FOT Forum

FOT Community => Links => Topic started by: Fido on May 04, 2008, 11:09:01 PM

Title: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: Fido on May 04, 2008, 11:09:01 PM
I can't help noticing all the posters in the subway, on bus shelters, etc. advertising "This American Life" on Sundance, which Newsweek has called "a jewel of a TV series." 

Why is Ira Glass standing dressed in a suit on what appears to be the Bonneville Salt Flats while shuffling papers?  Quite the promotional campaign! 
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: TremblingEagle on May 05, 2008, 12:19:39 AM
The tv show people came up with the idea of having the desk move around the world and stuff
it is arbitrary to have those elements but they have to do SOMEthing to give the radio show a visual element.

It's a pretty cool show especially for NPR fare, not everybody can be as edgy as FMU.
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: Sploops on May 05, 2008, 01:30:54 AM
...and now for something completely different.
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: todd on May 05, 2008, 01:34:25 AM
The show is great if you take it at face value, which I have a hard time doing. The whole show reminds me of that pretentious douche from American Beauty filming the plastic bag, going: "Isn't it... beautiful?" They'll look at a pile of trash and explain how it's a metaphor for blah blah blah blah, or find a farmer with a cloned bull and explain how he represents blah blah blah blah blah.

I just hate how they inject this tidy metaphor into their subjects' lives. Life isn't that clean.
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: yesno on May 05, 2008, 08:49:22 AM
I've said it before.  TAL is good when it's funny, bad when it tries to be socially conscious. I really like the weightlifting snowman story.
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: Pat K on May 05, 2008, 09:52:17 AM
Quote
I really like the weightlifting snowman story.

All Time Klassic
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: gravy boat on May 05, 2008, 09:53:45 AM
It's not great all the time - (I think that is a byproduct of quantity - they are prolific) but I think it can be great when it tries to be socially conscious.  I thought the March 2008 episode of "The Audacity of Government" was fantastic.  

I haven't seen the TV show, so I'm only talking about the podcasts.  My mom used to watch the Imus show on TV every morning, which I didn't get. I have never understood the appeal of watching a radio show on TV.
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: yesno on May 05, 2008, 10:00:46 AM
I thought the March 2008 episode of "The Audacity of Government" was fantastic.  

Yeah, I've got to agree with that.  That episode was great.

  I don't know what the formula is.  Some episodes are so gut-wrenchingly terrible, but the show does shine from time to time.
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: Beth on May 05, 2008, 01:26:55 PM
I've said it before.  TAL is good when it's funny, bad when it tries to be socially conscious. I really like the weightlifting snowman story.

I don't know. I cried buckets in the car when they did that story about the Muslim girl who was teased at school. Buckets.
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: Chris L on May 05, 2008, 01:40:37 PM
I've said it before.  TAL is good when it's funny, bad when it tries to be socially conscious. I really like the weightlifting snowman story.

I don't know. I cried buckets in the car when they did that story about the Muslim girl who was teased at school. Buckets.

That's ironic because I heard on Glenn Beck's show that Muslims aren't allowed to have buckets.  That's why the guy was scooping up water with his hand in that joke. 
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: gravy boat on May 05, 2008, 01:58:16 PM
I've said it before.  TAL is good when it's funny, bad when it tries to be socially conscious. I really like the weightlifting snowman story.

I don't know. I cried buckets in the car when they did that story about the Muslim girl who was teased at school. Buckets.

That's ironic because I heard on Glenn Beck's show that Muslims aren't allowed to have buckets.  That's why the guy was scooping up water with his hand in that joke. 

Buckets in a CAR? Not the Amish.
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: Jouster on May 05, 2008, 02:31:30 PM
I think that is a byproduct of quantity - they are prolific

Not at all - I think they average one new episode every six weeks.  It's just that they have a backlog of over ten years worth of shows that makes it seem so.
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 05, 2008, 02:56:37 PM
I cried buckets in the car when they did that story about the Muslim girl who was teased at school. Buckets.

Me too.

That's ironic because I heard on Glenn Beck's show that Muslims aren't allowed to have buckets.  That's why the guy was scooping up water with his hand in that joke. 

Zing!

I think they're just inconsistent.  Sometimes the funny stuff is unbearable (David Rakoff, sorry JK), and sometimes the socially conscious thing is obnoxious, but often they're both great.  Everything named so far - weightlifting snowman, little Muslim girl, audacity, has been pretty great, as has a lot of their Iraq stuff.  I like the show, but I don't love it - I subscribe during the school year, for listening during my Brooklyn-to-Rutgers commute and my office hours and pull the plug once classes end. 

Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: PatrickChew on May 06, 2008, 03:20:41 PM
...and now for something completely different.

Good call, Sploops...

(http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/Ira%20Glass.jpg)
(http://www.alexhopmann.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/cleese.jpg)
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: Stan on May 06, 2008, 03:52:28 PM
"Here we are in Bolivia to discuss storage jars..."



 I really am a fucking geek.


 
 And a Spartan Warrior!
Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: pigasus on May 11, 2008, 04:05:02 PM
I've said it before.  TAL is good when it's funny, bad when it tries to be socially conscious. I really like the weightlifting snowman story.

I agree. The "Fiasco" episode is hilarious. Here it is

http://www.divshare.com/download/4472828-352

Title: Re: Others take exception with Tom's less charitable assessment
Post by: yesno on May 15, 2008, 09:35:25 PM
This week's story was pretty great.  A good look at the mortgage crisis from the bottom up, that didn't take the "Waaah! 
these derivative thingies are too complicated!" tact that a lot of the coverage has.

BUT:  If his voice was shot, WHY THE HELL DID HE INSIST ON HOSTING THE SHOW?  What, he's so indispensable?  Johnny Carson let Joan Rivers host his show.  Is Ira Glass better than Johnny Carson?  Alex Bloomberg pretty much sounds the same as Ira.  No one would have been able to tell the difference, if he hosted the show.  Or, he could have said a few lines at the beginning and end, apologizing and turning over the show.

Damn, the arrogance of the whole thing blew my mind.