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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: TremblingEagle on April 03, 2008, 05:08:35 AM
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(http://haacked.com/images/RastafariFlag.jpg)
(http://www.musicv2.com/bank/images/1560_RASTA_LION1_artist_page.jpg)
(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/56630643.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE261A2B129DEF8AEBA40A659CEC4C8CB6)
vs.
(http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-countries-flags/jamaica-flag.gif)
(http://www.photograph-london.com/london-photos/200501530.jpg)
should I even bother with this?
Is there ANY chance anybody here gives a damn and wants me to expound on it?
it gets kooky
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE5EfklQiDk[/youtube]
but it doesn't stop reggae from being big in the oddest places (to me anyway)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8jKnLwjiaI[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjl5jz4yCkA[/youtube]
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whoever designed the reggae flag needs to learn how to draw a lion. but it's probably one of the few flags designed while stoned, so i'll give him a pass.
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It's an Ethiopian flag.
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face
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In response to the first YouTube video:
Dear Sizzla,
I think you should follow all of Deuteronomy to the letter. Go ahead, bash rape victims! Let the men stone them if she doesn't scream loud enough!
Sounds like a good plan!
Love,
Laurie
PS: Make sure you keep your ho's quiet! God doesn't like women so much, especially when those bitches talk.
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Videos no longer available! What happened?
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I'm understanding "Cleanliness is Godliness" as "keep your weiner out of poo-holes" in this respect.
I thought it was common knowledge the Rastafarianism is total kooksville. Wait, there's an esoteric aspect to a religion that worships some Ethiopian Emperor as a messianic figure?
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I'm understanding "Cleanliness is Godliness" as "keep your weiner out of poo-holes" in this respect.
I thought it was common knowledge the Rastafarianism is total kooksville. Wait, there's an esoteric aspect to a religion that worships some Ethiopian Emperor as a messianic figure?
Oh, now I get it. One of those deals.
Yeah, just because I like reggae or enjoy movies like Rockers doesn't mean I'm about to go ride the lion to Zion. I also thought this was common among most "typical" (sane?) reggae fans. The music is good, but that's where I end it.
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You've got to admit Culture were 100% dead-on with that "two sevens clash" prediction though.
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You've got to admit Culture were 100% dead-on with that "two sevens clash" prediction though.
Didn't they re-master the record and release it on 7-7-07? THREE SEVENS CLASH! They upped the ante.
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Sounds like you guys already know.
thought I was teaching you something.
The "reggae" or more appropriately the Rastafarian flag is the old style Ethiopian flag because
rastas have an affinity for Ethiopia's old monarch. Not all reggae artist are Rastafarian but some of the more prominent ones are.
So a lot of their symbols have become ubiquitous in the subculture.
I know it was just a comedy bit......but "reggae" pills are not too far off the mark.
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In response to the first YouTube video:
Dear Sizzla,
I think you should follow all of Deuteronomy to the letter. Go ahead, bash rape victims! Let the men stone them if she doesn't scream loud enough!
Sounds like a good plan!
Love,
Laurie
PS: Make sure you keep your ho's quiet! God doesn't like women so much, especially when those bitches talk.
Rastafarianism is a batshit crazy belief system but they really are harmless
kind of a boutique cult offspring of some hippy messianic nonsense from the 1960's mixed with pan Africanism/black empowerment.
It's the homophobia and chauvinism of the overall Caribbean culture (98% Christian) that has the real teeth. I feel safe saying that because I grew up in it.
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it's obvious that most non-blacks wouldn't see much appeal in rastafarianism.. but to label it a "kooksville" "religion" is pretty off base
it's not really a religion.. the most promanent aspects involve fighting opression & embracing african culture/history/etc. and respecting your own body & mind.
sure.. there's the worship of selassie & marcus garvey but overall they're much much much much less stringent & dogmatic than any sect of judiasm, islam or christianity. more about finding yourself & your history than surrendering to any supernatural explainations, rules or schedules. there's the ganja thing.. but alcohol's always on the flipside of that coin
the rest of the world could probably benefit from eating an ital diet & exercising daily
and as above.. homophobia & misogyny is a jamaican cultural issue and has absolutely nothing to do with rastafarianism
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on a side note.. didn't mean to get so serious on my first post :o
the jeep cherokee phone call was incredible
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I didn't mean to shit on rastafarianism. I know nearly nothing about it. To paraphrase Paul F. Tompkins: I retract my kooksville argument. I am tough but fair!
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Rastafarians believe that they will never die as long as they remain true and faithful to Selassie. When death does come, "it is always explained away by saying that the subject had departed from the chosen path of Rastafari, had violated some divine precept, and was therefore struck by the mighty power of Jah (Selassie) (Chevannes 203)". It does not matter whether death is by accident, sickness, or by the agency of man. Rastafarians therefore do not even attend funerals.
Journeys are taken quite seriously, if a Rasta were to stub his toe of his left foot at the start of a journey, which is a sign of bad luck, it would be enough to cause him to turn back and start again.
Rastafarian women are usually segregated from the men, particularly if they are menstruating, which Rastas regard to be an unclean state.
Yes, not at all kooky.
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Rastafarian women are usually segregated from the men, particularly if they are menstruating, which Rastas regard to be an unclean state.
They got that directly from the Bible.
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Rastafarian women are usually segregated from the men, particularly if they are menstruating, which Rastas regard to be an unclean state.
They got that directly from the Bible.
Which is why I stand by what I said any close examination of this belief system shows it's just a flavor of messianic Christianity. At the same time I agree with the other poster it really is more harmless than some of the other cults of the same nature by being so anti authoritarian and non hierarchical.
My greater point is the red, gold and green of the old style Ethiopian flag has been adapted into Rastafarian symbology and by influence into reggae music culture in general, and even more broadly into some segments of pop culture. Belt Buckles, tshirts, wrist bands, hats etc. etc.
so "reggae" pills, not that far off.
So, I've done my job and sucked ALL the comedy out of the bit
my work here is done.
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Good job, Ason!
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my point was.. it's not really a "religion" & is by no means on the craziness level of say christian scientology
obviously from an athiest standpoint.. all "religions" are pretty batshit crazy. rastafarianism is just no zanier than any other (& even less in a lot of ways)
anyways..
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I agree ackbar. Rastafarianism isn't much stranger than most denominations here in North America, at least not from my perspective.
Rastafarianism gave us reggae rage. Christian scientists gave us the Christian Science Monitor. I think there's a clear winner.
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my point was.. it's not really a "religion" & is by no means on the craziness level of say christian scientology
obviously from an athiest standpoint.. all "religions" are pretty batshit crazy. rastafarianism is just no zanier than any other (& even less in a lot of ways)
anyways..
Christian Science and Scientology are two VERY different things, you shouldn't confuse the two.
I don't know why exactly you would claim it's not a religion if you agree it's a spiritual belief system.....(a set of beliefs about the spiritual world) no matter how you want to parse it there is no escaping the thing is what it is.
It's interesting... 5 percenters aka the NGE (the wacky afrocentric cult of HipHop) apologists love to make the same excuses for their group. Intellectually dishonest here buddy.
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oops.. i do know of the diff between christian science & scientology.. admittingly i confused the name(s)
the nations of the gods & earths is not a religion either.. so i don't see this conversation really going anywhere lol
it really just comes down arguing the true definition of religion. i hope we can both agree they're not "organized religions"..
or we can just move on? ahah
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oops.. i do know of the diff between christian science & scientology.. admittingly i confused the name(s)
the nations of the gods & earths is not a religion either.. so i don't see this conversation really going anywhere lol
it really just comes down arguing the true definition of religion. i hope we can both agree they're not "organized religions"..
or we can just move on? ahah
Yeah, I'm way past done.