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Title: Topic: I like some of it, but not all of it.
Post by: Denim Gremlin on March 12, 2008, 04:52:42 PM
I was thinking about this today. For me it's Young Frankenstein.

first like 20 minutes = Gold, I could probably quote that whole classroom scene line for line. I think that scene is one of my favorite Gene Wilder performances ever but if you asked me how that movie ends I couldn't tell you. I'm pretty sure I've gotten through it at least once before but nothing has stuck.
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Post by: Sploops on March 12, 2008, 05:21:59 PM
Your posts.  Just kidding, I don't like any of them.  Wait, this isn't fotchan!  I take it all back.
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 12, 2008, 05:27:58 PM
FOTchan.
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Post by: Putin on March 12, 2008, 05:33:08 PM
FOTchan.
oh, good one. i kind of fear imitations of *chans because i've been raided by those folks for doing so. they don't take lightly to being ripped off. also, *chan is usually a bunch of scumbag 6thgraders.
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Post by: Gilly on March 12, 2008, 06:13:34 PM
Soccer
Football
The Talking Heads
The new Stephen Malkmus album
Stanley Kubrick
The Democratic Party
The Republican Party
Record players
Going out for the night.
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Post by: masterofsparks on March 12, 2008, 06:15:46 PM
Stanley Kubrick

I agree wholeheartedly.
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Post by: Josh on March 12, 2008, 06:19:07 PM
Going out for the night.
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Post by: kimota on March 12, 2008, 06:22:08 PM
the Fortean Times
nem tacos
my job
any episode of On The Air
Bay View, WI
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Post by: Phantom Hugger on March 12, 2008, 06:55:12 PM
South By
Ang Lee's Hulk
Pizza (has anyone ever said to you, 'the crust is the best part!'? Go order a crust pizza then smart guy.)
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Post by: Beth on March 12, 2008, 07:26:40 PM
Buffy: The Vampire Slayer
Living in a farmhouse.
Sonic Youth
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Post by: emma on March 12, 2008, 07:32:29 PM
Buffy: The Vampire Slayer
Downtown Toronto
Televised curling competitions
Dave Eggers' writing
Flight of the Conchords
Reggae
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Post by: Stupornaut on March 12, 2008, 07:33:07 PM
The Gawker family of blogs
First-party Nintendo games
Thai food
Threadless.com
Amy Winehouse
the internet
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Post by: Putin on March 12, 2008, 08:38:01 PM
Threadless.com
the internet
yes! threadless is simultaneously the place where i got my favorite shirt and the place that i shun with a vengeance for producing crappy crap.
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Post by: emma on March 12, 2008, 10:04:41 PM
The Law and Order franchise.
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Post by: samir on March 12, 2008, 10:27:28 PM
Anything that Super Furry Animals have released post-Mwng.
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Post by: Laurie on March 12, 2008, 10:48:14 PM
Anything that Super Furry Animals have released post-Mwng.

Really? I thought "Rings Around the World" and "Phantom Power" had some really great, catchy songs.
Title: Re: Topic: I like some of it, but not all of it.
Post by: samir on March 13, 2008, 12:19:35 AM
Really? I thought "Rings Around the World" and "Phantom Power" had some really great, catchy songs.

You're right. But plenty of really forgettable slower ones too.

I like some of it, but not all of it.
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Post by: Phantom Hugger on March 13, 2008, 03:17:02 AM
The Law and Order franchise.


I miss Paul Sorvino
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Post by: Putin on March 13, 2008, 08:46:50 AM
The Law and Order franchise.


I miss Paul Sorvino
i miss jerry Orbach....i'll be his guest any day.
r.i.p. Lumiere.
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Post by: todd on March 13, 2008, 09:57:43 AM
Les Savy Fav
The Jerk
Sports (the athletic kind and the huey lewis kind)

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Post by: Martin on March 13, 2008, 10:45:38 AM
Wrestling!
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Post by: TL on March 13, 2008, 10:50:08 AM
Oh, I dunno... LIFE?
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Post by: Martin on March 13, 2008, 10:55:41 AM
Always the philosopher, TL.
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Post by: TL on March 13, 2008, 10:58:49 AM
Always the philosopher, TL.
[youtube]MWpBPC1YBZE[/youtube]

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Post by: Sarah on March 13, 2008, 11:39:36 AM
Allow me to help . . .

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWpBPC1YBZE[/youtube]
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Post by: Spoony on March 13, 2008, 12:10:20 PM
The original Dracula. You could tear out the middle of that book and not miss a beat. It's difficult for alot of people to admit, but it is fundamentally boring. But hey, the entire past tense of the narrative is kind of the point. Still a victorian ho-hummer though.

C
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Post by: buffcoat on March 13, 2008, 12:19:25 PM
The original Dracula. You could tear out the middle of that book and not miss a beat. It's difficult for alot of people to admit, but it is fundamentally boring. But hey, the entire past tense of the narrative is kind of the point. Still a victorian ho-hummer though.

C

On that note, Frankenstein is the most boring book ever written.  I like none of it, not some of it.
Title: Re: Topic: I like some of it, but not all of it.
Post by: Spoony on March 13, 2008, 01:27:57 PM

On that note, Frankenstein is the most boring book ever written.  I like none of it, not some of it.

I liked Frankenstein a little bit more. You have to approach it as a frame, within a frame, within a frame, within a Humanities class you were railroaded into taking.

Shelly did some things that I really like and are too boring to get into, but I thought it was good book to pick apart. I have a hard part getting over how intentionally histrionic she makes her characters. I have a feeling she wanted the reader to route for the beating that Frankenstien had coming. Just my opinion though. I concede that I had to throw some water on my face while I was reading it..
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Post by: yesno on March 13, 2008, 01:48:29 PM
The entire genre of "pop punk" music.
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Post by: A.M. Thomas on March 13, 2008, 01:57:50 PM
Pizza (has anyone ever said to you, 'the crust is the best part!'? Go order a crust pizza then smart guy.)

I will.  It's called bread.
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Post by: Putin on March 13, 2008, 06:49:40 PM

On that note, Frankenstein is the most boring book ever written.  I like none of it, not some of it.

I liked Frankenstein a little bit more. You have to approach it as a frame, within a frame, within a frame, within a Humanities class you were railroaded into taking.

Shelly did some things that I really like and are too boring to get into, but I thought it was good book to pick apart. I have a hard part getting over how intentionally histrionic she makes her characters. I have a feeling she wanted the reader to route for the beating that Frankenstien had coming. Just my opinion though. I concede that I had to throw some water on my face while I was reading it..

i disagree, Shelley makes Frankenstein's monster very sympathetic. The hysteric reactions of the characters illustrate the general public's immediate jump to judgement and penchant for hatred of that which is different. i liked all of it, not some of it.
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Post by: buffcoat on March 13, 2008, 10:54:04 PM
But unlike, say, Madame Bovary, which is deliberately boring to give us a sense of the character, Frankenstein is just Sofa King BORING.  My God.  Please, no more about the English seaside.  Do we really need to hear about the flowers in every valley that Frankenstein sees?

And I was ok with some of the same thing in Moby Dick, because he interspersed it with high action and the whaling talk read somewhat literary.  The Frankenstein stuff just killed me.
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 13, 2008, 11:30:54 PM
I love the whaling chapter.
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Post by: TL on March 13, 2008, 11:34:32 PM
There was an edition (I had it in paperback) that came out about 7 or 8 years ago that had new wood cut images with it.  I had it, briefly loved it, destroyed it on tour, and would love it again if I could find another copy (I haven't actually looked all that hard).  Anybody seen this anywhere?

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Post by: Matt on March 13, 2008, 11:48:02 PM
Twin Peaks
Title: Re: Topic: I like some of it, but not all of it.
Post by: Denim Gremlin on March 13, 2008, 11:51:50 PM
But unlike, say, Madame Bovary, which is deliberately boring to give us a sense of the character, Frankenstein is just Sofa King BORING.  My God.  Please, no more about the English seaside.  Do we really need to hear about the flowers in every valley that Frankenstein sees?

And I was ok with some of the same thing in Moby Dick, because he interspersed it with high action and the whaling talk read somewhat literary.  The Frankenstein stuff just killed me.

i agree on this, it seem to be cruising along nicely then before you know it you're smack in the middle of a whale encyclopedia.
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Post by: Spoony on March 14, 2008, 11:14:10 AM
i disagree, Shelley makes Frankenstein's monster very sympathetic. The hysteric reactions of the characters illustrate the general public's immediate jump to judgement and penchant for hatred of that which is different. i liked all of it, not some of it.
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You're right. I should have been a little more clear in what I wrote. The monster is the only sympathetic character. The rest are hysterical fodder.

Frankenstein creates this golum that runs off and started picking off everyone that the Dr would have had a Freudian issue with. Modern psychology was just starting to become a fad in Europe, and I'm pretty sure that played into the plot. The Dr lapses into this Victorian-stupor (I wish a doctor would prescribe The Rest Cure. I wish that doctor had a monocle.) until the monster gets close enough to almost energize him into action. He then has to hunt down and destroy the part of himself that's so hostile. But Frankenstein is such a weenus, that I route for the exciting half that's always out of reach.

That's what's so frustrating about books from that era. They thought they were showing off by withholding the action and removing it from the narrative to create "loss". It's an amazing example of duality, but this book could be used as punishment.
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Post by: buffcoat on March 14, 2008, 12:08:16 PM
this book could be used as punishment.

And has!
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Post by: kimota on March 14, 2008, 12:40:07 PM
Twin Peaks

Absolutely.  Especially the wonky middle of Season 2.
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Post by: argyle on March 14, 2008, 12:54:23 PM
Lost
Fela (usually don't like minutes 3 - 18 in a 22 minute song)
Rockford Files (better w/o the romance)
Degrassi Jr. High
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Post by: Gilly on March 14, 2008, 05:25:48 PM
Fela (usually don't like minutes 3 - 18 in a 22 minute song)

Really? I just listened to Zombie last night and wanted to listen to it again when it was over.
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Post by: argyle on March 14, 2008, 05:27:27 PM
I guess I'm easily bored. When his songs go on so, so, so, so long I start to get sleepy.
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Post by: Miss on March 14, 2008, 06:25:23 PM
boxes of chocolates.
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Post by: Andy on March 14, 2008, 07:00:08 PM
people
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Post by: dania on March 14, 2008, 07:05:30 PM
PJ Harvey
Can (that song "butterfly" at the beginning of Delay kind of sucks but almost everything else is fantastic)
My cat's shennanigans
episodes of Home Movies
Julie's wierd little-kid voice (I mean, it's kind of entertaining, but only a little bit because it fuels Tom's fire)
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Post by: Putin on March 14, 2008, 11:34:48 PM
It's an amazing example of duality, but this book could be used as punishment.

i see where you're coming from. a lot of people used to discount the book as bad writing because of Victor being such a total Dickweed, but i think it's a lot more likely that Shelley was criticizing victorian men. victor's hilariously lame and inopportune panoramic descriptions of nature are (i would argue, anyway) intentionally so. i think the characters are intentionally thin and stupid, except of course, the monster.
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Post by: God Stewart on March 15, 2008, 09:39:34 AM
Girl Scout Cookies! I almost started a whole other thread for this. Samoas/Caramel Delights are like cookie crack. I like a few thin mints every year but I'm not so hooked on those. I can handle one or two Do-si-Dos then they grow tiresome. I do not care for Cinnaspins, Tagalongs, All-Abouts, Lolligaggers, Pitter-Patters, Trefoils, Lemon Chalet Cremes or Flibbertigibbets.

For anyone living outside the realm of the Girl Scouts of America. Every year as a fundraiser the Girl Scouts of America send their legions into the streets to sell cookies that are available to order once a year. You can either pre-order them or purchase them from a cookie-monger on busy street corners or outside Grocery stores. Which ever girl scout sells the fewest cookies is kicked out of their troop.
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Post by: Andy on March 15, 2008, 10:22:24 AM
I was so mad that they quit making the lemon crème cookies.

also, its weird how they have different names in different parts of the country.  samoans are called caramel d'lights here.
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Post by: Dorvid Barnas on March 15, 2008, 10:22:58 AM
The Tagalong is the only Girl Scout cookie worth a damn.
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Post by: erika on March 15, 2008, 10:31:54 AM
I like a few parts of The Best Show.

The rest, you ask?

I DON'T LIKE IT, I LOVE IT!
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 15, 2008, 10:35:21 AM
The Tagalong is the only Girl Scout cookie worth a damn.

YEAH!

Those are the peanut butter ones, right?  Also, thin mints.  Yes, I like to put them in my freezer.  I know that might not be "cool" to all you Girl Scout cookie snobs, but I'm going to own it.

Damn, it's hard for me to get those.  A couple of years ago I taught on the Douglass College campus and some sorority was selling them in the student center, but I haven't seen them around since.  I'm guessing that there are Girl Scouts in Brooklyn, but that the cookies get sold by parents at work rather than door-to-door.
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Post by: Andy on March 15, 2008, 11:31:44 AM
the are plentiful here.  do we need to do some girl scout cookie care packages?
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 15, 2008, 11:49:40 AM
Hells yeah!

Though, to be honest, I haven't really made much of an effort on my end (though how would one go about that?  Send out a mass email asking if anyone knows any Girl Scouts?).  I'd feel bad asking.
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Post by: Gilly on March 15, 2008, 12:39:35 PM
There's usually somebody selling them outside Walmart on Saturdays when I'm walking by. Walmart lets groups like that set up shop outside their doors so it's a good bet that you can get them there without even having to order.
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 15, 2008, 02:06:27 PM
I dunno, I miss the cookies, but not having a Wal-Mart anywhere near me is kinda worth the trade-off.
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Post by: Gilly on March 15, 2008, 02:27:02 PM
You can't escape them in MN unless you're in the heart of Minneapolis or secluded in the country. I'm sure that's the way it is everywhere though. I like Walmart better than Target though. One treats their workers like crap and the other treats their customers like crap. Walmart actually fits the theme of this topic for me.
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 15, 2008, 03:10:10 PM
There is a Target within walking distance from me, but I avoid it if I can.  Once or twice a year there will be something like vacuum cleaner bags that I don't know where to find, so I'll just go there, and usually leave with a case of cat food.  Oh, and I've had so many DVD players break that I usually just go there and get the cheapest-ass replacement that I can.
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Post by: TL on March 15, 2008, 03:39:53 PM

Can (that song "butterfly" at the beginning of Delay kind of sucks but almost everything else is fantastic)


You're nuts.  That song's amazing.
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Post by: masterofsparks on March 15, 2008, 04:58:48 PM

Can (that song "butterfly" at the beginning of Delay kind of sucks but almost everything else is fantastic)


You're nuts.  That song's amazing.

Count me in the "you're nuts" camp as well. Butterfly rules.
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Post by: Andy on March 16, 2008, 07:24:19 AM
so is it the tagalong (chocolate and peanut butter) or dosido's (peanut butter crème sandwiches) that are supposed to be so good?
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Post by: God Stewart on March 16, 2008, 09:01:28 AM
Tagalongs are very popular, though I would say Tagalongs and Caramel Delights/Samoas are technically round canybars.
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 16, 2008, 11:41:04 AM
They're both pretty good, but Dosidos are like Nutter Butters.  The Tagalongs are like peanut butter Twix but way better.
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Post by: Swami on March 16, 2008, 11:51:14 AM
The King James Bible
The Chef Boyardee line of Canned Dinners
The U.S. Constitution
Brooklyn
Grad School
The Fairie Queene
Queen
Benign dictators
Meat Puppets
American History
David Lynch films


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Post by: emma on March 16, 2008, 12:03:59 PM
There is a Target within walking distance from me, but I avoid it if I can.  Once or twice a year there will be something like vacuum cleaner bags that I don't know where to find, so I'll just go there, and usually leave with a case of cat food.  Oh, and I've had so many DVD players break that I usually just go there and get the cheapest-ass replacement that I can.

Target is my guilty pleasure! I am in Florida right now and it is one of the American things that I love, but in a way I don't fully understand or necessarily like (cf. beer sold in gas stations, telemundo!, etc.). I don't think I have been in a Canadian Zellers or Wal-Mart for at least ten years, but I will wander around in the Target for over an hour, just kind of staring at everything.

This post kind of feels like it belongs in the Lighthouse Confessions thread instead of this one.
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Post by: samir on March 16, 2008, 12:26:17 PM
Florida, eh? Hey, I live there!

Also, for the topic: the films of Lars von Trier and David Mackenzie.
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Post by: Beth on March 17, 2008, 12:23:16 AM
I guess I'm easily bored. When his songs go on so, so, so, so long I start to get sleepy.

I have the deepest respect for whoever it is that has to play the shaker for Fela Kuti, or for any afrobeat band. They never seem to lose it.


I love the long afrobeat stuff though. I'm a giant hippie.



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Post by: TL on March 17, 2008, 10:17:21 AM

I love the long afrobeat stuff though. I'm a giant hippie.


I like the first sentence of the above quote.

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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 17, 2008, 11:24:20 AM
I like imagining Beth as a nine-foot tall hippie.