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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: senorcorazon on March 26, 2008, 10:15:44 AM
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There exists a set of people that, although being nice enough and not doing anything especially grievous, deserve a trip to the Hate Pit but not to spend an eternity with Saget and his ilk.
My suggestion? Tracey Ullman. Seems like a nice enough person and isn't a supreme jerk, but anytime she does one of her "voices" I cringe.
Who else?
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Maybe Ellen Degenres? She seems like a sweet lady, but her daytime show is supremely irritating.
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My suggestion? Tracey Ullman. Seems like a nice enough person and isn't a supreme jerk, but anytime she does one of her "voices" I cringe.
Ah, so you listened to Fresh Air yesterday too, eh? Well, that little interview is hardly Mild-Disliking-Pit-worthy...That's full on HATE PIT material. If you want your blood to boil, check this out:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89037585
Like Robin Williams, but ten times as unfunny.
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My suggestion? Tracey Ullman. Seems like a nice enough person and isn't a supreme jerk, but anytime she does one of her "voices" I cringe.
Ah, so you listened to Fresh Air yesterday too, eh? Well, that little interview is hardly Mild-Disliking-Pit-worthy...That's full on HATE PIT material. If you want your blood to boil, check this out:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89037585
Like Robin Williams, but ten times as unfunny.
ugh. absolutely.
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I haven't listened yet, but I'm assuming Tracy Ullman does all kinds of cutesy voices and Terri Gross fawns over her.
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That's what Terri Gross does, right?
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Unless you imply that Terri Gross spends time fontasizing about you
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I'm listening to the interview right now, and Tracy lost me when she referred to herself as an old soul.
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I would say that NPR and public radio as a whole are in my mild disliking pit...the entire operation is so mild-mannered that it can't generate much hatred beyond mild dislike...
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I'm listening to the interview right now, and Tracy lost me when she referred to herself as an old soul.
Ugh. I can't stand it when anybody does that. It's just a cowardly way of saying that you haven't taken the time to learn how a computer works.
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That's what Terri Gross does, right?
Terri Gross is just terrible. Ugh. She gets good guests sometimes, but really does sometimes ask the most inane questions. Jesse Thorn. Howard Stern, when he's not being gross. Tom. Great interviewers. Leno. Gross. Terrible.
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I like Terri Gross. I don't always agree with what she finds interesting, sure, but she's very often interviewing someone I'm interested in. She also ranges from pop culture to political and economic stories. With all of NPR you take the good with the bad, and on NPR she's the good. I find her interviewing style a lot less annoying than Jessee Thorn's style, who also has a lot of good guests. Some of his guests (Simon Rich, Miranda July...) make me much angrier than people I've heard Terry Gross interview.
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I love Miranda July, and will chain-fight to the death for her right to do whatever the hell she dreams up next.
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Sarah Jessica Parker.
She could fall into a number of topics: "It's Ovah", "Wouldn't Want to Be Chained To In the Swamp (sic)", etc.
How is it that people think she has talent? I mean, I'm glad to see a female Jew like myself so successful, but really. Something in her voice just gets me all angryful.
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I love Miranda July, and will chain-fight to the death for her right to do whatever the hell she dreams up next.
Fascinating.
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I love Miranda July, and will chain-fight to the death for her right to do whatever the hell she dreams up next.
You're on, friend.
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Wait, Scraps, how big are you?
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I like Terri Gross. I don't always agree with what she finds interesting, sure, but she's very often interviewing someone I'm interested in. She also ranges from pop culture to political and economic stories. With all of NPR you take the good with the bad, and on NPR she's the good. I find her interviewing style a lot less annoying than Jessee Thorn's style, who also has a lot of good guests. Some of his guests (Simon Rich, Miranda July...) make me much angrier than people I've heard Terry Gross interview.
Then you must like Jazz! Not jazz. Jazz! That's what Terri likes.
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Margaret Atwood is walking a thin line. She's been in my mild disliking pit until recently--her reading voice is terrible and she's kind of a jerk, whatever--but the Longpen (http://www.longpen.com/index.html (http://www.longpen.com/index.html)) might just be her ticket down to the hate pit.
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Mike Nelson's in my mild dislike pit -- his MST3K and RiffTrax stuff is funny, but the fact that he's hanging out with lame unfunny right-wing creeps like James Lileks and Hugh Hewitt makes me sad. Also, this. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1145333/posts)
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Wow. Maybe that's why the funny host quit MST3K.
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I love Miranda July, and will chain-fight to the death for her right to do whatever the hell she dreams up next.
I'm with you on this one, Dave!
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i really like the way "Hate Ditch" rolls off the tongue. can we consider going back to this terminology?
please.
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Hate Vestibule?
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Irk Moat.
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whoever started or posted the topic about where to go in europe
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Mike Nelson's in my mild dislike pit -- his MST3K and RiffTrax stuff is funny, but the fact that he's hanging out with lame unfunny right-wing creeps like James Lileks and Hugh Hewitt makes me sad. Also, this. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1145333/posts)
Fuck that guy. I'm actually relieved to discover this, because it was a struggle to try and like him in the first place. But I like how a guy who talks to funny robot puppets on t.v. and makes fun of old sci fi movies with them is going to tell us how he's displeased with the Democrats and their trend towards a Silly America.
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I always preferred Joel.
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This dunce might have made it into my Hate Pit if she had some semblance of a personality.
(http://kickthebobo.com//KatVonD50.jpg)
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I officially throw Dave Eggers in the Irk Moat (formerly the Mild Disliking Pit). I can't hate him entirely because he did create an afterschool program in places around the country, wrote some okay books, etc etc. However, this whole "let's let the guy do everything", including curate a show at a gallery in New York, is highly annoying. Enjoy the mildly gritty hummus and slightly bland cheese on the welcome platter in the moat, Mr. Eggers.
And yes, I understand that this opens me up to a lot of McSweeney's related bashing. So good ahead.
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I always preferred Joel.
The Mike vs. Joel debate permeates another dank, dorky corner of the internet! Joel is definitely the more likable of the two and came up with the brilliant (?) idea for the show in the first place, but Mike is wittier and had better comic timing so those episodes hold up better for me. I absolutely do not watch any of those pitiful host segments after Frank and Dr. F left though. Nor should anyone.
It's weird that all of the MST3K vets have grouped into competing movie heckling factions now. Has anyone seen that Cinematic Titanic thing Joel is doing?
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Has anyone seen that Cinematic Titanic thing Joel is doing?
Something about that $15.94 price point really puts me off. I like lots of jokes as much as the next guy, but you'd have to pay me about $10.00 to pay $15.94 for that business. Sorry, Joel.
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I always preferred Joel.
The Mike vs. Joel debate permeates another dank, dorky corner of the internet! Joel is definitely the more likable of the two and came up with the brilliant (?) idea for the show in the first place, but Mike is wittier and had better comic timing so those episodes hold up better for me. I absolutely do not watch any of those pitiful host segments after Frank and Dr. F left though. Nor should anyone.
Years ago, my boyfriend played drums for a band called Bring Back Joel. I think this was at the height of the MST3K Mike/Joel debates.
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whoever started or posted the topic about where to go in europe
What is this, FOTChan?
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This dunce might have made it into my Hate Pit if she had some semblance of a personality.
(http://kickthebobo.com//KatVonD50.jpg)
I can't hate someone unless I know her name. Or stalk her.
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This dunce might have made it into my Hate Pit if she had some semblance of a personality.
(http://kickthebobo.com//KatVonD50.jpg)
I can't hate someone unless I know her name. Or stalk her.
I can. Kat von D.
Didn't a someone here have some dirt on her that made me dislike her even more?
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also, have you seen her boyfriend? SHEESH. and not that i like kat von d, but she could throw a rock and hit someone who doesn't look half as ridiculous as that man.
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Has anyone seen that Cinematic Titanic thing Joel is doing?
Something about that $15.94 price point really puts me off. I like lots of jokes as much as the next guy, but you'd have to pay me about $10.00 to pay $15.94 for that business. Sorry, Joel.
Cinematic Titanic is pretty decent, but I'm not sure if the price is right. We watched it in 10 minute spurts and enjoyed it, but felt like watching it straight through would have been a bore.
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I REALLY liked Cinematic Titanic's Oozing Skull, but with the horrible 'packaging' (you get it in an envelope like Netflix--Boo!) and price, I kinda felt like a customer at the Burger Barn. Y'know, offsetting their costs on to me.
And this is the first I saw of Mike's specific comments. I'm certainly not ecstatic, but it's not like he said he has a crush on Ann Coulter and has a Dittohead bumper sticker.
And they keep the politics out of their stuff (having watched countless hours of MST and Rifftrax, I am quite certain I have not been swayed to the right).
Even the Rifftrax political ads don't knock either side for their politics.
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Has anyone seen that Cinematic Titanic thing Joel is doing?
I have a very soft spot for MST3k, but only the Joel years. And of those years, really only like 1990 to 1992, before the Comedy Central Turkey Day stuff. As a kid the whole experience of the show was somehow really magical at the time. When Joel left I was entering high school, and I stopped watching the show when Mike came along. Mike isn't funny to me. Mike was never funny...to me. ...No "debate" as such.
When I listened to the Sound of Young America I was really enthused about the prospect of Joel coming back, and especially Frank, because he floored me constantly in those old episodes. "Black is slimming!" etc.
So when I bought and recieved the Cinematic Titanic dvd in the mail I was excited, and I put it off till I had time to watch it, and when I did, oh no, ohhh no no no. I never really laughed out loud at MST3k, I don't think anyone did, right? But this was indeed a tanker. No good. None of the fun of MST3k with the plot devices of mad scientists and a guy trapped in space etc, just a bad movie with not that funny people watching it with you. Too bad. I mean there were a few funny parts, sure but on the whole, no. And I can't imagine buying another one for $15. As referenced earlier, it's literally a dvd in an envelope with your fucking address on it. Creativity goes out the window when you're trying to resurrect your career, Joel? If they believed in it they'd have at least designed a simple jewel case for it.
My rating: Big Fucking Sigh.
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That's sad to hear, Scraps. The rollout for this seemed kind of chintzy before I heard about the envelopes but Frank and Trace's involvment seemed vaguely promising. I was also sort of hypnotized as a kid by the show's mix of odd whimsy, B-movie weirdness and stoic Midwestern sarcasm, which were completely revelatory to my then-depressingly bland senses.
As for today, it's tough to sit all the way through a Joel episode on the rare occasion I do watch one. I honestly laugh more at the Mike-era episodes, where the charm quickly dissipated and the whole enterprise slid into a smug zingfest, but the quips became much sharper and more durable. Catching up w/ some Sci-Fi era episodes like "Girl in Gold Boots" and "Soultaker" recently has given me lots o' laughs.