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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Matt on May 22, 2008, 05:29:48 PM
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I just saw Indiana Jones 4. It wasn't great, but I didn't hate it!
It probably helped that I was never an Indiana Jones fan to begin with. (No childhood to rape!) It also helps to prepare yourself for wildly implausible shenanigans, inanities and tomfoolery.
I did go in expecting some good old-fashioned movie magic, since I read this on IMDB: "Producer Frank Marshall stated that the film would be shot the same way as the previous three - with stunt men, and using CGI only when necessary." Sadly, the only old-fashioned movie magic I got was that there were actors filmed by a camera. I think that, sooner or later, someone's going to make a movie like this without digital effects, and people are gonna go nuts.
All in all, it's a solid C. Or, if you like, a "meh."
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(No childhood to rape!)
Well, aren't you the lucky one!
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All in all, it's a solid C. Or, if you like, a "meh."
I can't spend my $10 fast enough!
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watching the trailer, i gather theres only a million "witty" comments on his age:
harrison ford: "im too old for this...", on and on.
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(No childhood to rape!)
Well, aren't you the lucky one!
Did I just get zung?
What I meant was, Indiana Jones wasn't my thing as a kid. I didn't see Raiders of the Lost Ark until I was maybe fourteen. Seeing as Indiana Jones did not make up any significant percentage of my childhood, the shortcomings of this film do not result in a rape of said childhood. Now, if someone were to make, say, a terrible X-Men or Batman movie, that might constitute a solid childhood raping.
Wait, whuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttt?
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my friend adam and i held in the laughter until one particular line towards the end
also: "stalin's poster girl" was a nice touch.
it was dumb as planks and less fun than national treasure 2.
but i hold national treasure 2 in pretty high regard.
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but i hold national treasure 2 in pretty high regard.
I will never trust your judgment on anything ever again!
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but i hold national treasure 2 in pretty high regard.
I will never trust your judgment on anything ever again!
fair enough. i expected that, really
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I guess i should go shopping for a new avatar.
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I recommend people see it now.
This will be discussed on Tuesday in depth.
Tom.
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haha
...and Tom rarely discusses films he likes.
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Gimme back my $9.75 plus gas money to get to there.
That was some of the laziest acting I have ever seen!
Harrison Ford's John Wayne swagger was SO annoying.
I wish I saw it matinee style.
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Now, if someone were to make, say, a terrible X-Men or Batman movie, that might constitute a solid childhood raping.
(http://images.artnet.com/artwork_images_423822183_386825_mark-chamberlain.jpg)
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"...using CGI only when necessary."
WHAT?!?! The shadow that Indy was casting on the car was the most obviously CG'd thing I've seen since Star Wars. And that was just in the commercial. I can't wait to see this. I'm going to count all the people that Lucas CG'd sideburns onto.
C
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the CG is all over it, BIG TIME.
not in a good way
look out for flying monkeys.
and fire ants
and someone's eyes explode.
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and someone's eyes explode.
you lie
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and someone's eyes explode.
you lie
CATCH FIRE and then explode, sorry.
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and someone's eyes explode.
Besides the audience's?
I'm guessing they just outright rip off the ending of Raiders, right?
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I'm guessing they just outright rip off the ending of Raiders, right?
A combo of that and one other Spielberg movie from that era. Won't spoil which one. Until Tom spoils it on Tuesday, I guess.
(I thought it was OK, btw. By far the worst Indian Jones movie, not even in the same league, but OK just as a goof, like a thrown together reunion album)
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I'm guessing they just outright rip off the ending of Raiders, right?
A combo of that and one other Spielberg movie from that era.
Schindler's List?
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What was more awful? Indiana Jones sleepwalking through his lines? Or Shia LaBOOF as a tuff guy greaser? Jesus cracker, that was some bad casting.
Also, Indiana Jones has no respect for the dead. For shame!
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Seeing it Monday!
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Yeah, I'm going to brave the mosquitoes at the drive in and see it as a double feature with Iron Man. 7 bucks for those two movies isn't bad, and hey, Iron Man is supposed to be good, so I'll probably get my money's worth. I just want to see this movie and move on.
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Yeah, I'm going to brave the mosquitoes at the drive in and see it as a double feature with Iron Man. 7 bucks for those two movies isn't bad, and hey, Iron Man is supposed to be good, so I'll probably get my money's worth. I just want to see this movie and move on.
Where'd you get your time machine?
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Yeah, I'm going to brave the mosquitoes at the drive in and see it as a double feature with Iron Man. 7 bucks for those two movies isn't bad, and hey, Iron Man is supposed to be good, so I'll probably get my money's worth. I just want to see this movie and move on.
Where'd you get your time machine?
I know. Country living has it's perks.
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Holy cats this was an awful movie.
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Whenever Cate Blanchett was on screen, I kept seeing Elina Lowensohn's character from the Gymnast episode of Seinfeld.
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I saw Iron Man with Andy from Knoxville yesterday, and really enjoyed it. Robert Downey Jr's believable as an irresponsible alcoholic who cares only about himself (who would of thought?) until he learns important life lessons, and beyond that, I don't want to ruin it for you.
I will probably turn off the radio for half an hour Tuesday when Tom starts talking Indiana Jones, because we are seeing it Wednesday.
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I'll be the Indy apologist.
I liked that movie just as much as any of the other Indiana Jones movies...which is to say that I enjoyed watching it a lot. It's not without it's flaws (I'm looking at you "leboof"...swinging around all Tarzan-like), but none of the Indiana Jones movies are flawless. When compared to the older films it's clear to me that "Crystal Skulls" shares the rhythms, over-the-top action, and goofy sense of humor.
...actually... Now that I think about it, I really liked this movie.
I wonder if most of this film's criticism comes from people forgetting what the originals were like to watch. In the many years since they were made, the action genre has had so many renovations that the conventions of the Indiana Jones movies end up seeming quaint 15 years down the road.
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Yeah, a coupla weeks ago I was flipping through the channels and I settled on the Indy movie with Sean Connery. I literally snoozed.
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I need to know whether to see this! Such mixed messages. The reviews on Metacritic span the entire spectrum. Usually there's some consensus.
Unrelated point, but I read this phrase in a pan of the new Narnia:
"It takes about a half hour for the bad news to sink in: "Prince Caspian" has little character interest and depicts no earthshaking moral conflict. The Christian allegory, unmistakable in "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe," is nowhere to be found in "Prince Caspian." Not even its former outlines are apparent. Alas, Lewis without Christianity just isn't Lewis."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/15/DDIS10M921.DTL
Holy shit, is that wrong. Prince Caspian was one of the Christian-est things I've ever seen.* This ain't just my opinion. It's like saying you didn't like the movie because it didn't have any magic lions.
*(That is neither good nor bad in my book. I'm not a believer myself, but I'm not about to cut myself off from centuries of intellectual and artistic tradition, and I rather enjoy tracing out Christian themes in art. Oh, medieval literature classes. Some of the things I've heard friends of mine say about C.S. Lewis apparently being part of the George Bush propaganda machine seemed as blinkered as the Christian crusade against Phil Pullman (you probably know him as "Philip")).
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for me this movie was like Independence Day meets National Treasure: Book of Secrets and Indiana just like stumbled on the set. I was disappointed he never said "This skull BELONGS in a MUSEUM!"
look forward to Tuesday's show!
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their TREASURE was KNOWLEDGE!
that's the line where i lost it.
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I feel bad for a lot of you, who may as well have been watching this on a tiny iPod screen instead of seeing it - like I did - the way it was meant to be seen: in a theater, sitting in the same row as a guy who had on a blinking, glow-in-the-dark Eagles hat.
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Oh, Emily. I didn't even think about that possible quote. I too wish it was in the film.
Yep ... I still like this movie. I figure Tom will shame this opinion on Tuesday, but I like what I like.
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The opening shot of this movie is a smiling, CGI prairie dog.
The opening shot of this movie is a SMILING, CGI PRAIRIE DOG!
THE OPENING SHOT OF THIS MOVIE IS A SMILING, CGI PRAIRIE DOG!!
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The opening shot of this movie is an awesome smiling, CGI prairie dog.
The opening shot of this movie is a AN AWESOME SMILING, CGI PRAIRIE DOG!
THE OPENING SHOT OF THIS MOVIE IS AN AWESOMELY AWESOME SMILING, CGI PRAIRIE DOG!!
fixed ?
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There were only two other people in this gigantic theater when I saw it: My mommy and some lady who sat a few rows behind us. TRUE STORY.
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There were only two other people in this gigantic theater when I saw it: My mommy and some lady who sat a few rows behind us. TRUE STORY.
Is the theater in your house? ;)
Just kidding... it's hip hop weekend everyone's out starfucking and riding those little mopeds come on!
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There were only two other people in this gigantic theater when I saw it: My mommy and some lady who sat a few rows behind us. TRUE STORY.
Is the theater in your house? ;)
Just kidding... it's hip hop weekend everyone's out starfucking and riding those little mopeds come on!
I KNOW. Have you noticed all the broads walking around in bikinis and monokinis with high heels? I feel like I'm in a 2 Live Crew video. Jesus Christ, I just want to pick up some shit at Kid Robot, and my eyeballs are assaulted by muffin tops everywhere.
I also love that the first thing you see when you enter Miami Beach is a gigantic flashing sign that says "NO OPEN CONTAINERS."
PS: Since Dave brought up the movie, I have to ask. How do we feel about Tony Stark listening to Suicidal Tendencies?
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I need to know whether to see this! Such mixed messages. The reviews on Metacritic span the entire spectrum. Usually there's some consensus.
Don't do it. It's the belated third sequel of a highly flawed series and the most generous consensus on it is that it's merely "ok." In two weeks you'll have practically forgotten this geriatric cash grab of a movie exists.
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I need to know whether to see this! Such mixed messages. The reviews on Metacritic span the entire spectrum. Usually there's some consensus.
For a dilemma like this... there is only one arbiter of taste to turn to...
...that's right, The Movie Boy (http://www.themovieboy.com/reviews/i/08_indianajones.htm).
Three Out of Four Stars!
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Just watched it! Packed house!
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PS: Since Dave brought up the movie, I have to ask. How do we feel about Tony Stark listening to Suicidal Tendencies?
Wow, I thought I was the only one who thought that was an odd choice.
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Yeah, that was weird. I always had Iron Man pegged as more of a Cro-Mags fan.
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if only Tony Stark was big into Wu-Tang.
Imagine: Prisoner of War Robert Downey Jr. humming something from the Pretty Tony album, just to keep his mind in order, when inspiration hits! He thinks, 'Time to build an motha-fuckin Iron Man suit and beat ass like Ghostface!!!'
That's it. I'm moving back to Hollywood. ;D
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if only Tony Stark was big into Wu-Tang.
Imagine: Prisoner of War Robert Downey Jr. humming something from the Pretty Tony album, just to keep his mind in order, when inspiration hits! He thinks, 'Time to build an motha-fuckin Iron Man suit and beat ass like Ghostface!!!'
That's it. I'm moving back to Hollywood. ;D
Ghostface actually had a cameo in the can and they scrapped it. Boo!
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At one point I thought to myself, "I wonder when Mulder and Scully will show up?"
Then I thought, "Stop it, that would be RIDICULOUS!"
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Paramount silencing portions of Indiana Jones in theaters?
While at the cinema yesterday, I read a notice posted by the box office that Paramount has intentionally silenced bits of the soundtrack of _Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_ in order to deter and track piracy. The notice acknowledged that the momentary silences were annoying but that it was out of their control. Basically it said, please don't bug the manager if the sound drops out, unless it lasts more than a minute.
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/28/paramount-silencing.html
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Paramount silencing portions of Indiana Jones in theaters?
While at the cinema yesterday, I read a notice posted by the box office that Paramount has intentionally silenced bits of the soundtrack of _Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_ in order to deter and track piracy. The notice acknowledged that the momentary silences were annoying but that it was out of their control. Basically it said, please don't bug the manager if the sound drops out, unless it lasts more than a minute.
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/28/paramount-silencing.html
that hard up to make a buck, huh? they have to silence parts of the movie, oh brother.
give me my money back.
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Paramount silencing portions of Indiana Jones in theaters?
While at the cinema yesterday, I read a notice posted by the box office that Paramount has intentionally silenced bits of the soundtrack of _Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_ in order to deter and track piracy. The notice acknowledged that the momentary silences were annoying but that it was out of their control. Basically it said, please don't bug the manager if the sound drops out, unless it lasts more than a minute.
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/28/paramount-silencing.html
that hard up to make a buck, huh? they have to silence parts of the movie, oh brother.
give me my money back back my money!
Fixed.
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/21/bts.indiana.jones/index.html
Certainly, everybody seemed to be having a good time. At one point on "106 & Park," the rapper Jim Jones took the stage and performed "Ballin," an infectious ode to living it up that even has its own signature dance. Jim Jones taught Indiana Jones the dance (it looks like a fadeaway jump shot) and the crowd ate it up.
"When did you know you were ballin'?" "106 & Park" co-host Terrence J asked Ford.
"I be ballin' now," Ford answered, to wide approval.
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I just saw it. Wasn't that bad. Wasn't that good. Shia LaBoof is pretty terrible. (aside: I met him in real life and he was nice). Those alien shenanigans were dumb. I was half expecting ET to arrive. I liked the car chase in the jungle, except for the George of the Jungle Shiananigans.
Harrison Ford was too squinty and crabby. The acting in general was awful. I think too much happened so that there wasn't really much tension and the stuff that was supposed to be funny just came out corny. I thought the ants were actually pretty good, and in general I think they really did use restraint with the cgi (except for the praire dogs). That a-bomb thing was pretty fucked up, I thought. I think it was supposed to be funny but it was disturbing. A lot of the movie definitely did look really sound stage-y. It's weird, it probably cost a bazillion dollars, but sorta looked retro and cheap. I guess that's the point. The camera filters were weird too. Still, all in all, I didn't totally hate it. It's silliness! Enjoy the silly! Even if it's kinda stilted and flawed.
Those callers were right about the "weight" of the skull, though. It's so obviously plastic and seems to weigh like 2 pounds.
This is better than the movie, and more intriguing: http://www.crystalinks.com/medmusiccs.html
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all in all, I didn't totally hate it.
So that makes two FOTs who didn't totally hate this movie. I no longer stand alone
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Make that three. I pretty much felt exactly like Junk about it, but couldn't be bothered to type up my response (not true, actually; it's just that I was typing up a different response for a friend who's writing an article on possible crypto-Marxism in the movie. I didn't see any).
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Meanwhile the new Errol Morris movie I haven't had a chance to see is slinking out of theaters here after two weeks.
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Really? That sucks. I should go see that toot-sweet, it looks great.
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GIVE ME BACK MY CRYSTAL PEPSI.
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GIVE ME BACK MY CRYSTAL PEPSI.
i felt foolish posting this on my own. finally...thanks, laurie.
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"When did you know you were ballin'?" "106 & Park" co-host Terrence J asked Ford.
"I be ballin' now," Ford answered, to wide approval.
YES.
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i didn't hate it! it's endlessly mock-able but i enjoyed myself the entire time. i think it's less cheesy and annoying than temple of doom.
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"When did you know you were ballin'?" "106 & Park" co-host Terrence J asked Ford.
"I be ballin' now," Ford answered, to wide approval.
YES.
No "I be ballin' now," but here's the video:
http://www.bet.com/onblast/?chan=3&id=1834&sub=0&itype=v (http://www.bet.com/onblast/?chan=3&id=1834&sub=0&itype=v)
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nuke the fridge (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke+the+fridge&defid=3115857#3115857)
A colloquialism used to delineate the precise moment at which a cinematic franchise has crossed over from remote plausibility to self parodying absurdity, usually indicating a low point in the series from which it is unlikely to recover. A reference to one of the opening scenes of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, in which the titular hero manages to avoid death by nuclear explosion by hiding inside a kitchen refrigerator. The film is widely recognised by fans as a major departure from the rest of the series both in terms of content and quality.
Guy 1: "Wow. Did you see the new Indy movie? What the hell was that? It was like I was having some kind of flu induced absurdist nightmare."
Guy 2: "Yep... did or did not that series permanently Nuke the Fridge?"
Guy 1: "Oh, totally Nuked the Fridge! But I guess Spielberg is happy as long as he has the money of the people who trusted him."
Guy 2: "Guess so..."
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My like of this movie has been well documented in this thread, and I knew it was only a matter of time before someone took a shot at Indy escaping a nuclear blast in a fridge. So I'm pleased that my hundredth post will be this:
That was my favorite moment of Crystal Skull. It made me giggle like a child. Like I did when I saw the originals, as a child.
In case you're wondering, my appreciation of the absurd does have bounds. I wouldn't touch the Speed Racer movie with a 100 ft long pole.
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Yeah, it's not like ripping a man's still-beating heart out of his chest with one's bare hands is tasteful and intelligent cinema.
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Yeah, it's not like ripping a man's still-beating heart out of his chest with one's bare hands is tasteful and intelligent cinema.
I've been feeling that, too. Everyone gets all down on how all the stuff with the aliens and everything is so silly and far-fetched, and it is. But is it really more far-fetched than a swordfight with a 2,000-year-old knight, or Indy briefly becoming a zombie, or bringing Sean Connery back to life via the Holy Grail? And yeah, the fridge thing was silly and unrealistic, but only slightly more silly and unrealistic than three people jumping out of a plane at 30,000 feet and using a rubber life raft as a parachute, then landing on the raft rightside up and riding it down a mountain into a river and surviving.
Just sayin'.
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As much as I hated this movie (and I really did), I thought the scene with the fridge was cute. It was a joke... I got it. I didn't demand bleeding realism from this.