only to be creamed (via cgi) by cars, trains and buses. "One out of every three who start will die."

After the PSA ended, B turned to me and said, "Daddy, do you smoke?"  To which I replied, "not any more." 

And I said those three words IN BALTIMORE. 

Good for you!  You will succeed, without a doubt.

--Rainer




Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Gilly on January 07, 2008, 06:53:25 PM
"One out of every three who start will die."

Not to rain on the parade but three out of every three who start will die. Just probably not as peacefully as a non-smoker.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: folksnake on January 07, 2008, 08:00:01 PM
Not to rain on the parade but three out of every three who start will die. Just probably not as peacefully as a non-smoker.
I heard it was four. Weird.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Fido on January 07, 2008, 08:38:52 PM
Erika,

You absolutely CAN DO this. You're a SUPERCALLER, baby! You can do ANYTHING.

When I was 16, I announced to my parents that if they did not both stop smoking, I would move out. They sort of laughed me off, then one day they came home from work, and my room was cleared out; I stored all of my stuff at my sister's house, and I went from friend's house to friend's house, sleeping here a night, there 2 nights. After 3 weeks of this, they had both quit, and I moved back in.

Hey Erika, put your boyfriend on the line.

dfk

Wow, very impressive DFK.  Supercaller!

Seriously, Erika, keep up the fight!!   Don't forget to splash cold water on your face whenever necessary.  We're behind you all the way. 
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Fido on January 07, 2008, 08:39:20 PM
Oh, yeah, what one person can do, another can do.  Forgot to say that.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on January 08, 2008, 06:55:39 PM
I report that I had a relapse last night, as usual prompted by demon alcohol.  On the bright side, I feel quite sick because of it today--and, yes, I do know it's the cigarettes that are responsible--and my throat is killing me.  When I quit in 1989, what happened was that each time I backslid, I'd get sicker because of it, till finally I just couldn't touch the things anymore.  Though I would prefer never to smoke a cigarette again, I would settle happily for a repeat of this pattern this time around.  Since the circumstances that caused me to start smoking again after suffering no inclination to touch the things for eleven years are unlikely to recur, I could even hope that this quitting will be my last.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on January 09, 2008, 09:20:01 AM
Hang in there Sarah!

On Monday night, after not having any form of nicotine all day, I got off work and did my regular errands. Once I got back to my apartment, I entered that time of day when I would sometimes have my first cig of the day. (I wasn't much of a smoker at work) I was also hungry and it's my most sleepy part of the day... all these things combined equalled a nic fit that came on like a tidal wave and made me act like a complete bitch for about an hour. It was like PMS x5.

Needless to say, I slapped a patch on my arm and I haven't taken one off.

But my endurance was tested last night at the deli counter when I had to stand behind a lady ordering all of her deli "paper thin" and requiring that the man serving her give her a sample of everything behind the counter. She only bought one thing, but lectured the man the entire time he was putting it together about how many pieces of tissue paper she wanted between each slice of her fucking cheese. I swear it took her 20 minutes to order some pepperjack.

Usually, at that time of day, I would have been flipping out about this. (It's a pet peeve cuz I worked in lots of deli's and bagel shops) But I didn't even feel the need for a cigarette -- nor did I want to rip the woman's head off with my teeth!

Yay patch!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Andy on January 09, 2008, 09:45:03 AM
you guys should just smoke a cigar to take the edge off.  give your lungs a break and let your jaw do some of the heavy lifting for once (cancer-wise, that is)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on January 09, 2008, 10:36:03 AM
I was thinking of switching to a Hitchcock-style pipe.*

I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes popular with the bearded hipster boys sometime in the near future. A pipe revival.


*Not really.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Omar on January 09, 2008, 10:52:14 AM
I was thinking of switching to a Hitchcock-style pipe.*

I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes popular with the bearded hipster boys sometime in the near future. A pipe revival.


RTC tried to jumpstart the revival last March, and it gained no traction:

(http://www.emusic.com/proxy/20070322-151439/eMusic/content/feature/spotlight/s289/s289_200703/emu:subjectImage.jpg)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 09, 2008, 11:06:34 AM
I was thinking of switching to a Hitchcock-style pipe.*

I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes popular with the bearded hipster boys sometime in the near future. A pipe revival.


*Not really.

My roommate and I did this in college.  Like many of our affectations, it was fucking ridiculous, but at least it was original.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: John Junk on January 09, 2008, 01:27:38 PM
(http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/123118/2078056/2092083/2093019/2093109/2093110/LVRS_CNTRY.jpg)
Beards and pipes are hot.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Gilly on January 09, 2008, 05:41:27 PM
I had a pipe in college. It tastes really good and the smell isn't bad either. Nobody really cared if I lit it up in their living room at parties.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Beth on January 10, 2008, 11:39:43 PM
When I was living in NYC, and when in college, I knew a bunch of hipster people who smoked pipes. I think the revival happened.

I have no idea where those people are now, or if they're still smoking pipes. Maybe a second revival could happen. A new-wave of pipe fancy.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 11, 2008, 07:18:21 AM
Nobody really cared if I lit it up in their living room at parties.

That's what I tell myself about farting in business meetings! It's fun to believe things.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Martin on January 11, 2008, 11:46:48 AM
Trying to stop my nephew Hector from smoking the pipe.

(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4524/piperesizett1.jpg)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on January 11, 2008, 11:49:11 AM
It's fun to believe that I will feel better in a few weeks time.

Kids, don't smoke. Because in addition to the obvious health risks, quitting makes you want to kill people. Or cry. Or eat loads of fried food and chocolate.

Or all of the above.

 >:(
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on January 11, 2008, 11:55:09 AM
Ah, poor erika.  I hope you and Greg survive this ordeal.

It really will get better.  And, yeah, I know I'm not the best example, but I really can assure you of this. 
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: John Junk on January 11, 2008, 12:01:35 PM
If I were you I would totally allow myself to eat more shitty food than usual as I made the conversion.  Maybe you'll gain a little weight, but those calories aren't empty, they're anti-lung-cancer calories.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on February 03, 2008, 06:09:41 PM
ONE MONTH!

(http://toothpastefordinner.com/gallery-quitter-500.gif)
...and also please check out this website (http://www.nataliedee.com/) because I think it is super funny and also hilarious. At the same time!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: masterofsparks on February 03, 2008, 07:23:14 PM
Congratulations Erika!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: God Stewart on February 03, 2008, 11:28:58 PM
If you like that site check out this one (http://www.explodingdog.com/). It's pretty big site.

Erika, as always you set the example of how it should be done. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Rainer on February 03, 2008, 11:41:56 PM
Quote
ONE MONTH!

Good for you!  It's all psychological now. Easy-peasy.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on February 04, 2008, 12:02:50 AM
It's all psychological now. Easy-peasy.

hahaha oh yeah it's soooo easy lemme tell ya ;)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on February 25, 2008, 01:07:23 PM
Needless to say I fell off the wagon big time this weekend and smoked a bunch of cigarettes. I'm not going to go into the circumstances surrounding it, but today I feel like I'm starting over again. I'm going back on the patch as soon as I can leave work to go get some. Right now I just have the physical and mental consequences of my weekend slip-up to deal with. I'm having the horrible nic-fits, heartburn/withdrawal, the works.

I didn't buy cigs I just bummed too many this weekend... Like I said on the air last week I'd had 3 over the course of 6 weeks. But this was different. This wasn't just one cigarette at a party. Anyone who tells you you can smoke more than the occasional single cigarette is full of shit. Your body and mind just don't want to allow that to happen.

I really hope this doesn't affect my supercaller status but in the interest of full disclosure and not be a hypocrite or a liar, I thought I'd tell everyone.

This quitting thing is enough to give anyone an earth-shattering emotional breakdown.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: ericluxury on February 25, 2008, 01:29:47 PM
I feel your pain. As someone who has been in the process of quitting since June of 07, I know that its not the initial part that is hard, its staying strong. The problem is having one on a drunken night and then nothing for a few weeks seems fine but its just creating small cracks in the dam.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 25, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Erika,

I love your honesty. I support your efforts. In the interest of being similarly forth-coming, let me get in a parallel lane and make an announcement.

I am a big fat guy. Always have been. Sedentary? I perfected it.

But now I find myself at the end of a month during which I have spent 18 sessions on a treadmill, walking just short of 2 miles per session. I am not going fast, although I have gotten what was initially 24 minute miles down to 19. My goal is 16; that may be months away. I don't care how long it takes, I am sticking to it. I have lost 8 pounds.

You know what? I may miss a week when life gets hectic, but I will get back on it. And Erika will have smokeless days, and then smokeless weeks, and months, and ultimately, a lifetime. Me and Erika are getting to a healthier place, and as long as we keep putting one foot in front of another, we will get there.

Small steps are good enough, if you keep nem feet moving.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on February 25, 2008, 05:06:05 PM
Dave you are a classy, kind guy. Thank you for your message! I appreciate it!

I'm going to go score some Nicotine patches so I can go back to not going through nicotine withdrawal and having vivid nightmares every single night. It's gonna be great.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Gilly on February 25, 2008, 09:17:11 PM

Might I recommend you try The Book. (http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Way-Stop-Smoking-Nonsmokers/dp/1402718616)


(http://www.transformationaltools.com/files/1554537/uploaded/The-Secret.jpg)

Just kidding. You'll make it through Erika!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: John Junk on February 25, 2008, 10:05:58 PM
Have I mentioned that my girlfriend is totally into The Secret, and will actually watch it for inspiration sometimes?  Please do not hold this against her.  She's an amazing and wonderful person.

Also, have I mentioned I've totally bought like 5 packs of cigarettes since this thread started, and thrown out half a pack in guilt an disgust about 3 times, and bummed probably 25 cigarettes since this thread started?

Stay strong, Erika.  You'll be okay.  It's a speedbump.   8)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Beth on February 25, 2008, 10:18:00 PM
You can do it Erika!


(http://www.ovao.lt/repository/images/image_87_raw.jpg)


Also....what is "The Secret"?
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Gilly on February 25, 2008, 10:21:48 PM
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The Secret, which is described as a self-help film, [2][3] uses a documentary format to present the non-scientific "Law of Attraction." This law is the "secret" that, according to the tagline, "has traveled through centuries to reach you." The film features short dramatized experiences and interviews of a team of "personal transformation specialists", "spiritual messengers", "feng shui masters", and moneymaking "experts".[4] As put forth in the film, the "Law of Attraction" principle posits that people's feelings and thoughts attract real events in the world into their lives; from the workings of the cosmos to interactions among individuals in their physical, emotional, and professional affairs. The film also suggests that there has been a strong tendency by those in positions of power to keep this central principle hidden from the public. The previews or "clues" to the film, show men who "uncovered the Secret...".

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It was made into a book made popular by Oprah.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: folksnake on February 25, 2008, 10:44:39 PM
I work on a bookmobile at our public library, and I can say that I've had far too much contact with The Secret.  We get close to our patrons, both physically (because of the small space) and personally. I love them all, mostly, and they tell us all about their lives, including what happens when they read stuff like The Secret. Like this:

Patron: "Well, me and my friend Jasmine where driving through town one day, and I mentioned The Secret and told her about it. And she thought for a while, and said 'That's just what I need!' So we pulled over, and she asked for a couch. And then we drove on, and we turned a corner, and there was a couch, just sitting there, on the side of the road!!! We both started screaming; it was amazing."

Me: "So did you get it?"

Patron: "Nah...when we got up close, it turned out to be pretty dirty, and smelled bad. She ended up buying one--but she got a couch"

Most of the stories have been like that. The Secret is the latest in a long line of recycled hokum--I think that's what "has traveled through centuries to reach you..."
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Beth on February 25, 2008, 11:45:09 PM
Okay, so it's basically the idea of putting thoughts out into the universe? Didn't Buddhists already figure that out a while ago?

Silly silly moneymaking silly stuff. That's what I have to say about that. Much like cigarettes. It all ties in. 
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on February 26, 2008, 07:44:24 AM
Wasn't The Celestine Prophecies--another pandering bit of crap--similarly hyped?  Who remembers it now?  (The only reason I do is that my sisters and I oh-so-cleverly referred to it as The Celestial Seasonings.)

On the subject of booberie, I'm happy to report that at the bar last Wednesday not one person insisted that wild stuff was going to happen because it was a full moon.  Apparently, the eclipse, well, eclipsed that superstition (yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what emergency room personnel say; I don't buy it): everyone just got a kick out of it and forgot to see lunatic behavior in each tic.  I was relieved.

It was odd, however, when a bunch of 'em burst into a song about fog as the eclipse approached its height.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: folksnake on February 26, 2008, 10:31:54 AM
Wasn't The Celestine Prophecies--another pandering bit of crap--similarly hyped?  Who remembers it now?

I do! Still have a nasty taste in my mouth from it!

One of the ways I keep track of this stuff (other than watching people check these books out over the past 27 years...) is to keep an eye on the library's donations. We get tons of donated books--from estates, people cleaning out the basement, etc. Lots of National Geographic collections (everyone sees them as a collectible, seemingly) and all other sorts of things. Peppered and salted in the bunch is a steady flow of yesterday's revelatory missives. The Celestine Prophecies is always showing up.

Right now, if I could stop any single "author" in their tracks, it would be that creepy old fraud Sylvia Brown. Jesus, she's bad news. She shoved John Edward under the bus some time ago, and has proceeded to churn out a "book" every few months. It's maddening.

Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Josh on February 26, 2008, 10:36:54 AM
It was odd, however, when a bunch of 'em burst into a song about fog as the eclipse approached its height.

Was it "Werewolf Bar Mitzvah"?
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 26, 2008, 10:51:55 AM
Okay, so it's basically the idea of putting thoughts out into the universe? Didn't Buddhists already figure that out a while ago?

Silly silly moneymaking silly stuff. That's what I have to say about that. Much like cigarettes. It all ties in. 

I agree. The moneymaking Buddhists are the WORST.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: John Junk on February 26, 2008, 11:41:11 AM
I agree that the way "The Secret" is framed it's very silly, and I'll also agree it's basically some Buddhist thought mixed with some post-Jurassic-Park armchair chaos theory as well as some chicken soup for the soul.  The Secret itself is a total non-secret.  Having said that, it's pretty harmless.  Unless something turns and The Secret's folllowers get all Secretologist, I never really get it when people get mad about it (not saying any of you are).  It's basically feel-good stuff with some bonus flim-flam.  I will say this, erika, if you can imagine yourself smoke-free in the immediate future, that reality will manifest itself because you're sending the energy that will create that reality out into the world and also inviting those circumstances upon yourself! (Eyes turn into spinning spirals, starts drooling...)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: ericluxury on February 26, 2008, 02:55:48 PM
I think one of the reasons people get mad at the Secret (other than they are angry people who have to keep the appearance of not being angry) has to do with frequency. In my general circle of friends, self-help books might be read but they are generally treated as something to say 'I know its stupid but ...'. I think a lot of people's circle, there is much more comfort with self-help and those people probably got a downpour of people telling them about it.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on February 26, 2008, 03:34:28 PM
I don't know much about this secret business, but I do know that one of the things I have against its type of facile solace is that the people who believe in it are so often so horribly condescending to those who don't share their faith and so callously dismissive of their problems.  "Oh, if you just do thus-and-such, everything will be fine."  (And, if it isn't, it's because you didn't do thus-and-such correctly.)  It's a very convenient loophole:  any failure can be blamed on the person who reports it, instead of on the system itself. 
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Gilly on February 26, 2008, 04:37:29 PM
I don't have any problems with The Secret. People can spend money on whatever they'd like. Hopefully they can find the happiness they are searching for.

Dorvid just said I recommend "the book" and it immediately made me think of the Secret.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on February 27, 2008, 11:40:07 AM
Go Dave!  Go Erika!

I've done some work for/with Tibet House and Students for a Free Tibet, and I have some thoughts on how passive-aggressive white/Western Buddhists can be (as opposed to the actual Tibetans I worked with, who were just like non-Buddhists, but maybe a little bit funnier and nicer).  But that's for another time (and thread).
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Denim Gremlin on February 27, 2008, 02:29:36 PM
Go Dave!  Go Erika!

I've done some work for/with Tibet House and Students for a Free Tibet, and I have some thoughts on how passive-aggressive white/Western Buddhists can be (as opposed to the actual Tibetans I worked with, who were just like non-Buddhists, but maybe a little bit funnier and nicer).  But that's for another time (and thread).

but it sounds like a more interesting story than anything on the last few pages of this thread (and most others).

start it!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on February 27, 2008, 10:38:55 PM
Colin, that's also one of those stories where, when you describe the story you basically tell it.  There are some other details (actually my experiences with Tibetan refugee teenagers were pretty awesome and funny and sad), but the above basically is my passive-aggressive American Buddhist story.

True story about a true story: in 2000, I was almost on This American Life because my biological father, a crazy hippie freak who lives in the Haight and whom I met for the first time at age 24, was a contestant on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.  The second time I ever laid eyes on him was from the studio audience on like 66th Street or wherever it is they shoot it.  We actually went into studios in SF and NYC to talk to Starlee Kine in Chicago, but in the end they didn't air it because there really wasn't anything else to the story. I'm mildly exasperated with the guy but am long over whatever abandonment trauma I had, and he didn't win that much money.  The pitch was infinitely better than the whole story.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on March 06, 2008, 02:28:53 PM
Sorry to take this thread back to such a boring topic, but has anyone heard anything about or had any experiences with Chantix? I've heard mixed results. Mixed as in everything from "It's the only way I was able to quit" to "I wanted to kill myself while I was on it".

(And thanks again for indulging me in this thread.)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Gregory on March 06, 2008, 03:00:40 PM
Here's a scary article about Chantix that was in New York Magazine a few weeks ago. This is all I've heard about Chantix though.

http://nymag.com/news/features/43892/ (http://nymag.com/news/features/43892/)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on March 06, 2008, 03:03:57 PM
Yeah I did read that. And a lot of other bad press. But then I hear these stories of people I know who smoked for 20 years and quit successfully.

Overall I'm scared of the drugs. I have a friend who wants to go on them though. That's why I'm asking...
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Beth on March 06, 2008, 04:29:50 PM
Yeah I did read that. And a lot of other bad press. But then I hear these stories of people I know who smoked for 20 years and quit successfully.

Overall I'm scared of the drugs. I have a friend who wants to go on them though. That's why I'm asking...

A friend of mine took a prescription drug to stop smoking (I don't know if it was Chantix, though) and she said she'd get insane migraines every time she would sing, laugh, or have an orgasm. I'd say that's pretty bad as far as side effects go.
Title: Not trying to steal your thunder.
Post by: Spoony on March 06, 2008, 04:49:30 PM
I (hopefully) smoked my last cig last night. There wasn't much ceremony around it. I didn't think it was a big deal until this morning, when I kept looking over to where the pack usually is.

C
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Swami on March 06, 2008, 09:54:02 PM
Smoked for 15 years. 5 years ago, chronic bronchitis and 4 days in the hospital with pneumonia caused me to quit smoking. I was addicted to nicotine substitutes for 4 years! I chewed that horrible nicotine gum for about a year, until a filling came loose. I then got hooked on nicotine lozenges for about 3 years. Taste horrible but does the job.(I asked my M.D. if I should worry about any long term effects. She told me that it would be better to treat any side effects from lozenges than to manage the overt effects of smoking.) October 2006 I went to an out of town conference for two days, and only brought nicotine patches. When I got home I just stopped with the patches; I kicked the oral reflex component as well as the physical addiction to nicotine itself.  The oral fixation was the toughest. Also the lozenges were not as readily available as smokes: can't get lozenges at a gas station, bar, etc. Am now addicted to sugar free Splenda candies.Very difficult withdrawal, felt nauseous and incredibly cranky for  2-3 days, and then generally acted "dickish" for about, well, ever since. Still have the occasional desire to puff, especially when the booze flows. Now I drink faster, or don't drink at all. I have had recent dreams where I was a smoker. Speaking of which---Those patches gave me the most vivid, psychedelic dreams. Oh yeah. I put on 30 lbs also. Better to be stuck in the oral stage I guess. Beats the anal stage.
Good luck ya big quitters.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 06, 2008, 11:22:11 PM
Yeah I did read that. And a lot of other bad press. But then I hear these stories of people I know who smoked for 20 years and quit successfully.

Overall I'm scared of the drugs. I have a friend who wants to go on them though. That's why I'm asking...

A friend of mine took a prescription drug to stop smoking (I don't know if it was Chantix, though) and she said she'd get insane migraines every time she would sing, laugh, or have an orgasm. I'd say that's pretty bad as far as side effects go.

I'm totally writing a musical about your friend.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on March 14, 2008, 11:25:14 AM
You know how they say that most people who quit smoking need to try a few times before they succeed? And you know how I thought I WASN'T going to be one of those people?

I was wrong.

This attempt has not been 100% successful. I cannot yet call myself an ex-smoker.

I was in this whole quitting thing with someone else, and they've decided not to quit at all. (I was quitting for my boyfriend, and he was quitting for me... NOT a good combination) In the meantime, I've slipped back to smoking daily again. I smoke 4 cigarettes a day. I know this won't last forever. Everyone tells me I'll be right back to my regular amount in no time, although I have no desire to go back to that again.

I'm still living through my cravings, but I give in to a few of them each day.

I'm working on it. This is going to take a while. One part of me feels like I made progress and the other feels like a big embarrassed failure.

And, I'm buying "the book". Pronto.

Sorry everyone. Sorry Tom.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: argyle on March 14, 2008, 11:35:51 AM
Don't apologize Erika!  It took me four or five times to quit my half pack a day habit.  It's tough as hell and you gotta do whatever works.

I quit by making four $50 bets with my friends that I wouldn't smoke for a year.  Each cigarette then carried a $200 price tag.  My cheapness beat out my addiction and a year later when I won I was too grateful to ask for the money.  That might work, if you aren't a welsher.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Spoony on March 14, 2008, 11:38:13 AM
Don't take it out on yourself too much.

The self hating only makes you want to smoke more. I know it sounds pedestrian, but chewing gum helps. I'm walking around like Burt Reynolds banging away on a literal handful of Tridents. Try a couple days of one cig a day to ween yourself off the nicotine and then keep a pack of sugar-free gum in your pocket ALL THE TIME. Make sure it's sugar free because you will probably put on a couple of pounds (I've noticed I'm a little chunkier) and you don't want anything adding to the guilt.

You can't do this alone either, you got to get your Man in on this too. You'll be fine for a week until he leaves a pack laying out or smokes after a couple of beers.

YOU'RE STILL IN THIS, SUPERCALLER.

C
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Jason on March 14, 2008, 11:50:35 AM
I knew you weren't a quitter.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 14, 2008, 11:55:00 AM
It's tough when your partner is a smoker.  I think one of the things that made it easier was that my wife (then-girlfriend) was never one. 

I think it might be time to show Greg from Baltimore the door.













Just kidding!  Don't beat me up, Greg!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: todd on March 14, 2008, 12:00:26 PM
Have you tried splashing cold water on your face?
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on March 14, 2008, 02:13:31 PM
I think a labotomy might be a better solution.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Spoony on March 14, 2008, 02:57:34 PM
The "Tobacco Lobotomy" involves a surgeon rubbing a lit cigarette out on your frontal lobe.

You don't want that. If the guys not careful, he obliterates your ability to brush your teeth.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: yesno on March 15, 2008, 12:32:46 PM
Ok.  I'm going to paste in a comment I wrote in a blog elsewhere about the technique I  have used to rid myself of bad habits.  Smoking is probably the A #1 top hardest habit to quit (mostly because there's little harm is smoking *just one*, right?), but you might find this helpful.

I used this technique to both become a pesce-pollotarian, and to give up drinking.  (I was never even close to a problem drinker, but since alcoholism is somewhat common in my (Irish, of course) family and in the legal profession, I decided to just totally give up alcohol before starting law school.  It was the best decision I ever made.)

Smoking is a habit that is sometimes easier to contain, than to cold-turkey right away.  Sometimes people can't quit smoking entirely, but can reduce themselves to, say, only one cigarette per day.  Or you could start smoking a pipe, like Linus.

Anywhere, here's my little spiel that I have honestly found very useful.  You become a little crazy, internally yelling at yourself, but it works.

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It sounds cheesy, but the process used by “Rational Recovery” to get people off booze and drugs works really well for kicking all kinds of bad habits. (It’s not as good at getting you to do something, such as go running.)

I use the public domain version of their idea, which can be reduced down to CORE: Commit, Objectify, Respond, Enjoy.

You Commit to giving up the bad habit. (They say to do it just to yourself, but I find it’s far more effective if you tell others, too. That outside accountability helps.)

When you find yourself craving it, you realize that it’s not really the rational “you” that wants the bad thing. It’s a base part of your brain that you need to control. You turn “you” want it into “it” wants it, objectifying the craving and turning it into an unwelcome intruder in your thoughts.

You Respond to the intruder, by saying “No. I’m in charge, buddy, not you.” You reassert your rational, planning self’s dominance over your desires.

And you make sure to Enjoy your lifestyle— the increased sense of well-being and mastery that comes with your control. Never forget that.
Now, all this might be based on bogus psychology or neuroscience, but it works. Really well. And it doesn’t involve some “turn yourself over to a higher power” mumbo-jumbo. If anything, it’s a bit disturbingly Nietzschean.

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Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Spoony on March 16, 2008, 01:38:04 AM
Thank you for sharing that. That's an amazing deconstruction. I hope that will help.

C
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 17, 2008, 04:50:32 PM
Erika,

In college, I smoked about 15 a day. Now at 38, and for the past 10 years or so, I've been smoking one cigarette a day...at the end of the day.  I know it's not quitting, but it's a lot better than where I was.

The trick for me was waiting as long as possible during the day to "break the seal." Because after that first one, the temptation just gets stronger.  So now I wait until the kids are asleep, the cat is fed, and the dishes are done. Then I go outside and have one.  By the time the stink is off me from that one, it's time for bed anyway.

Of course, I would like to be at zero a day, and I am still trying to concoct a way to do it.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on March 17, 2008, 04:59:12 PM
That does make me feel better. I tend to wait as long as possible to smoke one. I haven't had one yet today :)
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: joanna on May 17, 2008, 10:08:41 PM
Erika -

This might sound rough, but your SuperCaller status is contingent upon you sticking with this.

so erika! feel free to start smoking again!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Phantom Hugger on April 07, 2009, 12:39:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwqC_APnynQ

All of his videos are gold. I recommend subscribing.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on April 07, 2009, 01:02:42 PM
Scoliosis, here I come!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on April 07, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
its interesting that i decided to read this thread today since ive been talking with friends randomly about smoking the last two days.

i used to smoke when i went drinking.  i didnt smoke at work, when i woke up, or before i went to bed.  a few nites i would finish off a pack in one nite, in mere hours.  in recent months i started feeling sick when i smoked, i could barely finish one cigarette, and ive officially quit.  i want a cigarette terribly when im out, but neither of the roommates smoke (making it easier) and when im with other smokers, i get nauseous smelling the second-hand. 

despite all these things, i still crave cigarettes, but the sick feeling alone keeps me away.  not to mention, taxes just went up in AZ- a good pack of parliaments costs $7 and pall malls are almost as expensive.  no thanks.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Julie on April 07, 2009, 02:42:50 PM
Someone I work with told me to cut down by one cigarette per day every week. That's a great idea, only I really underexagerated the amount I smoke, so it's taking longer than I want it to take. And then I started smoking more when I stopped drinking, so I have to start over again. But I feel better and go through the entire workday without smoking now.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: erika on April 07, 2009, 02:45:32 PM
Someone* is just gonna have to get me pregnant in order for me to stop. Sad but true.



*preferably my fiancee
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on April 07, 2009, 03:52:49 PM
I'm fairly content with the amount I smoke now, though I'd be glad to stop altogether.  When I go to the bar, I smoke, but I do that very rarely nowadays.  And then there are occasions--like today, in fact--when I buy a couple of packs, work my way through them, and then smoke no more, for days, weeks, even months at a time.  I've maintained this pattern for almost a year and a half now, so I have some faith that I won't just slide back into a daily habit.  Which is a damn good thing, since it would bankrupt me if I did, what with the amount I'd smoke (one-and-a-half to two packs a day, sober; more when I'm tippling).

It's FOT confessional time!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on April 07, 2009, 03:56:12 PM
I smoke one cigarette a day, at the end of the day. It's like a "job well done" cigarette. I have been doing this for about ten years.

When I go out with smoking friends, which is about once a month now, I might have more.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on April 07, 2009, 05:08:00 PM
It's FOT confessional time!

a FOTchan revivial?!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on April 07, 2009, 05:12:55 PM
A callback, if you will.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Julie on April 07, 2009, 05:58:19 PM
Smoking is soothing.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: dave from knoxville on April 13, 2009, 03:52:48 PM
I never smoked. I didn't want to be soothed.

I had my first drink on my 40th birthday. I have had probably 3 dozen since.

I have never smoked pot.

In fact, I never did any drug that a doctor didn't instruct me to take.

And yet I had symptoms that signified entry-level morphine addiction at one point. Irony!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on April 13, 2009, 05:29:03 PM
Apparently it's a good thing you never smoked, drank, or drugged for fun, DfK.  It would seem you're a junkie waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Trembling Eagle on April 13, 2009, 11:15:50 PM
I can't afford to smoke.
yay
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: dave from knoxville on April 14, 2009, 06:44:43 AM
Apparently it's a good thing you never smoked, drank, or drugged for fun, DfK.  It would seem you're a junkie waiting to happen.

Well, I DO weigh 627 pounds. Compulsion will find a way!!!
Title: Re: Today I am smoking my last pack of cigarettes
Post by: Sarah on April 14, 2009, 08:48:30 AM
Don't I know it.