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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Petey on April 06, 2008, 09:34:07 PM
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where the fuck should i go with my brother on a plane in the states? i've never been out of the tristate area. help, FOTs. love, petey
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The bird has flown the nest.
*sniff*
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Branson, MO
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Go somewhere where you won't be too bored. Like you might be bored in San Francisco, and you'll probably be bored in Miami (no offense).
Maybe not as bored in Seattle or Portland?
Hawaii is technically "in the states", maybe that would be the most exotic.
Just suggestions. Like, I'm guessing you want to go somewhere where you can walk around a lot and there's a cool laid-back vibe and the city is easy to navigate on foot and there's a music scene and youngsters and maybe it has some easily accessible nature surrounding the city that you can explore for a day or two?
Maybe SF would be cool though, it's hard to say.
What does everyone else thing?
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Go somewhere in Canada.
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Quebec City is awesome. It's beautiful, historic, and there's amazing food and great places to shop.
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Quebec City is awesome. It's beautiful, historic, and there's amazing food and great places to shop.
Quebec City is lovely, but Montreal is better if you're looking for somewhere where there's always something to do. It's very much the kind of place for walking around and finding cool stuff everywhere--lots of music and art and fun things. Also, if Petey can pass for 18, he can take advantage of one of the millions of fine(-ish) bars and SAQs the city has to offer.
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Northern California! There's so much cool stuff to do, neat weather and beautiful scenery.
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Well, you have a huge city in driving distance so I don't know if going to another big city on the other side of the country would be all that great. I know I wouldn't want to spend tons of money or take a vacation to lay out in the sun unless I was going with a bunch of people. Tough choice. I'd say Vegas if you are over 21.
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You go west, young man.
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Vancouver is fun.
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Vancouver is fun.
Montreal!
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Montreal, Vancouver, and Quebec are not in "the states", people.
Go to Arizona and visit the Grand Canyon and the Petrified Forest.
Go to Arches Nat'l Park in Utah (I still want to do this but I haven't had a chance)
Go to San Francisco and hike for a day in the Muir Woods and spend the rest of your time dodging starving hippies and lunatics. Go to City Lights Books and go record shopping on the Haight, bro!
Oh man, there are so many awesome places to go that aren't cities.
Go to Yosemite.
Go to Big Sur.
Go to San Luis Obispo and stay at the Madonna Inn and visit Hearst Castle for the tackiest experiences of your life (don't stay at a Motel 6).
Go to Southern California and visit visionary artist shrines at the Salton Sea and Watts Towers in L.A. (you'll need a car though).
Don't go to Niagara Falls.
Go to Joshua Tree and pretend you're either Graham Parsons or U2, or Jim Morrison, or in the cast of Zabriske Point. But don't go here in the summer because it'll be so hot you'll feel like you're gonna die and you won't enjoy it.
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PACIFIC NORTHWEST
SOUTHERN CA, LA area: go to the museum of jurassic technology...i think. correct me if im wrong, JJunk.
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(http://kickthebobo.com//410_burning_man.jpg)
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PACIFIC NORTHWEST
SOUTHERN CA, LA area: go to the museum of jurassic technology...i think. correct me if im wrong, JJunk.
You are right.
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thanks for all the suggestions bros and cocos. i was looking at all the parks people mentioned they look pretty radical. it sucks that everything is in arizona and california and all the far west states though because that is the most exppppppppensive tickets.
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might i suggest.. philadelphia.
we have lots of scrapple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrapple) and the rats here aren't as big (or brazen) as new york's.
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try on memphis, petey
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thanks for all the suggestions bros and cocos. i was looking at all the parks people mentioned they look pretty radical. it sucks that everything is in arizona and california and all the far west states though because that is the most exppppppppensive tickets.
the parks and so forth are just ridiculously better out here than anything on the east coast. it helps if you like "bleak." but there is little in the way of cool towns and cities outside of california. Boulder, Tucson, and so forth are nice little oases but barely worth mention compared with what's back east.
Also, everything is so far apart. It's not like you can go to Mount Rushmore, then the Grand Canyon, then Yosemite, then rocky Mountain National Park all in one trip.
(I grew up in NJ but have lived out here in the west (first, Arizona, and now Colorado) through my twenties. The Western US is my favoritist awesomest place ever. And the people are nice. But living out here and staying plugged into culture is only possible through the interwebs. Some nice bands come through here, but there's not much in the way of kultur compared with back east. And we are going to run out of water.)
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thanks for all the suggestions bros and cocos. i was looking at all the parks people mentioned they look pretty radical. it sucks that everything is in arizona and california and all the far west states though because that is the most exppppppppensive tickets.
the parks and so forth are just ridiculously better out here than anything on the east coast. it helps if you like "bleak." but there is little in the way of cool towns and cities outside of california. Boulder, Tucson, and so forth are nice little oases but barely worth mention compared with what's back east.
Also, everything is so far apart. It's not like you can go to Mount Rushmore, then the Grand Canyon, then Yosemite, then rocky Mountain National Park all in one trip.
(I grew up in NJ but have lived out here in the west (first, Arizona, and now Colorado) through my twenties. The Western US is my favoritist awesomest place ever. And the people are nice. But living out here and staying plugged into culture is only possible through the interwebs. Some nice bands come through here, but there's not much in the way of kultur compared with back east. And we are going to run out of water.)
having lived in phoenix for a few years (and made many trips between san diego/LA to el paso, TX), i agree. im not into the west as much as i enjoy the states east of texas, but it is what it is, and worth traveling to.
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Oh shit. I should have mentioned that New Orleans (which I visited like 6 months pre-Katrina) is one of the least normal America-seeming places I've ever visited. If I were to visit a city it would be
1) SF
2) nawlins
Also, Petey, you should consider a road trip at some point. I've driven cross country (NY-LA, NJ-Colorado, NJ-Georgia, Colorado-Georgia, Arizona-Nevada-California) bunches and bunches. It gives you a good feel for the landscape.
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having lived in phoenix for a few years (and made many trips between san diego/LA to el paso, TX), i agree. im not into the west as much as i enjoy the states east of texas, but it is what it is, and worth traveling to.
It's easier to be poor in the West because even cheap accommodations are new and kind of spacious. And it can be easier to get a job. My awful evil experience in Philadelphia trying to work my way through school made me finally flee the east coast.
For what it's worth, job opportunities are probably going to bring me back east.
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having lived in phoenix for a few years (and made many trips between san diego/LA to el paso, TX), i agree. im not into the west as much as i enjoy the states east of texas, but it is what it is, and worth traveling to.
It's easier to be poor in the West because even cheap accommodations are new and kind of spacious. And it can be easier to get a job. My awful evil experience in Philadelphia trying to work my way through school made me finally flee the east coast.
For what it's worth, job opportunities are probably going to bring me back east.
granted, i cant stand being broke no matter where i live, but being broke in a city where i can walk almost anywhere is much easier than the desert where a car is essential due to the sparity/sprawl of suburbs (which multiply exponentially in phx). however, ive had my fill of the south/west coast. i enjoy the five-hours-from-CA/CO/NV location, and it will be missed...
but im moving back east or back to the mid-south.
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Charleston, SC is a darn nice place.
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i think i will choose nawlins this time buds, but i accually cant really decide. haha
"Also, Petey, you should consider a road trip at some point. I've driven cross country (NY-LA, NJ-Colorado, NJ-Georgia, Colorado-Georgia, Arizona-Nevada-California) bunches and bunches. It gives you a good feel for the landscape."
yea im goin on a road trip also but a very short 5 day road trip with my friend to go to a closer state park and to find brothels.
i will eventually make it out to the west, maybe for college.
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I was going to suggest New Orleans! I recently visited in November and loved it. It is definitely unlike other cities. Let me know if you want info on any places (I'm the nerd who reads tour-books cover to cover before going anywhere; an informed traveler is a happy traveler.)
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tell me all the places please. i will hug you. :o
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(Is this the Petey? ZUH!)
I apologize for this being long...
Okay, bear with me using Street names, pull up Google maps!!!
I went to N.O. in November, flew there, so didn't have a car to get around with. We stayed in the "French Quarter" which is the touristy section with the most action. The hotel I stayed at was the Chateau Hotel ( http://www.chateauhotel.com/ ) which was relatively nice but expensive with a VERY small room, and we crammed in 3 people. It was located on Chartres street which is right by Jackson Square (the hub-bub of the French Quarter). Jackson Square has a lot of street artists/performers, cute shops, a cool church, etc (though I don't know how accessible it is by car since it is all cobblestone). Definitely eat at *legendary* Cafe Du Monde (which is on the corner of St. Ann and Decatur on the bottom corner of Jackson Square). This is a very touristy "must do" place, and they only have beignets and cafe au lait (donuts and coffee); it is 24 hours too.
If you keep walking across Jackson Square along Decatur St. that is where most of the touristy gift shops are. Decatur is the street that runs along the Mississippi River.
Johnny's Po Boy Restaurant (slogan: 'even my failures are edible' )(on 511 Louis St) has really good and really cheap "Muffalettas" and "Po-Boys" sandwiches. I love eating cheap local food! 9-4 everyday.
Also, there is a good local tavern, called Coop's Place, that has good food--dinners like around $10-12-- at 1109 Decatur between Ursuline and Gov Nicholls St. (it is the only "Tavern" on the block)
Crescent City Brewery has a good beer sampler thing and the dinner is kinda pricey (15-20 is pricey for me) but i had a coupon that was buy one entree get one half off, i think it was in the back of the Triple A book.
You may see a guy named Windex Pete around. I saw him 3x in 5 days. He rides a bike and has one good eye and is incredibly friendly. Talk to him! He tells great stories.
Bourbon street: It is what it is, but I don't know if you are 21? Petey from the future?? Anyway, it is a bunch of slobs basically but just for shits and giggles check it out on a Fri/Sat night just to experience it.
We took one of those bus tours of the city and it was ALRIGHT. It was great because we wouldn't have gotten to see the rest of the city otherwise, but it also sucked because it was like 6 hours and the driver/tour guide was insane. He was getting really stressed out about traffic and announcing it to the tour group whenever someone cut him off. But--cool places we went on that hellish bus tour:: definitely check out one of the city cemetaries. All the graveyards are above ground (or else it would flood and bodies would float up) so they're like these little creepy villages of mausoleums. They have haunted graveyard tours too. And also, voodoo tours.
Another wonderful sight outside of the quarter is City Park, which is this awesome big park and they probably have a lot going on in the summer. There are also Katrina "damage" tours but that is depressing...
Royal Street, (between Ursuline and St Peter) has a lot of cool art galleries to check out. And, outside of the French Quarter, Magazine Street is the "artier/hipper" section of town.
I don't know if you gamble, but there is a Harrah's on Canal (in the central business district, just outside of the French Quarter). It is boring and grim like all casinos. There is also a pretty good/cheap bbq place on 635 canal: Papa Joes. Notice I'm obsessed with cheap food? I disdain paying $13 for a crappy chain restaurant sandwich.
Umm walking back on Decatur, there is the Mississippi on your right. There is a free ferry that takes you across the river and back but it is pretty boring and there is nothing across the river so you are kind of stuck there until another ferry comes. It is the shanty town across the river...
There is a supposedly good aquarium (I didn't go in) located at Canal Street right on the river (http://www.auduboninstitute.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Directions_Aquarium).
There is the French market Flea market right at the fork of Decatur and North Peters and i think the farmers market that is adjacent may be open by now too.
On Decatur, on the river side, I believe between Conti and Toulouse Streets, there is a restaurant that serves fried pickles and crawfish pastries which were pretty pretty good. They have sign outside for the fried pickles, that is what drew me in.
Also, Preservation Hall is a must, even if you don't love jazz music ( http://www.preservationhall.com/home.php )
http://www.neworleansonline.com/neworleans/ this website should cover everything else!
Oh, and keep in mind the tipping culture is different there then here. Have singles at the ready.
Also, if you go in summer it will be pretty hot/muggy. Bring light clothing and if you can afford it stay somewhere with a pool/ac.
Hope that helps!!! : )
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yes this is the petey, apparently im on a cold streak
thanks for all the info gloria. my plan is to volunteer a couple of days somewhere and then spend all of my money. i hope i can like go volunteer but also go to a hotel in the french section thing. : O know what im sayin?
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