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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: argyle on March 21, 2008, 01:52:49 PM
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Just heard the podcast for this week. Ugh. I hope that Steve guy never calls in ever again. He's obnoxious and that guy Nate Hartley was awful too. Maybe this has been talked about a lot, but I just felt compelled to write this in. Steve is running the engine way too high...
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Damn son, it's a callout! Diss! Diss! Diss!
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I've been suspicious of Steve from the very first time he called in, man. Forget Rookie of the Year -- is the pool of new callers this season so weak that Tom is really thinking about giving that oily LA back-slapper ROY?
Listen, I don't want to start a flame-war, but that call, eh...Nate Hartley...I felt like I was getting a hard-sell for some questionable property in an old toxic waste zone.
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The whole thing did kinda strike me as a human sacrifice-type deal.
Right now, Steve's okay in my book; it's Nate Hartley who should be banned. Constant shameless self-promotion? Gay slurs? Despicable.
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Sweet GOMP though!
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I just heard a (negative) review of Drillbit Taylor. I didn't realize it was about a bodyguard of children! That makes that whole call seem like viral marketing. But I can't remember if Tom instigated the bodyguard joke or Steve did (or Nate did). I liked the call from Julie's husband more. Like crimestick points out, Steve did provide us with the fixings for a celebrity GOMP, which is not to be discounted.
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Was he knowingly providing a celebrity Gomp? Or, was it just part of some marketing thing that they cooked up this week...Hartley was definitely worse than Steve, but I say guilt by association.
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Was he knowingly providing a celebrity Gomp? Or, was it just part of some marketing thing that they cooked up this week...Hartley was definitely worse than Steve, but I say guilt by association.
Oh, there's no doubt that Steve thought he was killing two birds with one stone: 1) He brings Tom a "star of tomorrow," thus increasing his chances for Rookie Of The Year 2008, and 2) He helps Nate Hartley get the word out about his (presumably) terrible movie. I don't think Steve had any notion that Nate would be GOMPed. I wonder what Steve'll do next week to make up for the lost ground.
If I were to give Steve an award now, I'd probably give him either Worst Caller or Most Delusional. I still like the guy, though.
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. I wonder what Steve'll do next week to make up for the lost ground.
Let's hope it doesn't involve a dead fish!
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It's usually funny when you can tell Tom is kind of playing along with them. Those were real people, and that's what freaks me out.
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I totally didn't understand the context of any of that exchange
funny how much of the show I don't get
yet I still find it entertaining
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I gotta check the boards more often.
In defense of both my subpar call and Nate's behavior on the phone, I offer the following.
A) I was driving us to the Drillbit Taylor premiere. So, Nate's nerves were pretty cranked up (it probably didn't help that I told him of Tom's involvement with Monk, as that is one of Nate's favorite shows), and I was distracted by negotiating a car full of kids through Los Angeles rush hour traffic.
B) Yes, I really do work as Nate's bodyguard/set nanny (laugh all you want, I too find it hilarious) and have been working with him since before he got the part in Drillbit Taylor. The fact that I'm his bodyguard and he's in a movie about a kid with a bodyguard is purely coincidental. Nate's mom works and the law dictates that minors have a legal guardian on set with them at all times.
C) As for the "shameless self promotion and gay slurs" ... He's a 16 year old kid. When he gets nervous, he goes for laughs. But as a 16 year old kid, he went for something that would make his classmates laugh. It backfired. Nate's a very talented, very well behaved kid. He'd just been in "Nate Show" mode the whole day, and he unknowingly tried to bring the Nate Show to the Best Show ... And we know what happens when someone tries that brand of shenanigans. They can't all be Petey.
D) I had warned Nate of the possibility of a GOMP, but his nerves just got the better of him, I was too distracted to help steer the call in the right direction, and so we were GOMPed.
E) We in no way intended to be GOMPed, nor did we agree to being GOMPed ahead of time as some sort of ploy (is ploy the word I'm looking for?) for a Celebrity GOMP. I really don't plan my calls that far ahead. You've heard me on the show, I'm usually like "Hi Tom, here's my input." Then I'm like "Ha ha! Duuuuuuuh," for the next five minutes.
F) As for me running too hot ... I'm one of only two nominees. Somebody's gotta be the front runner. I know Tom's called me an Eddie Haskel, and said that I will "implode" and that I'll probably threaten him before the year's up. But really, I just call in and try to be as in the moment as possible. If Tom does something to make me laugh, I'm going to laugh.
Bottom line: I love the show, I thought Tom would get a kick out of the call, but I have a bad habbit of not having an exit strategy.
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E) We in no way intended to be GOMPed, nor did we agree to being GOMPed ahead of time as some sort of ploy (is ploy the word I'm looking for?) for a Celebrity GOMP. I really don't plan my calls that far ahead. You've heard me on the show, I'm usually like "Hi Tom, here's my input." Then I'm like "Ha ha! Duuuuuuuh," for the next five minutes.
If you are seriously suggesting that GOMPs are staged, and worked out in advance. all of your future GOMPS need to come at Mike's hand, not Tom's.
Sheesh.
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E) We in no way intended to be GOMPed, nor did we agree to being GOMPed ahead of time as some sort of ploy (is ploy the word I'm looking for?) for a Celebrity GOMP. I really don't plan my calls that far ahead. You've heard me on the show, I'm usually like "Hi Tom, here's my input." Then I'm like "Ha ha! Duuuuuuuh," for the next five minutes.
If you are seriously suggesting that GOMPs are staged, and worked out in advance. all of your future GOMPS need to come at Mike's hand, not Tom's.
Sheesh.
I would buy a CD of Mike GOMPs.
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Dave, I think Steve was trying to say that he and the kid hadn't planned on trying to get GOMPed, not that they worked something out with Tom.
Who is the second contender for rookie of the year? Can't recall.
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Dave, I am not suggesting that any GOMPs are staged. I'm merely defending against statements made above, that imply that the GOMP I incurred may have been staged, or at the very least that I set out to be GOMPed.
I am aiming to acheive Super Caller status one day, and getting GOMPed is certainly not condusive to that goal.
And Sarah, first of all, Thank you! And second, if I'm not mistaken, the other nominee for Rookie of the Year is Julie from Cincinatti.
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That is a lot of ambition, son. Maybe take up a craft, keep the mind busy?
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Dave, I am not suggesting that any GOMPs are staged. I'm merely defending against statements made above, that imply that the GOMP I incurred may have been staged, or at the very least that I set out to be GOMPed.
I am aiming to acheive Super Caller status one day, and getting GOMPed is certainly not condusive to that goal.
And Sarah, first of all, Thank you! And second, if I'm not mistaken, the other nominee for Rookie of the Year is Julie from Cincinatti.
This is actually kind of awesome. Steve, when negotiating the waters of the Friends Of Tom, may I suggest some reading material?
(http://www.author-robertgreene.com/images/home-the-48-laws-of-power.jpg)
The 48 Laws of Power
Law 1: Never Outshine the Master
Law 16: Use Absence to Increase Respect and Honor
Law 21: Play a Sucker to Catch a Sucker: Seem Dumber Than Your Mark
Law 37: Create Compelling Spectacles
Law 47: Do Not Go Past the Mark You Aimed For: In Victory, Know When to Stop
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The week after my awards show call, Tom mentioned the possibility that I could emerge as a ROY candididate while talking to masterofsparks. Perhaps I will let Big Steve and Julie continue to implode for a few more weeks and then begin the campaign.
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All this jockeying for Rookie-of-the-year is some Lord of the Flies shit for the FOT. And I love it.
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It'd be funnier if you just banned Steve and invited Nate Hartley back on the show. Let him become ROTY. He certainly wont become a movie star after the Drillbit Taylor reviews...
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Earlier in the year, Tom said I was a nominee for "Breakout Caller of 2007 (sic)."
I have no idea if this the same category as ROY. It may not even be a category at all...just a way of getting me off the phone.
Also, if it is the same category as ROY, I'm not so psyched, because I do not want to compete against Omar for anything.
But as for Steve: Queensbury rules, junior. :-*
-Jon
P.S. Just kidding, Steve. And anyway, this is all pretty much the definition of a "tempest in a teapot."
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I'm behind Steve! He does come on strong and Eddie Haskell-y, but that might just be him. I had the same situation with my roommate in college...he came on strong at first and seemed fake, but that was honestly just him. I put Steve in the same category.
Do it, Steve from Hollywood.
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Where's this Hollywood place you people keep talking about? Is it near Weird-o-wood?
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Where's this Hollywood place you people keep talking about? Is it near Weird-o-wood?
Just south of Hollyweird.
I'm pro-Steve too. I enjoyed that last call.
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...if I'm not mistaken, the other nominee for Rookie of the Year is Julie from Cincinatti.
This is a rogues gallery of rookies. How exciting.
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Just saying thanks for the support, you guys!
As for the rest of ya's ... Attack me all you want, but leave the kid alone, or I'm gonna have to polish up my chain.
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I like Steve, too. As show moments go, that GOMP was a pretty good one and Steve made it happen. I hope Nate didn't take it too hard.
That said, there's definitely virtue in learning when to tone it down a bit and lay low. Two words as a precautionary tale: Jack Black.
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That said, there's definitely virtue in learning when to tone it down a bit and lay low. Two words as a precautionary tale: Jack Black.
Are you kidding? When Kung Fu Panda tells the audience to turn off their cell phones at the movie theaters, he has me--and everyone else in the theater-- in stitches! "I'm lookin' at you, with the texting!" hehehe
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Now I'm in trouble ... But I really don't remember referring to American Idol as just "Idol." But I would've GOMP'd me too after that.
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Heres hoping Nina Hartley calls in some time. 8) ;) :) :o :-X :-* ::)
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Now that The Wire is concluded, Steve's (Hi Steve) hard road to potential victory or burn-out is the dominant procedural drama in my life.
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Heres hoping Nina Hartley calls in some time. 8) ;) :) :o :-X :-* ::)
I keep reading Nate as Nina, too. We're in the gutter.
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Isn't she that woman that used to appear in the Polaroid ads with James Garner?
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/gaughin/01-in-hartley-spot.jpg)
I'm sorry, I just don't get the fascination.
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Mr. Spock saw her appeal.
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My dark horse favorite for Rookie of the Year (if he starts calling up more often) is Mike from Mahwah.
As heard on Jan. 15, 2008 1:14:00 (Getting to know you).
All the same, keep at it, Steve. Your blunders and successes are a hilarious nail-biting thriller.
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I don't know if he'll ever call back, but I liked the guy from last night's show who did "I love you...but" for Al Pacino. If he can maintain the same energy without imploding or swearing on the air, he could be it.
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Isn't she that woman that used to appear in the Polaroid ads with James Garner?
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/gaughin/01-in-hartley-spot.jpg)
I'm sorry, I just don't get the fascination.
That's Mariette Hartley, Dave. Here's Nina Hartley:
(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/nina-hartley-2007-avn-awards-red-carpet-ZtRnud.jpg)
I doubt you've seen any of her 'films'.
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Her boobs are like 3 feet apart. That is so disturbing.
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Her boobs are like 3 feet apart. That is so disturbing.
no kidding, egh
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At the least, you may have seen her in Boogie Nights.
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That's Mariette Hartley, Dave. Here's Nina Hartley:
(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/nina-hartley-2007-avn-awards-red-carpet-ZtRnud.jpg)
I doubt you've seen any of her 'films'.
(http://kickthebobo.com//070309145753_0001-0208-3008-2717.jpg)
*I think it might've been Margaret Cho who alluded to this in her standup (credit where it's due)
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I am blissfully unaware of anything that happens in a Margaret Cho standup routine.
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Then let me end your bliss by telling you that there is a lot of Cho shrieking in her mothers voice (a very strong Korean accented woman) 'Ass Master!'
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At the least, you may have seen her in Boogie Nights.
There's a great line flub in that movie involving her that made it to the final cut. When her husband sees her getting gangbanged in the driveway he storms into the house and says "That's my wife out there with an ass in her cock." I love that line.
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Then let me end your bliss by telling you that there is a lot of Cho shrieking in her mothers voice (a very strong Korean accented woman) 'Ass Master!'
She's also hopped on the burlesque bandwagon against the wishes of every human being ever.
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Now I'm in trouble ... But I really don't remember referring to American Idol as just "Idol." But I would've GOMP'd me too after that.
Steve, Just heard the podcast and I'm still pulling for you. Don't give up.
Also, I think another ROY-candidate should be the NPR lady from Chicago. Friends putting everything into a blog and expecting everyone to keep up? Excellent response to the topic, Miss NPR.
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Now I'm in trouble ... But I really don't remember referring to American Idol as just "Idol." But I would've GOMP'd me too after that.
Steve, Just heard the podcast and I'm still pulling for you. Don't give up.
Also, I think another ROY-candidate should be the NPR lady from Chicago. Friends putting everything into a blog and expecting everyone to keep up? Excellent response to the topic, Miss NPR.
I'm pretty sure Miss NPR = Liz Noise.
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Excellent response to the topic, Miss NCPR.
There's a great line flub in that movie involving her that made it to the final cut.
Was that a flub?
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There's a great line flub in that movie involving her that made it to the final cut.
Was that a flub?
No.
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There's a great line flub in that movie involving her that made it to the final cut.
Was that a flub?
No.
Ah, I see.
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Thanks, gravy boat, and all other supporters!!! Tigers are flyin' high now!
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...the law dictates that miners have a legal guardian...
This is why the ACLU get such a bad name. Requiring miners to have lawyers drives the cost of coal up.
High Coal Prices = Higher Electricity Bills for Everyone.
Wake Up, People!
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That is Liz Noise, and no hard feelings, Steve, but she's got my vote. Her calls are awesome.
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Uh oh ...
Oh man ...
What could this mean?
Find out Tuesday!!!*
*I do not mean this coming Tuesday. The show will be busy enough with election results. Should be a total classic!