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Title: Tom was right.
Post by: MartinVanB on February 08, 2008, 08:50:31 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3idcbd8b2768e91159c69b10d8ad4ba21a (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3idcbd8b2768e91159c69b10d8ad4ba21a)

Daydream Nation: Forthcoming teen comedy directed by Michael Goldbach, starring "Heroes" cheerleader Hayden Panettiere and maybe Kieran Culkin, "the producers are hoping to reinvent the coming-of-age story for the 21st century, calling the film an intellectual comedy a la Juno and Election."
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: God Stewart on February 08, 2008, 09:15:43 AM
The Culkins do good work though. Kieran should hold the ship together just like in Igby Goes Down. <stealing Tom's stylie>Wait what's opposite of a floating ship? Oh right, a sinking ship.</stealing Tom's stylie>

He was great as Harry Potter's evil twin in the last movie though. I forgot the name of it— was it, Harry Goes Bananas?
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: erika on February 08, 2008, 09:25:30 AM
Huh, and named after a Sonic Youth album? For shame.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: <<<<< on February 08, 2008, 09:33:54 AM
Huh, and named after a Sonic Youth album? For shame.

But alas, teenagers of today are simply too young to catch that.

Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 08, 2008, 09:49:57 AM
Huh, and named after a Sonic Youth album? For shame.

But alas, teenagers of today are simply too young to catch that.



Most teenagers of today are so ill-informed that they wouldn't catch the reference if it were called "Fall-Out Boy".
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: erika on February 08, 2008, 09:59:12 AM
And awwwwaaaaay we go!

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Amanda Seyfried (Mean Girls, upcoming Mamma Mia!) will star opposite Megan Fox in Jennifer's Body, Diablo Cody and Jason Reitman's follow-up collaboration to Juno.

Karyn Kusama is directing the dark comedy-horror for Fox Atomic.

Cody's script centers on Jennifer (Fox), a cheerleader who is possessed by a demon and starts feeding off the boys in a Minnesota farming town. Her bookish best friend Needy (Seyfried) must take drastic measures to protect their town from the seductive teenager and her appetite for high school guys.

Reitman and his Hard C partner, Dan Dubiecki, as well as Mason Novick, are producing.

A March start date in Vancouver is planned.

Gross.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: samir on February 08, 2008, 10:11:52 AM
the friend is called Needy?

How delightfully whimsical/quirky!

Now shoot me in the face.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Chris L on February 08, 2008, 10:31:12 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3idcbd8b2768e91159c69b10d8ad4ba21a (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3idcbd8b2768e91159c69b10d8ad4ba21a)

Daydream Nation: Forthcoming teen comedy directed by Michael Goldbach, starring "Heroes" cheerleader Hayden Panettiere and maybe Kieran Culkin, "the producers are hoping to reinvent the coming-of-age story for the 21st century, calling the film an intellectual comedy a la Juno and Election."

I'm going to guess (probably wrongly) that the median age of the filmmakers is only slightly less than that of Sonic Youth.

Cody's script centers on Jennifer (Fox), a cheerleader who is possessed by a demon and starts feeding off the boys in a Minnesota farming town. Her bookish best friend Needy (Seyfried) must take drastic measures to protect their town from the seductive teenager and her appetite for high school guys.


Wasn't Plunko going to be a cheerleader at one point?
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: masterofsparks on February 08, 2008, 10:43:49 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3idcbd8b2768e91159c69b10d8ad4ba21a (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3idcbd8b2768e91159c69b10d8ad4ba21a)

Daydream Nation: Forthcoming teen comedy directed by Michael Goldbach, starring "Heroes" cheerleader Hayden Panettiere and maybe Kieran Culkin, "the producers are hoping to reinvent the coming-of-age story for the 21st century, calling the film an intellectual comedy a la Juno and Election."

I'm going to guess (probably wrongly) that the median age of the filmmakers is only slightly less than that of Sonic Youth.

75?
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: <<<<< on February 08, 2008, 11:13:36 AM
Huh, and named after a Sonic Youth album? For shame.

But alas, teenagers of today are simply too young to catch that.



Most teenagers of today are so ill-informed that they wouldn't catch the reference if it were called "Fall-Out Boy".

You have a point Dave.  I'd probably be giving my own age bracket too much credit if I assumed more than a handful could catch a Sonic Youth reference.  :/
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: <<<<< on February 08, 2008, 11:17:44 AM
Cody's script centers on Jennifer (Fox), a cheerleader who is possessed by a demon and starts feeding off the boys in a Minnesota farming town. Her bookish best friend Needy (Seyfried) must take drastic measures to protect their town from the seductive teenager and her appetite for high school guys.

Nice to see that her work is maturing. 

Demonic possession??

Honestly, I grew up in a Minnesota farming town (see -> high school thread).  I say let her eat everyone.  haha
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Chris L on February 08, 2008, 11:32:29 AM
Huh, and named after a Sonic Youth album? For shame.

But alas, teenagers of today are simply too young to catch that.



Most teenagers of today are so ill-informed that they wouldn't catch the reference if it were called "Fall-Out Boy".

You have a point Dave.  I'd probably be giving my own age bracket too much credit if I assumed more than a handful could catch a Sonic Youth reference.  :/



Judging by the number of kids at the last Sonic Youth show I went to, and due to the fact that they played that entire album a couple of times over the summer and have been successfully marketing themselves for 25 years, I would have to disagree.   

Also, who would have guessed that someone calling herself Diablo Cody would have an interest in shitty horror movies?  That just blindsided me. 
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Omar on February 08, 2008, 12:24:29 PM
the friend is called Needy?

How delightfully whimsical/quirky!

Now shoot me in the face.

Here's a Jennifer's Body script review from last month:

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-jennifer-s-body-story-details-3616

"Jennifer continues eating various classmates. No one believes Needy.
More witty banter ensues."

The title is obviously a reference to the Hole song of the same name.  I think Jason Bateman's band used to cover it when they opened for the Melvins.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 08, 2008, 12:34:00 PM
I will conduct an experiment on my statistics classes if you want. Let's hand them a list of band names. Let's let 5 of the bands be real, including Sonic Youth, with the other 4 being well-known-among-music-nuts but unknown to the public (Comets on Fire? Built To Spill? Broken Social Scene? people like that) and let the other 5 be nonexistent but plausible as band names (Momentum Flux? Run Midget Run? Water On the Smoker?)

We then simply ask the "kids" to select whether they think the name is for a real band or not.

Anybody want to play? If so, suggest some real and fake band names that I could use.

I think maybe I am making myself a nuisance by posting too much. Just say the word and I will log off for a week.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Pat K on February 08, 2008, 12:51:44 PM
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an intellectual comedy


Yeesh. This reminds me of when I was in film school, and every halfassed, non-creative, Fight Club-loving slacker that was the program would always pitch their terrible ideas as "psychological thrillers".  Now I feel like "intellectual comedy" is going to take its place in that same shitty pantheon.

Also, for Dave's very scientific-sounding study, I suggest The Oxford Collapse as a real band, and the Flaming Fisticuffs as a fake one.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: <<<<< on February 08, 2008, 01:58:42 PM
Sounds like a potentially amusing game to me.  :)

On the flipside, it's hard to entirely verify that any band name has never existed.  You know how it is ~ for every band that ever signs some sort of deal or lands on the obscurest radar, there are a million more that only 15 people ever saw play.  You could also almost make a game of dreaming up bogus band names and trying to see if you can verify if anyone's ever used the name for a band before.

I'd guess that Myspace alone is a pretty good indication of a good portion of bands that have existed in some form within the last 5 years or so.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: John Junk on February 08, 2008, 02:43:00 PM
The FOT better finish the Plunko script fast, because it's only a matter of time before the "Not Another Intellectual Comedy" franchise closes our window of opportunity.

Water on the Smoker is an awesome fake name!
My stand-by fave fake band name is Jpeg and the Gifs.  I swear some day I will be in a band with this name.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Sarah on February 08, 2008, 03:48:28 PM
I think maybe I am making myself a nuisance by posting too much. Just say the word and I will log off for a week.

Look at my post count, Dave.  Then look at yours.  Now shut up (and by that I mean keep posting). 
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Kibblesmith on February 08, 2008, 03:55:23 PM
Daydream Nation: Forthcoming teen comedy directed by Michael Goldbach, starring "Heroes" cheerleader Hayden Panettiere

Hayden Panettiere already made this movie, it was called Disney's The Ice Princess, and it was awesome.

(sigh.)

Just tell me it's not actually called Daydream Nation.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Julie on February 09, 2008, 08:46:29 AM
I will conduct an experiment on my statistics classes if you want. Let's hand them a list of band names. Let's let 5 of the bands be real, including Sonic Youth, with the other 4 being well-known-among-music-nuts but unknown to the public (Comets on Fire? Built To Spill? Broken Social Scene? people like that) and let the other 5 be nonexistent but plausible as band names (Momentum Flux? Run Midget Run? Water On the Smoker?)

We then simply ask the "kids" to select whether they think the name is for a real band or not.

Anybody want to play? If so, suggest some real and fake band names that I could use.

I think maybe I am making myself a nuisance by posting too much. Just say the word and I will log off for a week.
You need a better sampling method. Don't you teach them that?
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on February 09, 2008, 10:25:24 AM

...always pitch their terrible ideas as "psychological thrillers".  Now I feel like "intellectual comedy" is going to take its place in that same shitty pantheon.


Let's buck the system and write a "psychological comedy."

Also, Dave, here are some fake band names that may be real band names for all I know:
Collect All Four
The Sleep of the Righteous
Billy Barty's Body

Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on February 09, 2008, 12:09:09 PM
I'll see your Run Midget Run and raise you one Uncle Barry and the Shiksas.

In my class the other day I was going on about Henry Rollins (specifically w/r/t Thomas Frank's Baffler article, "Why Johnny Can't Dissent") and it slowly dawned on me that the kids had no idea who I was talking about.  So, in the next class, I switched the analogy to Hannah Montana (actually, it was a different analogy).

Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Beth on February 09, 2008, 12:09:44 PM
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Also, Dave, here are some fake band names that may be real band names for all I know:
Collect All Four
The Sleep of the Righteous
Billy Barty's Body

this wouldn't be an FOT thread if i didn't steer slightly off topic.

speaking of  trendy band names, the mention of wolves, deer, and birds seems ridiculously rampant these days.  just attach appropriate noun, verb, or adjective to any of those three animals, and you may have your next pitchfork hero. i swear that website probably doesn't even listen to the actual albums half of the time before they give their review.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: samir on February 09, 2008, 02:09:36 PM
How about all those "legendary" power pop bands?

Lovely Boys, The Craigs, Ted Jacobs and The Now, Sherbert Falls, The Album, The Sleestaks, Denny Leonard and the Lemmons, September Gurgles, The Zoom, Darren Robbins and the Rockstars, Sugar Pie Four, The Bingles, Failure Time, or Witchypoo, I Love You The Ghost Of Ann B. Davis, The Menthols, Larry Neville and The Fun, Bam Bam, Candy-Coated Sugar Smacks, and Rick and The Backers, The Need, The Hurt, The Yes, The No, and The Maybe.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Laurie on February 09, 2008, 02:42:27 PM
I'll see your Run Midget Run and raise you one Uncle Barry and the Shiksas.

In my class the other day I was going on about Henry Rollins (specifically w/r/t Thomas Frank's Baffler article, "Why Johnny Can't Dissent") and it slowly dawned on me that the kids had no idea who I was talking about.  So, in the next class, I switched the analogy to Hannah Montana (actually, it was a different analogy).



I thought you taught a college class?

Okay, I admit, I mostly know Henry Rollins as the guy who chases Lydia Lunch around and scared the shit out of me when I watched Richard Kern's dirty movies at the tender age of 16. Was that "Submit to Me"? On the first Hardcore video? I forget.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on February 09, 2008, 02:48:39 PM
I'll see your Run Midget Run and raise you one Uncle Barry and the Shiksas.

In my class the other day I was going on about Henry Rollins (specifically w/r/t Thomas Frank's Baffler article, "Why Johnny Can't Dissent") and it slowly dawned on me that the kids had no idea who I was talking about.  So, in the next class, I switched the analogy to Hannah Montana (actually, it was a different analogy).



I thought you taught a college class?


I do.  Three of them, in fact.  And, to be fair, most of my creative writing students are much more culturally savvy.

Though, truthfully, about 2 or 3 kids out of 22 knew who Rollins was.  And, while they all recognized Hannah Montana, my reference was meant as a a "teaching joke" (I invented a hypothetical Hannah Montana paper to demonstrate how cultural studies can take even the most trivial crap and find some sort of significance in it).
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: <<<<< on February 09, 2008, 05:51:54 PM
speaking of  trendy band names, the mention of wolves, deer, and birds seems ridiculously rampant these days.  just attach appropriate noun, verb, or adjective to any of those three animals, and you may have your next pitchfork hero.

Nice observation.  Could always be worse though.  Like how all of the industrial-type bands of the early nineties had an odd attachment to pigs.  Maybe a little amusing at first, but just sort of creepy and cliche after a bit.

Enough with the pig thing already.
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: John Junk on February 09, 2008, 06:31:15 PM
Wolfback Mountain.

On the rare occasions that I'm actually teaching people, I like to pretend that I know less than I actually do about pop culture, and to say stuff to my college-level art students like "I know you guys all love that Hey Yah song right now" and stuff.  Just try and be like four years off so that it's just lame enough to be believable.  Like "Yeah, maybe I should play some Eminem to wake you guys up.  'Lose Yourself In The Moment' right?  I know what you guys like!"
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: bobby. on February 09, 2008, 09:59:47 PM
haha, when I listened to the "movies -> video games" podcast, I was thinking of one obvious one (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/682680/Juno_Getting_A_Videogame.html) and surprised that nobody called up with it...
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: emma on February 09, 2008, 11:47:32 PM
How about all those "legendary" power pop bands?

Lovely Boys, The Craigs, Ted Jacobs and The Now, Sherbert Falls, The Album, The Sleestaks, Denny Leonard and the Lemmons, September Gurgles, The Zoom, Darren Robbins and the Rockstars, Sugar Pie Four, The Bingles, Failure Time, or Witchypoo, I Love You The Ghost Of Ann B. Davis, The Menthols, Larry Neville and The Fun, Bam Bam, Candy-Coated Sugar Smacks, and Rick and The Backers, The Need, The Hurt, The Yes, The No, and The Maybe.

I thought i was the only person with all of these written down somewhere!
Title: Re: Tom was right.
Post by: samir on February 10, 2008, 12:22:08 AM
I thought i was the only person with all of these written down somewhere!
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