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Title: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Fido on January 20, 2008, 11:29:46 PM
I can't help but remark about the victory of the New York Giants tonight, which places them in the Super Bowl against the undefeated New England Patriots.  I can't say I've cared to watch any games in the NFL season this year (like most other years), but have to note that this sets up a familiar scenario.  This year, with the Patriots undefeated and being called by some the best team ever in NFL history, we've got a Super Bowl that will really be a case of the SNOBS VERSUS THE SLOBS!!!   Yeah, there have been many lopsided matchups in previous Super Bowl games, but this one seems particularly lopsided.   I think I may actually have to tune in. 

On the other hand, the Super Bowl gets too much damned attention already. 
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Chris L on January 20, 2008, 11:45:56 PM
I don't know too many slobs named R.W. McQuarters, Madison Hedgecock or Plaxico Burress, but I'll take it.  Actually, those sound more like rejected character names from Plunko.

The Giants put in a respectable effort against the Pats in the last game of the season so it might not be too bad a slaughter. 
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: chrisfoll577 on January 20, 2008, 11:58:43 PM
if it's any consolation to giants fans, the last slobs vs. snobs superbowl involved my patriots vs. 'greatest show on turf' st. louis rams in 2002, and we won that despite all expectations.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: folksnake on January 21, 2008, 10:04:59 AM
My only hope for the outcome of this last game will be some sort of a tie, brought on by supernatural intervention. It's all I ask; if my prayers are answered, I'll ask for nothing more all year. Thanks.

Does anyone else ever feel a sense of relief once their team has been eliminated--like now part of your weekend is yours again?
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Wes on January 21, 2008, 10:10:21 AM
You can rationalize the guys with the snob-sounding names on the slob team by picturing them like that rich guy who joined the Police Academy in that one Police Academy movie. This may have actually happened in multiple Police Academy movies.

I think what I like least about the Patriots is that they're snobs in slobs' clothing. Despite getting "greatest team ever?" talk from pre-season on and being favored in the teens and twenties multiple times, they still pull that "nobody believed in us!" business. Even yesterday, beating a team with a jerk with two bum legs at QB and the best player on the team out for much of the game, Harrison was on TV at the end saying "Not bad for a bunch of washed-up 30 year old guys!" sarcastically, like anyone really thought they were going to lose.

The overplaying of the us-against-the-world/"nobody believed in us!" card, especially when it's not even warranted, is the worst thing in sports right now.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: buffcoat on January 21, 2008, 10:32:03 AM
You can rationalize the guys with the snob-sounding names on the slob team by picturing them like that rich guy who joined the Police Academy in that one Police Academy movie. This may have actually happened in multiple Police Academy movies.

I


Cadet Hedges from Police Academy 3, played by David Huband, complete with limo and cravat.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Fido on January 21, 2008, 01:35:22 PM
I think what I like least about the Patriots is that they're snobs in slobs' clothing. Despite getting "greatest team ever?" talk from pre-season on and being favored in the teens and twenties multiple times, they still pull that "nobody believed in us!" business. Even yesterday, beating a team with a jerk with two bum legs at QB and the best player on the team out for much of the game, Harrison was on TV at the end saying "Not bad for a bunch of washed-up 30 year old guys!" sarcastically, like anyone really thought they were going to lose.

The overplaying of the us-against-the-world/"nobody believed in us!" card, especially when it's not even warranted, is the worst thing in sports right now.
I suspect that's Belichick's effect on the team.  It really is BS.  It reminds me of Christian Right leaders making themselves out to be the victims all the time and fomenting that mentality in their ranks. Washed up thirty-year-old guys.  Please. 

Look at me, now I'm getting fired up here!  Who knew it was possible?


Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Fido on January 21, 2008, 01:37:45 PM
Does anyone else ever feel a sense of relief once their team has been eliminated--like now part of your weekend is yours again?

I always feel that way at the end of the baseball season.  However, it had a weird twist this year, since I am a Mets fan and the Mets so rapidly self-destructed at the end of the season.  I didn't know what to do with myself after that.  Fortunately, the feeling only lasted for a few days and then I was fine. 
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Josh on February 04, 2008, 09:46:48 AM
How racist were those Salesgenie ads (http://www.salesgenie.com/LandingAd/LandingAdSb.aspx?bas_vendor=70607)?


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Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: bruce on February 04, 2008, 09:49:24 AM
How racist were those Salesgenie ads (http://www.salesgenie.com/LandingAd/LandingAdSb.aspx?bas_vendor=70607)?
Do you mean that all Pandas don't have Chinese accents that make Charlie Chan look PC or that all Indians sound like Apu from the Simpsons.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Josh on February 04, 2008, 10:16:29 AM
Do you mean that all Pandas don't have Chinese accents that make Charlie Chan look PC or that all Indians sound like Apu from the Simpsons.


Not to mention that all Indians have 7 children.


And yeah, the accent on those pandas would make Mickey Rooney's character in Breakfast and Tiffany's blush. Super Bowl 42: where Carlos Mencia isn't the most racist thing going.

Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: <<<<< on February 04, 2008, 10:19:50 AM
This year, with the Patriots undefeated and being called by some the best team ever in NFL history. 

Weren't they saying that about the Rams a few years ago?  I think they got that one wrong too. 
I suppose they intend to use the "best team ever" slant to hype up some team every few years or so.
Who knows, some day they'll possibly even be right.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: folksnake on February 04, 2008, 11:00:10 PM
How racist were those Salesgenie ads (http://www.salesgenie.com/LandingAd/LandingAdSb.aspx?bas_vendor=70607)?

It hit me the same way, too. At work today (public library) I had so many people--patrons, staffers, everybody--mention this very thing. One woman thought there must be a law against airing things like that on TV, bless her.
It can't have been missed in all the meeting they took as they devloped those spots. Must be an angle they wanted to mine...
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Gilly on February 04, 2008, 11:27:49 PM
I can't believe there wasn't more of an uproar today about those ads. I said the same thing to a friend while we were watching. "How did that get approved?" For how safe Fox has been since "the incident", that's not very safe. Or, maybe racism isn't as bad as a nipple to them.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Laurie on February 04, 2008, 11:31:43 PM
I'm pretty sure Fox doesn't have a problem with racism.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Fido on February 05, 2008, 09:19:21 AM
I could not believe the ad that I saw.  I also haven't heard any kind of uproar about them and am surprised by that, but I suspect the uproar hasn't fully materialized *yet*.  I'm fully expecting there to be one, and deservedly so.  It just might not be front and center, reported on CNN etc., and other media who don't quite get it, or think for some reason that it doesn't quite register as sufficiently outrageous.  For now, I'll make sure not to purchase their services.

Just imagine if there had been black Sambo-type characters featured in the ad.  That would be discussed, certainly, and I'm not suggesting for a moment that it shouldn't be.  I am suggesting that America may not be as sensitized to racist images of Asian people as it ought to be.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Fido on February 05, 2008, 09:21:37 AM
Oh, yeah.  I forgot to gloat.  THE SLOBS WON!!!! 
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Phantom Hugger on February 05, 2008, 11:29:20 AM
I also thought the swerving to miss Alice Cooper then speeding up as if to run over Richard Simmons car commercial had definite homophobic tones.

Proud moments, America.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Gilly on February 05, 2008, 01:22:18 PM
I also thought the swerving to miss Alice Cooper then speeding up as if to run over Richard Simmons car commercial had definite homophobic tones.

Proud moments, America.

Eh, I don't know about that. He's been America's punching bag, and he puts himself out there to take it. Maybe it has something to do with homophobia but it has more to do with how loony the guy is. It's very awkward to watch though, especially when you see him on Letterman or Stern. That's just painful.

Super Bowl commercials are supposed to make you laugh not make you feel awkward!
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Denim Gremlin on February 05, 2008, 03:49:27 PM
I could not believe the ad that I saw.  I also haven't heard any kind of uproar about them and am surprised by that, but I suspect the uproar hasn't fully materialized *yet*.  I'm fully expecting there to be one, and deservedly so.  It just might not be front and center, reported on CNN etc., and other media who don't quite get it, or think for some reason that it doesn't quite register as sufficiently outrageous.  For now, I'll make sure not to purchase their services.

Just imagine if there had been black Sambo-type characters featured in the ad.  That would be discussed, certainly, and I'm not suggesting for a moment that it shouldn't be.  I am suggesting that America may not be as sensitized to racist images of Asian people as it ought to be.

those were pretty bad I'll admit and i'm totally in agreement that for some reason asian stereo types don't seem to be a problem but reading the descriptions of the commercials on this board before watching them I was surprised at how exaggerated the descriptions were.

those pandas would make the character from breakfast at tiffany's blush? give me a break! they were hardly as bad as most of the Asian caricatures we see all the time on cartoons and comedy shows, including the Simpsons which no one seems to get bothered by, I mean that Indian guys accent was barely there compared to Apu.

I don't really know what my point is, I think this shit needs to be stopped too.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Josh on February 06, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
embellishment - n. the act of embellishing
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: jane on February 06, 2008, 06:05:22 PM


those pandas would make the character from breakfast at tiffany's blush? give me a break!

You mean Mr. Yunioshi as played by Mickey Rooney?
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Sarah on February 06, 2008, 06:07:52 PM
And he was supposed to be Japanese, not Chinese like a panda.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Denim Gremlin on February 06, 2008, 06:09:27 PM
so I watched them again.

I take back playing devil's advocate on this one. ugh disgusting.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: Josh on February 06, 2008, 07:25:01 PM
meet Victor Thompson...
(http://fdimg.sv.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=FD&Date=20080205&Category=GJNEWS02&ArtNo=912043622&Ref=AR&MaxW=250) (http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/GJNEWS02/912043622/-1/CITNEWS08)
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: B_Buster on February 07, 2008, 12:18:09 PM
My people:

http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a25c39217e3e5d30117e4f5e41b0003
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: bruce on February 07, 2008, 05:09:57 PM
Carl Rules and I was totally expecting that ending
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: chrisfoll577 on February 08, 2008, 07:21:07 AM
funny, i had carl as a jets fan.

i'm a lifelong pats fan, and even my favorite radio show host and one of my favorite tv shows are taunting me now.  but y'know what? we deserve it. tom was right, everybody involved with the pats: coaches, players and fans included got arrogant and the team's hubris (plus the giants' defensive line) was the pats' undoing.  it was an amazing game, and if i didn't feel like throwing up constantly ever since the end of the game, i could actually appreciate how awesome it really was.
Title: Re: Giants in the Super Bowl: Snobs vs. Slobs
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 08, 2008, 07:52:31 AM
I don't normally link to articles in The Onion because it seems too easy (I mean, spinning out 40 fake articles a day, even Clark would be bound to get one right occasionally) but this made me laugh so loud that I woke up Andy from Knoxville, who was asleep behind a closed door, upstairs, and 60 feet away. But then, maybe I found it funny because I won my pool by picking the Giants to win the Super Bowl before the play-offs started.
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/patriots_season_perfect_for_rest (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/patriots_season_perfect_for_rest)