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Title: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: TremblingEagle on March 13, 2008, 10:51:02 AM
You think they'll make it?
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Jason on March 13, 2008, 11:19:41 AM
no
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: todd on March 13, 2008, 11:21:28 AM
They've had a lot of people sign up already, so I'd say: yes.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: TremblingEagle on March 13, 2008, 11:23:06 AM
They've had a lot of people sign up already, so I'd say: yes.

what do you mean by a lot?

Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Josh on March 13, 2008, 11:23:27 AM
what do you mean by "make it"?
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Matt on March 13, 2008, 11:24:05 AM
Who do they think they are, the Kid From Brooklyn? Now that's worth paying for.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: todd on March 13, 2008, 11:28:02 AM
They've had a lot of people sign up already, so I'd say: yes.

what do you mean by a lot?

Oh, I don't have any inside information. But from the thread on AST, theres a few pages of people saying "I signed up!" So I imagine it's going well so far.

I suspect they'll lose about half of their listenership, but the other half paying $20 is pretty good money.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: TremblingEagle on March 13, 2008, 11:40:06 AM
They've had a lot of people sign up already, so I'd say: yes.

what do you mean by a lot?

Oh, I don't have any inside information. But from the thread on AST, theres a few pages of people saying "I signed up!" So I imagine it's going well so far.

I suspect they'll lose about half of their listenership, but the other half paying $20 is pretty good money.

ah, I see
I wonder why all the shows are so secretive with their podcast numbers.

Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Andy on March 13, 2008, 11:44:50 AM
I don't see them getting half their listenership.  I could see half of their hardcore fans but what they're  doing will turn of the casual fan.

although, it will be interesting to see.  I don't like the implications if the succeed. but, I like free shit.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Josh on March 13, 2008, 11:48:51 AM
I imagine they'll lose more like 75-90% of their current listenership. Jesse Thorn said that about 1% of his podcast listeners donate anything.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Martin on March 13, 2008, 11:51:24 AM
Well we wish them a lot of luck.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Richard_From_CHI on March 13, 2008, 11:52:53 AM
Apologies for being unhip, but what is NNF?
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Josh on March 13, 2008, 11:54:30 AM
the podcasted Jimmy Pardo vehicle, Never (Not) (http://www.friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php/topic,2007.0.html) Funny
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Martin on March 13, 2008, 11:54:44 AM
Never Not Funny, a podcast hosted by Jimmy Pardo and produced by Matt Belknap.

www.pardcast.com
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: todd on March 13, 2008, 11:59:55 AM
I imagine they'll lose more like 75-90% of their current listenership. Jesse Thorn said that about 1% of his podcast listeners donate anything.

Your number is probably closer.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: ericluxury on March 13, 2008, 12:42:25 PM
They have probably between 5-10k listeners, so if 500 listeners pay, thats still $10,000, which while not being a full time salary for two people, is quite a bit of money for essentially talking for an hour and change a week.  It's at the least a good supplement. 

I think that they will get more than 10% though. Jesse asks for donations which is I can't see people caring about as much. Also, his show is the kind of show that gets the more casual listener.

As for what it portends for content on the future, it seems like every podcast that I've listened to either begins charging or making money in some way or ends up petering out.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Andy on March 13, 2008, 12:49:11 PM
are donations to jesse tax deductable?  I wonder how hard it would be to make it so?
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Josh on March 13, 2008, 01:00:08 PM
are donations to jesse tax deductable?  I wonder how hard it would be to make it so?
No; I dunno, probably harder than not declaring it at all.


Eric Luxury, I like your math and I hope it works out.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Omar on March 13, 2008, 01:00:24 PM
If Tom ever asked for donations, I think he would get about $94,000.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Andy on March 13, 2008, 01:02:34 PM
prove it.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: yesno on March 13, 2008, 01:12:40 PM
I was thinking of paying for NNF.  But then I realized that I have way too much free stuff to listen to, some of which I enjoy a great deal more than that podcast.  Plus I haven't gotten through the Best Show archives.  I have plenty of laffs already on my plate.

I probably spent more on the Best Show by pledging, though, than I have for any other single media product. I'm starting to make up for all the illegal stuff I've downloaded, I guess.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Andy on March 13, 2008, 01:19:21 PM
so paying for something you enjoy somehow pays off a debt for something you have stolen from somebody else?
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Andy on March 13, 2008, 01:20:43 PM
why am I such a dickbag?
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: yesno on March 13, 2008, 02:08:25 PM
dickbag-ness aside, it's hard to see what else you can do to make up for years of pirating besides starting to pay for stuff you like.  It's not like I'm going to mail a check to King Crimson for that mega-torrent I downloaded and deleted.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Forrest on March 13, 2008, 02:51:37 PM
Even though I once podcasted NNF, I could never make it through an entire episode without getting really bored or annoyed. I really don't know who is coughing up cash to listen.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Andy on March 13, 2008, 03:08:13 PM
Even though I once podcasted NNF, I could never make it through an entire episode without getting really bored or annoyed. I really don't know who is coughing up cash to listen.
I wasn't going to be the first to mention it, but I tried to listen a couple of times and could not get into it.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Gagneaux on March 13, 2008, 05:04:50 PM
I really enjoyed the first season with Mike Schmidt (I may be spelling that wrong). Now, it really depends on who the guest is. Some shows I think are pretty good (with PFT, Maria Bamford, Todd Glass) and the others I just can't get into. I certainly don't plan on paying for a whole season of NNF. I think that there will be an option to buy individual episodes. If there's a guest I'm into, I might buy that specific show.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Dorvid Barnas on March 13, 2008, 05:55:38 PM
I think it was a mistake, but I wish them the best of luck.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on March 13, 2008, 06:03:22 PM
No way am I paying to listen to those dudes bullshit for an hour at a time.  They're giving away 20 min. for free, right?  Experience has taught me that there's about 20 min. of amusement per show in the first place.

That show always makes me feel like I'm sitting in a room with a white carpet, wearing sweatpants and socks, eating hot wings on a Sunday.  In other words: Cheap Thrills.

NNF: It's Ovah!
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: TremblingEagle on March 13, 2008, 08:16:17 PM
you better be pretty damn entertaining to make people come out of pocket
for a podcast. I'm interested to see what happens.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on March 19, 2008, 08:43:11 PM
I had a twinge of regret for not diving in to the pay format yesterday, but today I see their first pay-to-play guest is McDonalds-bringing unfunny man Dave Holmes.

Now the regret is ova.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: TremblingEagle on March 19, 2008, 08:58:42 PM
I had a twinge of regret for not diving in to the pay format yesterday, but today I see their first pay-to-play guest is McDonalds-bringing unfunny man Dave Holmes.

Now the regret is ova.

I had NO clue that guy was gay
not that it matters at all
just interesting it came out on a podcast
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Jixby Phillips on March 20, 2008, 02:05:48 AM
Having had a hernia operation recently and a lot of down time to listen to stuff, I've gotten hardcore into the show. I've pretty much exhausted season 2 in a couple weeks. I enjoy it a lot! I'm a fan of people talking, I guess.

I'm not sure I'm willing to pay for this just yet, I've only been a fan for half a month, most of which was spent on vicodin. I think I'd be more willing to pay 20 bucks when the whole season is complete, kinda like how they sell season 1. Or, go halvsies with another reluctant fan. In fact they should start a campaign to get less enthusiastic people to sign up for it. It's half-stealing but they'd probably get more subscriptions that way.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 20, 2008, 06:47:02 AM
dickbag-ness aside, it's hard to see what else you can do to make up for years of pirating besides starting to pay for stuff you like.  It's not like I'm going to mail a check to King Crimson for that mega-torrent I downloaded and deleted.

Mr Fripp and his riding crop will see you now.
Title: Re: NNF going to a pay format
Post by: Josh on March 20, 2008, 09:35:32 AM
hope you're doin alright jixby (you're cool)