FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gilly on May 16, 2008, 02:06:44 AM
Title: Dubs or subs?
Post by: Gilly on May 16, 2008, 02:06:44 AM
I'm trying to work my way through the Criterion Collection and I have a question for all you movie buffs..dubbed or subtitled?
I feel like I'm missing out with both. Subtitles let me hear the original actors voice but dubbing lets me watch the movie as a movie instead of trying to read and follow along with what's happening on the screen. I feel like I'm missing important elements either way. Which do you prefer?
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Post by: todd on May 16, 2008, 02:19:22 AM
Fuck, I thought this thread was about pimping Gilly's ride.
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Post by: Matt on May 16, 2008, 02:27:41 AM
Subs, all the way. The Host taught me that lesson.
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Post by: TremblingEagle on May 16, 2008, 02:31:19 AM
I remember hating the dub of Crouching Tiger
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Post by: yesno on May 16, 2008, 02:45:32 AM
Subs for regular movies.
I'm fine with dubs for animation.
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Post by: Sarah on May 16, 2008, 07:23:57 AM
Subtitles all the way.
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Post by: Fig Neutron on May 16, 2008, 07:36:13 AM
I can't say across the board. I thought Forbidden Games (Jeux interdits) was dubbed tremendously, but Shaolin Soccor was downright offensive. To be done well, it would have to be with genuine quality actors (unless the original ones sucked anyway), as well as good direction of those voice actors. It would probably warrant about as many takes as in the filming of the original scenes. Rarely is such effort made.
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Post by: Oogie on May 16, 2008, 07:50:56 AM
I think that to watch a foreign film you should be required to learn the native language of that film, and that those who try and cheat should be garroted.
for example i learned jon pertweese to fully enjoy frenzy.
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Post by: Sarah on May 16, 2008, 08:18:58 AM
Feisty this morning, aintcha, Grimlock?
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Post by: Andy on May 16, 2008, 08:52:09 AM
Subs are ok for you elitists who know how to read, but us working types prefer dubs.
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on May 16, 2008, 10:19:22 AM
subtitles all the way!
i dont mind dubbed when its japanese animation though. other animation is a case by case basis- i.e., Persepolis (french)
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Post by: Sarah on May 16, 2008, 12:35:52 PM
Obviously, dubbing is going to be less of a problem in animation, since the disconnect between the mouth movements and the words is less apparent.
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Post by: Martin on May 16, 2008, 12:48:31 PM
Now is the time for us to gather together and celebrate those things we like and think are fun Nu är det dags för oss att samlas och fira de saker vi gillar och tycker är kul
Subs all the way.
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Post by: Gilly on May 16, 2008, 01:20:06 PM
Interesting, I was expecting somebody to defend dubbed films. I think you're missing out either way and in some films, take Fellini films for example you're missing out on the amazing visuals to read the script...and with some directors the script is really secondary.
I've watched The Seventh Seal both ways and I might have liked the dubbed version better because I got more from the movie from seeing the expressions on the actor's faces than the expressions in their voices. My mom's side of the family is 100 percent Swedish but I don't think there is anybody still alive that speaks the language or that even has an accent other than normal Swedish MN.
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Post by: Miss on May 16, 2008, 08:17:21 PM
I thought this thread was going to have me make the difficult decision between a dub sack and a sub snack. xo
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Post by: Days of Se7en on May 18, 2008, 09:34:06 PM
Subs are generally the way to go, but in certain cases there are films where the "original language" is not so cut-and-dry one way or the other, e.g. many Italian genre films (Gialli, spaghetti westerns, etc) where English and Italian audio tracks were each recorded during post-production and attached to the prints for release in their respective countries. This is also true for a few of Herzog's movies and I'm sure others as well. In these cases, English dubs are acceptable if not downright preferable.
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Post by: A.M. Thomas on May 19, 2008, 01:37:53 AM
As a slob that is trying to convince himself he's a snob, I have to say subtitles are essential almost always.
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Post by: Matt on May 19, 2008, 01:44:04 AM
As a slob that is trying to convince himself he's a snob, I have to say subtitles are essential almost always.
I don't know that many slobs who have Renee Falconetti avatars. Imposteur!
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Post by: Gilly on May 19, 2008, 02:25:53 AM
I'm still a slob as I have shied away from the early silent Criterion stuff. Someday I'll get to them, but as for now there's too many of these crazy "talkies" I still need to see.
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Post by: Fido on May 19, 2008, 03:28:43 AM
Dubs are appropriate for spaghetti westerns.
Subs are for arugula-eating, latte-drinking Volvo drivers who won't watch Fox News Channel. So they're great for me and my family!
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on May 19, 2008, 05:41:22 PM
p.s. i mostly support subtitles, but i cant stand it when people tell me they dont like subtitles because they dont like to read (and thats why they go to the movies)
just putting that out there
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Post by: WavyGravy on May 20, 2008, 01:38:57 PM