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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: team minus zero on April 19, 2008, 10:56:58 PM
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So last night when I went to go see Forgetting Sarah Marshall with some friends I saw this trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ07JO-SaBc
does it annoy anyone else that Judd Apatow and his friends just keep churning out movie after movie, or anger anyone that David Gordon Green is directing this?!!??
This trailer got me really mad.
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does it annoy anyone else that Judd Apatow and his friends just keep churning out movie after movie, or anger anyone that David Gordon Green is directing this?!!??
No, not really. I like my anger to be more constructive. Like, for example, there's this Thai place down the street from my house and I usually go there for pad thai because it's always really delicious and perfect. BUT. Today I went there and it was SO SPICY. Spicier than normal. Waaaaaaaaay too spicy to be as enjoyable as it usually is. And that made me angry, because, you know, you should be able to expect consistency from a place called The Golden Turtle, I think. Don't you?
[I realize that looks really sarcastic, but the only way in which I am kidding is that I don't think that's actually very constructive. That is also maybe not as relevant as I might have thought it was originally, but I'm going to keep it in because I think it's a pressing issue.]
To answer your question better: no. Plus, and again I don't mean to be a jerk or anything, I'm just curious--If Judd Apatow movies annoy you a whole bunch, then why were you paying to see one in the first place? Or am I a total idiot and he didn't produce Forgetting Sarah Marshall?
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jeeze.... yes he did. i was kind of dragged there by my friends. it's not that i hate judd apatow so much, it just seems he's becoming the danielle steel of comedy movies and the fact that david gordon green is directing it seems like he's selling out.
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So last night when I went to go see Forgetting Sarah Marshall with some friends I saw this trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ07JO-SaBc
does it annoy anyone else that Judd Apatow and his friends just keep churning out movie after movie, or anger anyone that David Gordon Green is directing this?!!??
This trailer got me really mad.
I brought this up a couple of weeks ago, I called the show to say Judd Apatow should take a break for awhile. mostly out of the risk of getting over exposed.
for the record i love his films and think this is going to be the comedy of the summer.
but seriously, anger? really?? this offends you to the point of anger? come on.
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I find myself annoyed by Judd Apatow too, but I think it's just my stupid tendency to hate people once they become popular/successful. I don't think his movies are perfect, and they're usually overhyped, but I enjoy them. That Pineapple Express trailer looked especially good - the foot stuck in the windshield driving down the highway made me laugh out loud.
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Team, you are a little bit ridiculous. You're angry that DGG directed that? Why? He's been talking about branching out for a while now, and even if he hadn't been, I don't know what's so awful about him directing Pineapple Express.
I think Judd Apatow's movies so far are pretty underwhelming, but I actually don't think he's "churning [them] out." It's just that now that he's had some success and has a little clout, he's able to get his friends projects finances and distribution. Good for him, I guess. I liked Superbad a bunch.
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that doesn't look that bad
stoner comedy by the numbers
whats the problem?
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Give DGG a break I mean the man just came out with a throughly depressing flick in Snow Angles let him show that he does have a sense of humor.
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I think judd a. takes these dumb generic ideas and makes the best possible movie that can be made out of them. It's a bit of a strange specialty, but ok.
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DGG made 'George Washington' - in my eyes, he can do what he likes.
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That looks good. Apatow has kept his streak up as far as I'm concerned. As long as he keeps churning out funny stuff, I don't care how often he does it.
How was "Forgetting Sarah Marshall?"
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Forgetting Sarah Marshall was just fine...
maybe my problem with Pineapple Express is that David Gordon Green's films have always been intelligent and thoughtful and the subject matter they've dealt with may seem simple on the surface, but when he gets a hold of it he turns it into a film you can go back and watch again and again and see things that you didn't see before. With Pineapple Express I'm afraid he'll leave that behind and want to direct movies that are purely a way for people to escape reality, not films that will have people talking about it after they leave the theater. If he wants to branch out and experiment that's fine, but I'd hate to see him go mainstream, gain acclaim for directing a really funny stoner comedy rather than something that's a little more intelligent. Is that fair to say?
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DGG made 'George Washington' - in my eyes, he can do what he likes.
Yes! I saw that a few nights ago and was blown away. (which I'm guessing means apMike would find it "instantly forgettable.")
Just kidding, Mike!
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Is that fair to say?
Why don't you reserve judgment until AFTER you see the movie? You're clearly a fan of David Gordon Green; give him the benefit of the doubt! Maybe he saw something in the script that appealed to him and thought he could make a fun movie. Im sure if he REALLY wanted to "sell out" (a phrase that means less and less to me as years go by) he could have made "Step Up 2" or something.
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I don't know who any of these people are and I haven't seen any of these films.
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Forgetting Sarah Marshall was good, btw.
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Take heart, Team Minus Zero! I totally identify with the anti-Apatow sentiment. In a lot of ways I don't see too much difference between what he's doing now and what various SNL alumni were doing in the 90s, and I don't really understand why he's taken so seriously and given the benefit of so many doubts when his work is at just about the same quality level, where all the various SNL movies of the 90s were greeted with the same universal groaning and forehead slapping. People talk about the Judd Apatow "canon" and treat him like he's got this zeitgeist-capturing window into the postmillennial single-stoner-guy soul, but nobody said that about Adam Sandler, who had the same basic lovable slacker-stoner characters and pretty much the same amount of dick/fart/vagina jokes per film. And even most Apatow fans will tell you that at this point his track record is basically 50-50. I don't think he's nearly as smart as everyone tells me he is, or nearly as much of a superprolific wunderkind as everyone tells me he is. So I agree with you there.
And I am also a HUGE David Gordon Green fan, and in a lot of ways, I SHOULD be as angry as you that's he's doing Pineapple Express, but take heart! I'm not, for the following reasons:
1.) In the same way Judd Apatow's movies are all the same, DGG is similarly formulaic these days too, and a change of pace could be good for him. Even if it doesn't result in a good film, it could just be sort of a nice palate-cleansing exercise for DGG. All of his movies have always had a certain amount of humor to them - All The Real Girls was hilarious, I thought - so I'll bet that he's probably been waiting for the chance to do a straight-up comedy, if only to just get it out of his system.
2.) Whether or not Pineapple Express sucks, it's nice to see DGG getting paid - he's earned the right to cash in a little bit. He's obviously not going to make a habit out of it, so what the hell.
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3.) Every time I get close to getting bummed out about Pineapple Express, I just cheer myself up by thinking about the Suspiria remake that DGG has in the works now, which will be INSANELY good.
So cheer up, Team. Don't let the haters get you down (or that is, the haters who hate that you're a hater, or whatever)....if we Apatow-haters have to grit our teeth and bear David Gordon Green's Pineapple Express, just console yourself by remembering that it's making David Gordon Green's Suspiria possible.
Also, I just watched the trailer after I wrote that, and it doesn't look so bad. I mean, I wish that DGG would make more George Washingtons as much as anybody, but if he's got to cash in, it could be a lot worse. That looks like it's got a few chuckles in it, and it doesn't look totally soulless. And it's got the guy who played Bust-Ass from All The Real Girls in it - in a neck brace, no less. That's pretty funny right there.
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I really don't think the Judd Apatow/Adam Sandler comparison is fair at all.
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I really don't think the Judd Apatow/Adam Sandler comparison is fair at all.
I second that.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/With_the_zohan.jpg) Apatow co-wrote this. Doesn't look so hot.
P.S. I like the Apatow movies.
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But Robert Smigel directed it, which is promising.
Also, full disclosure/name drop: one of my best friends is in it. He doesn't know how much of his part will make it to the final cut, but it was pretty big in the script. It might be his big break, so I'm rooting for him. He's a great guy and an incredible actor.
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Smigel actually cowrote it with Apatow. Im actually a fan of Sandler's SNL stuff and Billy Madison but that trailer has me more than a little worried.
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I remember laughing out loud more than once during the trailer. It does look a bit over the top (understatement?) but hey, sometimes over the top is good.
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I've only seen All The Real Girls so I am a little confused at the insinuation David Gordon Green is being a sell-out who shouldn't touch Apatow movies. George Washington might be great, but All The Real Girls was pretty thoroughly mediocre. Apatow as producer, on the other hand, has one dud (Walk Hard, which would have been good had it been the first 30 minutes the entire time) and a bunch of films/tv shows of quality (career-wise, its a kind of unprecedented hot streak). Maybe they are over-hyped but they are all pretty good imo.
I get the thinking that he is over-doing it and is weakening the effect of his movies, but if you look at Christopher Guest you'll see that sometimes waiting years between projects doesn't necessarily mean your movies are going to stay of an even quality.
Also, I am excited to see James Franco as a goofy guy again. He was so incredible in Freaks and Geeks and since then he's only played to his weak spots.
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Thoughts?
I squeaked with delight at the Godspeed You! Black Emperor reference because I'm a loser.
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I loved Danny McBride and although he was only in one scene, Joe Lo Truglio was very good too.
I'd say that this wasn't exactly a hysterical laugh-out-loud movie, but still overall entertaining.
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I didn't laugh all that much but I thought it was great as a movie.
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I was the only one in my group that wasn't disappointed but I thought it was really good, I thought it was really smart and funny.
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Theres a fight sequence between Franco/Rogen and Danny McBride that makes it worth the price of admission.
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There was one part where I was really hoping for a wait, whaaaaat? from franco.
instead, it was just "wait..... (big pause) what do you mean?"
words: http://areyougenehackman.blogspot.com/2008/08/he-does-great-jeff-goldblum-impression.html
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No, not really. I like my anger to be more constructive. Like, for example, there's this Thai place down the street from my house and I usually go there for pad thai because it's always really delicious and perfect. BUT. Today I went there and it was SO SPICY. Spicier than normal. Waaaaaaaaay too spicy to be as enjoyable as it usually is. And that made me angry, because, you know, you should be able to expect consistency from a place called The Golden Turtle, I think. Don't you?
The Golden Turtle on Ossington?
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No, not really. I like my anger to be more constructive. Like, for example, there's this Thai place down the street from my house and I usually go there for pad thai because it's always really delicious and perfect. BUT. Today I went there and it was SO SPICY. Spicier than normal. Waaaaaaaaay too spicy to be as enjoyable as it usually is. And that made me angry, because, you know, you should be able to expect consistency from a place called The Golden Turtle, I think. Don't you?
The Golden Turtle on Ossington?
Exactly what I was wondering. I love that place.
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No, not really. I like my anger to be more constructive. Like, for example, there's this Thai place down the street from my house and I usually go there for pad thai because it's always really delicious and perfect. BUT. Today I went there and it was SO SPICY. Spicier than normal. Waaaaaaaaay too spicy to be as enjoyable as it usually is. And that made me angry, because, you know, you should be able to expect consistency from a place called The Golden Turtle, I think. Don't you?
The Golden Turtle on Ossington?
Exactly what I was wondering. I love that place.
I just saw this and felt I needed to reply:
YES! The Golden Turtle always has been, and always will be, the champion. Also, I like that they kept the ridiculous nonsense graffiti that one person did to every building on Ossington:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2291809577_43ab668bda.jpg)
STAYING ON TOPIC: I am probably going to see Pineapple Express tonight. So...that's exciting.
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STAYING ON TOPIC: I am probably going to see Pineapple Express tonight. So...that's exciting.
Can you take note of where you think the story takes place. The only identifier was the generic Clark County, and I couldn't place the license plates. If it is some sort of fictional/generic location, I'd like some speculation on why they chose to do that.
Maybe to help detach the ridiculous violence and general illogical behavior from any familiar reality?
(It's more probable that I'm just a licenseplateadummy)
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STAYING ON TOPIC: I am probably going to see Pineapple Express tonight. So...that's exciting.
Can you take note of where you think the story takes place. The only identifier was the generic Clark County, and I couldn't place the license plates. If it is some sort of fictional/generic location, I'd like some speculation on why they chose to do that.
hmm, clark county is also where superbad takes place.