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Title: abortion-art?
Post by: moonshake on April 17, 2008, 03:08:05 PM
Oh Aliza Shvarts, what are we going to do with you?  :-[

http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24513

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For senior, abortion a medium for art, political discourse

Martine Powers
Staff Reporter

Published Thursday, April 17, 2008

Art major Aliza Shvarts '08 wants to make a statement.

Beginning next Tuesday, Shvarts will be displaying her senior art project, a documentation of a nine-month process during which she artificially inseminated herself "as often as possible" while periodically taking abortifacient drugs to induce miscarriages. Her exhibition will feature video recordings of these forced miscarriages as well as preserved collections of the blood from the process.

The goal in creating the art exhibition, Shvarts said, was to spark conversation and debate on the relationship between art and the human body. But her project has already provoked more than just debate, inciting, for instance, outcry at a forum for fellow senior art majors held last week. And when told about Shvarts' project, students on both ends of the abortion debate have expressed shock . saying the project does everything from violate moral code to trivialize abortion.

But Shvarts insists her concept was not designed for "shock value."

"I hope it inspires some sort of discourse," Shvarts said. "Sure, some people will be upset with the message and will not agree with it, but it's not the intention of the piece to scandalize anyone."

The "fabricators," or donors, of the sperm were not paid for their services, but Shvarts required them to periodically take tests for sexually transmitted diseases. She said she was not concerned about any medical effects the forced miscarriages may have had on her body. The abortifacient drugs she took were legal and herbal, she said, and she did not feel the need to consult a doctor about her repeated miscarriages.

Shvarts declined to specify the number of sperm donors she used, as well as the number of times she inseminated herself.

Art major Juan Castillo '08 said that although he was intrigued by the creativity and beauty of her senior project, not everyone was as thrilled as he was by the concept and the means by which she attained the result.

"I really loved the idea of this project, but a lot other people didn't," Castillo said. "I think that most people were very resistant to thinking about what the project was really about. [The senior-art-project forum] stopped being a conversation on the work itself."

Although Shvarts said she does not remember the class being quite as hostile as Castillo described, she said she believes it is the nature of her piece to "provoke inquiry."

"I believe strongly that art should be a medium for politics and ideologies, not just a commodity," Shvarts said. "I think that I'm creating a project that lives up to the standard of what art is supposed to be."

The display of Schvarts' project will feature a large cube suspended from the ceiling of a room in the gallery of Green Hall. Schvarts will wrap hundreds of feet of plastic sheeting around this cube; lined between layers of the sheeting will be the blood from Schvarts' self-induced miscarriages mixed with Vaseline in order to prevent the blood from drying and to extend the blood throughout the plastic sheeting.

Schvarts will then project recorded videos onto the four sides of the cube. These videos, captured on a VHS camcorder, will show her experiencing miscarriages in her bathrooom tub, she said. Similar videos will be projected onto the walls of the room.

School of Art lecturer Pia Lindman, Schvarts' senior-project advisor, could not be reached for comment Wednesday night.

Few people outside of Yale's undergraduate art department have heard about Shvarts' exhibition. Members of two campus abortion-activist groups . Choose Life at Yale, a pro-life group, and the Reproductive Rights Action League of Yale, a pro-choice group . said they were not previously aware of Schvarts' project.

Alice Buttrick '10, an officer of RALY, said the group was in no way involved with the art exhibition and had no official opinion on the matter.

Sara Rahman '09 said, in her opinion, Shvarts is abusing her constitutional right to do what she chooses with her body.

"[Shvarts' exhibit] turns what is a serious decision for women into an absurdism," Rahman said. "It discounts the gravity of the situation that is abortion."

CLAY member Jonathan Serrato '09 said he does not think CLAY has an official response to Schvarts' exhibition. But personally, Serrato said he found the concept of the senior art project "surprising" and unethical.

"I feel that she's manipulating life for the benefit of her art, and I definitely don't support it," Serrato said. "I think it's morally wrong."

Shvarts emphasized that she is not ashamed of her exhibition, and she has become increasingly comfortable discussing her miscarriage experiences with her peers.

"It was a private and personal endeavor, but also a transparent one for the most part," Shvarts said. "This isn't something I've been hiding."

The official reception for the Undergraduate Senior Art Show will be from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. on April 25. The exhibition will be on public display from April 22 to May 1. The art exhibition is set to premiere alongside the projects of other art seniors this Tuesday, April 22 at the gallery of Holcombe T. Green Jr. Hall on Chapel Street.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: todd on April 17, 2008, 03:11:49 PM
So wait - when my dad put cigarettes out on my neck, was he being a bad parent or using my flesh as a canvas for his self-expression?
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Phantom Hugger on April 17, 2008, 03:28:37 PM
This sounds like a discarded subplot for Claire from Six Feet Under.

I'm so glad art school is in the rear view mirror.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: erika on April 17, 2008, 03:31:05 PM
I'm pro-choice, but that is disgusting and shameful and it gives art a bad name.

Gross.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on April 17, 2008, 03:50:34 PM
Ditto.  I'd kinda like to see her and that guy who made housecats into hats get blown up by an anti-abortion terrorist performance artist.  And that guy should be a suicide bomber, too.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on April 17, 2008, 04:42:12 PM
"I hope it inspires some sort of discourse," Shvarts said.


she may be surprised to find that abortion doesnt need inspiration in that regard.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on April 17, 2008, 04:47:06 PM
I'm pro-choice, but that is disgusting and shameful and it gives art a bad name.

Gross.

same here.  but could you imagine watching campy VHS videos of a miscarriage in a bathtub??
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: KickTheBobo on April 17, 2008, 04:58:30 PM
"Mirror. Father. Mirror."

really, though: fuck all those artists that are attempting to make me THINK. I spend all day thinking about horrible things that happen in this world, mostly because you can't help but be bombarded with BUMMERS left and right. I know people and animals are suffering. I know there is injustice. I know that my car has blown three brand new tires in the course of four months, all to the tune of $100 a pop.

I just want to enjoy some art that reminds me of how beautiful and complex and hilarious this world we're stuck in is. Is that so much to ask?

I just hope that this dipshit has a good agent and can really cash in on her 15 minutes, because really: that's what it's all about with these ArtStarâ„¢ tools.



Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: erika on April 17, 2008, 05:02:48 PM
I have no problem with artists making me think. But this doesn't make me think about anything but this girl's need for attention. There are so many tragedies in the world, and THIS is what she wants us to think about? Her fucking uterus?

This is an art exhibit from last year that made me think about the meaning of the piece as opposed to the artist's self-indulgence:

http://www.friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php/topic,894.msg13661.html#msg13661
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: todd on April 17, 2008, 05:07:31 PM
The problem is that this is disingenuous art. She's doing this so we talk about HER, not her "art" or "the issues." This is self-serving, "aren't I edgy?" bullshit.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Jason on April 17, 2008, 05:22:55 PM
The problem is that this is disingenuous art. She's doing this so we talk about HER, not her "art" or "the issues." This is self-serving, "aren't I edgy?" bullshit.

Exactly.
I don't have a problem with what she's doing apart from it being a transparently contrived stab at causing controversy and ultimately extremely boring.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: moonshake on April 17, 2008, 05:31:52 PM
Today was a weird day. First I read this story. Then later on my university campus, I find these sensationalist nutjobs (http://www.abortionno.org/index.html) displaying "abortion is genocide" posters comparing abortion with the holocaust, lynching and what not.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Chris L on April 17, 2008, 06:00:45 PM
Here she is, apparently taking part in some sort of "Living Cliche" performance piece:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/rmD-wLdCgVw&hl[/youtube]

I think she thought she would mainly have to weather a few insults from within her ivy league sphere over this.  We'll see how she handles the ensuing shitstorm.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: emma on April 17, 2008, 06:10:26 PM
Here she is, apparently taking part in some sort of "Living Cliche" performance piece:

For someone who says "it's not enough to have the right to say [things] if you don't know what you're going to say," she certainly didn't plan that speech very well. She "kinda"s and "sort of"s as much as me and Pudge combined, also.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Chris L on April 17, 2008, 06:15:13 PM
...Er, if it's not all a hoax (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/04/17/yale-students-abortion-art-claim-scam).
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Oogie on April 17, 2008, 06:26:55 PM
Exactly.
I don't have a problem with what she's doing apart from it being a transparently contrived stab at causing controversy and ultimately extremely boring.
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I dunno. If she were taking pills to make parts of her liver, pop out, or brain, would that raise your red flags?

I went to one of my wife's crits a while back, and this lady art student had baked all these cakes (shaped like soccer balls, etc). She had apparently been ripped on for baking the cakes in an earlier crit, and so in this one she kind of was made up like a zombie housewife, and then she proceeded to demolish the cakes (kicking them, etc.) This one critic on the panel, who was this kind of tall, hideous frankenstein looking dude, said that she should have destroyed the cakes by rubbing them on their vagina so that they would "mingle with her juices."

This is a 50 year old, relatively powerful, and horribly unattractive man talking to a 20-something, quite attractive grad student.

Can you imagine that discourse happening in a public space anywhere but in an "art" context?

This poor woman's actions, inducing multiple abortions, is really a statement on what is expected of female artists. Outside of the feminist discourse (which treats women as empowered meat rather than just plain old SPAM) the art world is the creepiest group of misogynistic old bastards this side of Bohemian Grove.

I don't think she's actually making that statement with her work (which I will say I find absolutely repulsive. It is not only dangerous to her body, but makes a mockery of any reasonable opinion of abortion and abortion rights, IMHO) but the fact that she felt that she should/could use her body, and exploit the most natural and definitively "female" function that there is, to garner attention/praise/etc., seems not to come from any level of empowerment, but the supreme degradation that is inherent to the patriarchal art world.

Fuck it.


Well done, art fag, well done.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Chris L on April 17, 2008, 06:39:11 PM
I went to one of my wife's crits a while back, and this lady art student had baked all these cakes (shaped like soccer balls, etc). She had apparently been ripped on for baking the cakes in an earlier crit, and so in this one she kind of was made up like a zombie housewife, and then she proceeded to demolish the cakes (kicking them, etc.) This one critic on the panel, who was this kind of tall, hideous frankenstein looking dude, said that she should have destroyed the cakes by rubbing them on their vagina so that they would "mingle with her juices."

This is a 50 year old, relatively powerful, and horribly unattractive man talking to a 20-something, quite attractive grad student.

Can you imagine that discourse happening in a public space anywhere but in an "art" context?

You mean besides FOTChan?
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Oogie on April 17, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
"You mean besides FOTChan?"

Shut up wise guy or I'll cunt punch you!
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Oogie on April 17, 2008, 06:47:23 PM
...Er, if it's not all a hoax (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/04/17/yale-students-abortion-art-claim-scam).

When i read that on WorldNetDaily I'll believe it.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Jason on April 17, 2008, 06:49:55 PM
If it is a hoax then my opinion of her is reversed, that's pretty cool to get the am radio crew all riled up.
However, she seems really annoying in that clip.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on April 17, 2008, 07:18:52 PM
I'm as suspicious of the authenticity of her claims as that right-wing blowhard Chris L linked to.

There were rumours of  a student planning on doing something like this at the school where I work last year.  This was a pretty delusional student who had lots of half-baked political ideas but no real sense of civic (or general) responsibility.  Word got out to the faculty and they either talked her out of it, or she just didn't bother going ahead with it (honestly that's like months of homework).  I'm in charge of generally keeping the galleries in shape and I heard about this.  I was truly upset by it, but by the end of the week I was like "as long as she puts down a tarp". The kicker was that it was supposed to be a work about feminism.

But because I've heard rumors about this happening somewhere else, I'd say it's very likely a hoax anyway.  Or at least I'd like to think that. If nothing else, it's not original.  I hope this girl is ready to receive multiple death threats a day.

Calling the sperm donors "fabricators" is truly pathetic, but it also might be a tip-off that it's bullshit, and actually meant as a critique of sensationalism in the (campus) media.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: buffcoat on April 17, 2008, 07:25:20 PM
"Mirror. Father. Mirror."

Bobo,

Is that a "Greystoke: Legend of Tarzan" reference?  Cause if not, it should be, cause it would be, if it is.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: KickTheBobo on April 17, 2008, 07:59:39 PM
"Mirror. Father. Mirror."

Bobo,

Is that a "Greystoke: Legend of Tarzan" reference?  Cause if not, it should be, cause it would be, if it is.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OY0FvhypaY[/youtube]
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Chris L on April 17, 2008, 09:03:39 PM
I'm as suspicious of the authenticity of her claims as that right-wing blowhard Chris L linked to.

I was only associating myself with someone detestable to accomplish a nebulous goal.  It's what Hilary would have done. 
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on April 17, 2008, 09:05:27 PM
I'm as suspicious of the authenticity of her claims as that right-wing blowhard Chris L linked to.

I was only associating myself with someone detestable to accomplish a nebulous goal.  It's what Hilary would have done. 

Understood.
Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: buffcoat on April 18, 2008, 10:26:03 AM
"Mirror. Father. Mirror."

Bobo,

Is that a "Greystoke: Legend of Tarzan" reference?  Cause if not, it should be, cause it would be, if it is.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm1IA8AS-as[/youtube]

Title: Re: abortion-art?
Post by: Pat K on April 21, 2008, 11:51:27 AM
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"Mirror. Father. Mirror."

I love that other people out there are still throwing around "Mirror Father Mirror". That's long been adopted as an easy shorthand term for that kind of bullshit art amongst me and my friends, and it's terrifically useful.

As in, "Should I go to so-and-so's exhibition?" "Ugh, don't bother. Very 'mirror father mirror'."