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Title: rat king
Post by: kimota on March 11, 2008, 01:32:54 PM
Found this while wasting time at work.  I hope this hasn't been covered here before.


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g63/totep22/_wikipedia_commons_f_f4_Ratking.jpg)
 

 

Seen here is an example of a purported rat king, a giant rat beast created when many rats get their tails tangled together. Legend has it that the rats then grow together into a single creepy entity. This mummified "rat king" was discovered in 1828 in Buchheim, Germany and is currently on display at the museum Mauritianum in Altenburg, Germany. From Wikipedia: The earliest report of rat kings comes from 1564. If real, the phenomenon may have diminished when the brown rat (Rattus norvegicus) displaced the black rat (R. Rattus) in the 18th century. Sightings have been sporadic in the modern era; most recently comes an Estonian farmer's discovery in the Võrumaa region on January 16, 2005.

Most extant examples are formed from black rats (R. rattus). The only find involving sawah rats (Rattus rattus brevicaudatus) occurred on March 23, 1918, in Bogor on Java, where a rat king of ten young field rats was found. Similar attachments have been reported in other species: in April 1929, a group of young forest mice (Apodemus sylvaticus) was reported in Holstein; and there have been reports of squirrel kings. The Zoological Institute of the University of Hamburg allegedly owns a specimen.

Rat kings are not to be confused with conjoined twins, which arise in many species. Rat kings would grow together only after birth.

Title: Re: rat king
Post by: scotttsss on March 11, 2008, 11:01:39 PM
I hope this hasn't been covered here before.
:D 
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: TL on March 12, 2008, 12:37:38 AM
WTF???
I'm fascinated!  I will now officially learn everything there is to know about Rat Kings - thank you Totep!
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Post by: Sarah on March 12, 2008, 06:05:17 AM
I learned about rat kings in 1976/77.  In Paris, a very smart, very funny, half-crazy fellow named Michel Dansel (http://www.lecoindesrats.net/pages/?rub=divers_livres#dansel) fell in love with me and my parents (especially my mother, who was quite a looker).  It turned out he'd written a number of books, one of them called Nos frères, les rats (Our brothers, the rats), which I wish I knew French well enough and was enough of a writer to translate.  He was also the founder of the Société internationale des rats, which put out a quarterly journal called Rattus

Needless to say, we learned quite a bit about rats that year.

(Lest you get the wrong impression, Michel did not write exclusively about rats.  He also wrote a wonderful book about the Père Lachaise cemetery, various police procedurals, and a whole lot of other stuff (http://www.amazon.fr/Livres/s?ie=UTF8&rh=n%3A301061&field-author=Michel%20Dansel&page=1).  He was a neat guy.  I was a bit jealous of my mother.)
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: TL on March 12, 2008, 09:35:13 AM
I learned about rat kings in 1976/77.  In Paris, a very smart, very funny, half-crazy fellow named Michel Dansel (http://www.lecoindesrats.net/pages/?rub=divers_livres#dansel) fell in love with me and my parents (especially my mother, who was quite a looker).  It turned out he'd written a number of books, one of them called Nos frères, les rats (Our brothers, the rats), which I wish I knew French well enough and was enough of a writer to translate.  He was also the founder of the Société internationale des rats, which put out a quarterly journal called Rattus

Needless to say, we learned quite a bit about rats that year.

(Lest you get the wrong impression, Michel did not write exclusively about rats.  He also wrote a wonderful book about the Père Lachaise cemetery, various police procedurals, and a whole lot of other stuff (http://www.amazon.fr/Livres/s?ie=UTF8&rh=n%3A301061&field-author=Michel%20Dansel&page=1).  He was a neat guy.  I was a bit jealous of my mother.)

I like the names of what I'm assuming are some of his police books: Le cas du sergent bertrand, Paris incroyable , etc.  They sound REALLY great if you read them out loud with an overblown French accent and pretend that they all end with an exclamation point.
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 12, 2008, 09:38:30 AM
Everything sounds better like that, TL.

Yeah, I am completely fascinated by this.  I had heard about this somewhere, probably in a comic book, but it blows my mind that it actually happened (maybe).
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Laurie on March 12, 2008, 10:13:55 AM
Am I the only one who's going to say it? Okay, then.

Ewwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Martin on March 12, 2008, 10:33:45 AM
Never heard of it. So bizarre.
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Post by: Chris L on March 12, 2008, 10:39:01 AM
The Birthday Party are going to reunite just to do a song about this. 
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Matt on March 12, 2008, 01:03:09 PM
The Birthday Party are going to reunite just to do a song about this. 

Not if Armand Schaubroeck beats 'em to it.

"They call me the fuckin' Rat King - WELCOME TO MY BLOOOOOOOOOOOOCK!"
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Ignore Function on March 13, 2008, 12:23:43 AM
It would be cool if a rat from a rat king called the Best Show. 
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: TremblingEagle on March 13, 2008, 01:59:09 AM
I don't get it

they get their tails stuck together
so....?
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 13, 2008, 07:44:03 AM
Look at the picture, man, look!
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Martin on March 13, 2008, 08:50:23 AM
I smell Ratatouille sequel!

 ???
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Post by: Sarah on March 13, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
So Linguini would sport a sombrero in this one?
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Matt on March 13, 2008, 11:30:35 AM
I don't get it

they get their tails stuck together
so....?

I also don't get it. They get fused together in some way?
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Sarah on March 13, 2008, 11:31:47 AM
Well, a woman can fuse to a toilet seat.
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: kimota on March 13, 2008, 11:36:10 AM
I guess rats, mice, squirrels, etc. tend to gather together and sleep up against each other when it's cold.  Somehow their tails get knotted together and a rat king is born.
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Spoony on March 13, 2008, 01:33:37 PM
My favorite medieval punishment was tying a corpse to the back of an offender. The living tissue would start to rot with the dead tissue it was in contact with.

I hear you have to do this for a year before you can join the Bad Seeds.
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: kimota on March 13, 2008, 01:38:16 PM
Holy moley!!  Seriously??!
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Spoony on March 13, 2008, 02:17:34 PM
Yeah. I think it was a punishment for theft.

I started to look up some credible sources online, but the search was getting a little stomach-turning. You'll have to take my word for it.
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: kimota on March 13, 2008, 03:43:01 PM
Yeah, I think I will just take your word for it, Spoony.  Pretty harsh for just theft. 
Title: Re: rat king
Post by: Spoony on March 14, 2008, 10:54:58 AM
I admit I may have the crime mixed up. But somewhere out there is scofflaw that merited a back-necrosis themed punishment. Bleh. Those guys were pretty creative.

I wonder when mass entertainment got to a caliber high enough to distract people from their Creative Maiming classes.

C