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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 07, 2008, 05:41:32 PM
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http://thephoenix.com/Supplements/2008/50States/
enjoy,
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Hoo boy. Check out Florida. Lynyrd Skynyrd and Tom Petty. NOT FOR ME.
Their new band pick, though, is pretty awesome. Torche is touring with BORIS. YEAH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p30fXJOz5pc
Ha ha! I love that the above video is tagged as "Miami bass." I don't know if that was intentional or not, but it's HI-LARIOUS. L'Trimm epitomizes Miami Bass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaeNelsAOGo
All-time best band from Florida, no?
PS: I like this better than the 50 State Initiative.
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I'm pretty okay with the Colorado winners:
All-Time Best Band: Apples in Stereo
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Jello Biafra
Best New Band: DeVotchKa
I'd definitely agree about Apples in Stereo, and DeVotchKa are not bad. Not the biggest Jello fan, but at least neither String Cheese Incident nor Big Head Todd and the Monsters made the list, which was my biggest fear.
New Jersey needs about 10 more entries.
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I'm going to see Torche tomorrow night. Boris/Torche in lieu of live Best Show.
I have to say that Tom Petty does belong on any best of Florida list. He epitomizes competent rock.
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Hey, hey! Guess who's the all-time best band from NORTH* Carolina? If you guessed Superchunk, you're right!
*You try typing things correctly when you keep singing, "Well, I like all kinds of guys!" over and over again!!
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In the category of not surprising at all MN is represented by Dylan, Prince and the Mats. I don't like Doomtree very much I went to an party after their show once and a couple of the guys were not good guys. Maybe it was a bad night, but it kind of turned me off to them... although I didn't really like them in the first place.
Come on Laurie, I can see Skynyrd for sure, but there's nothin' wrong with Petty.
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Hey, hey! Guess who's the all-time best band from South Carolina? If you guessed Superchunk, you're right!
North Carolina, you Floridummy. ;D
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Maine:
All-Time Best Band: Rustic Overtones
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Juliana Hatfield
Best New Band: Big Blood
I know nuttin' about the first and third. I suspect the average Lubecker is ignorant of all three.
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Maine:
All-Time Best Band: Rustic Overtones
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Juliana Hatfield
Best New Band: Big Blood
I know nuttin' about the first and third. I suspect the average Lubecker is ignorant of all three.
Big Blood is great. I recommend checking them out.
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I live in Knoxville Tennessee. The good news?
All-Time Best Band: Big Star
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Aretha Franklin
Best New Act: Jay Reatard
The bad news?
All-Time Best Band: Big Star (Memphis)
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Aretha Franklin (Memphis)
Best New Act: Jay Reatard (Memphis)
Cities closer to Knoxville than Memphis?
Columbus Ohio
Richmond Virginia
Raleigh North Carolina
Macon Georgia
Tuscaloosa Alabama
Indianapolis Indiana
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Only other band from North Carolina I could think of is Corrosion of Conformity.
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Illinois:
All-Time Best Band: Big Black
Okay, who was in charge of this list? They don't suck.
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I live in Knoxville Tennessee. The good news?
All-Time Best Band: Big Star
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Aretha Franklin
Best New Act: Jay Reatard
The bad news?
All-Time Best Band: Big Star (Memphis)
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Aretha Franklin (Memphis)
Best New Act: Jay Reatard (Memphis)
Cities closer to Knoxville than Memphis?
Columbus Ohio
Richmond Virginia
Raleigh North Carolina
Macon Georgia
Tuscaloosa Alabama
Indianapolis Indiana
DFK, i knew youd be the first to bring that up.
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North Dakota:
Best New Band: Vaz
Hmm, pretty loose with the term "new" there. Vaz has been around since 1997.
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Illinois:
All-Time Best Band: Big Black
Okay, who was in charge of this list? They don't suck.
I'm thinking of a phrase that begins with Cheap and ends with Trick.
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New Jersey needs about 10 more entries.
The Mad Daddys
The Mad Daddys
The Mad Daddys
The Mad Daddys
The Mad Daddys
The Mad Daddys
The Mad Daddys
The Mad Daddys
Dramarama
R Stevie
Yup, 10 should do it.
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Ohio does OK:
All-time best band: Pere Ubu
All-time best solo artist: Screamin' Jay Hawkins
Best New Band: Times New Viking
All good entries, but Pere Ubu all-time best? Really? How about The Cramps? The Dead Boys? The Pagans? New Bomb Turks? The James Gang?
I've gotta second Gilly standing up for Tom Petty - not all-time best perhaps, but he's done a whole lot of good stuff over the years. I like Lynyrd Skynyrd too, but I won't talk about that here.
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OK, I've just browsed a few other states because I'm a sucker for this stuff and I've gotta say it's a pretty good list. Sure, there are some "HUH?" moments (Nirvana is the All-Time Best Band from Washington?), but also some inspired picks (The Wipers as All-Time Best Oregon band = Nice! Tim Hardin as All-Time Best Solo Act from Oregon is a daring but excellent pick). And I had to laugh at Don Ho's inclusion as Hawaii's best solo artist.
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Jeopardy champ Ken Jennings did one of these lists recently. I was surprised to find out that Ken Jennings is a indie rock fan:
http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=784 (http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=784)
http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=785 (http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=785)
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Jeopardy champ Ken Jennings did one of these lists recently. I was surprised to find out that Ken Jennings is a indie rock fan:
http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=784 (http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=784)
http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=785 (http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=785)
Wow, he even put Superchunk on his list. Color me impressed.
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I'm thinking of a phrase that begins with Cheap and ends with Trick.
Definitely a snub, which is why it's a daring (but not entirely inappropriate) pick.
Then again, picking Cheap Trick as the best band from IL is a little like saying Heart was the best band from WA.
This is definitely a punk-friendly list. Which I'm totally okay with. I'll never own a Cheap Trick album, gonna be honest.
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Jeopardy champ Ken Jennings did one of these lists recently. I was surprised to find out that Ken Jennings is a indie rock fan:
http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=784 (http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=784)
http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=785 (http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=785)
Wow, he even put Superchunk on his list. Color me impressed.
His trivial fails at not realizing Johnny Cash is from Arkansas, though. No one in their right mind would pick Evanescence over him.
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Jeopardy champ Ken Jennings did one of these lists recently. I was surprised to find out that Ken Jennings is a indie rock fan:
http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=784 (http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=784)
http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=785 (http://ken-jennings.com/blog/?p=785)
Wow, he even put Superchunk on his list. Color me impressed.
His trivial fails at not realizing Johnny Cash is from Arkansas, though. No one in their right mind would pick Evanescence over him.
My favorite:
Maryland Good Charlotte? If Maryland has produced a single legend (or even unappreciated critical darling) of a band, I can’t find it. Edited to add: Commenters pointed out that I missed the Orioles, a seminal doo-wop group with a very Maryland name.
Who knew Spike kept up with former Jeopardy champ blogs?
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Well, he could have always pulled the swapparoo Boston did in dumping Aerosmith on New Hampshire's lawn by pawning something off on Maryland from DC. There would HAVE to be examples. ???
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I live in Knoxville Tennessee. The good news?
All-Time Best Band: Big Star
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Aretha Franklin
Best New Act: Jay Reatard
The bad news?
All-Time Best Band: Big Star (Memphis)
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Aretha Franklin (Memphis)
Best New Act: Jay Reatard (Memphis)
Cities closer to Knoxville than Memphis?
Columbus Ohio
Richmond Virginia
Raleigh North Carolina
Macon Georgia
Tuscaloosa Alabama
Indianapolis Indiana
Dave, you can't whittle the pride down to your city. Tennessee totally represented and should be proud.
As should my native Georgia, whose best new band on the list, the Black Lips, are only a part of the best garage scene in America that is the ATL.
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Some of these sound sorta dubious -- Johnny Cash grew up in Arkansas, but was he really "from" there? Bird from Kansas (he grew up in Kansas City, MO)? OK, I'll give Minnesota Bob Dylan, fine, but I think he left Minnesota when he left college. I know the Jackson family hailed from Gary, IN, but didn't they move to LA pretty early on?
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I wondered the same thing about Apples In Stereo. I always associated them with the Athens/Elephant 6 scene.
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Some of these sound sorta dubious -- Johnny Cash grew up in Arkansas, but was he really "from" there? Bird from Kansas (he grew up in Kansas City, MO)? OK, I'll give Minnesota Bob Dylan, fine, but I think he left Minnesota when he left college. I know the Jackson family hailed from Gary, IN, but didn't they move to LA pretty early on?
I think I'd give Minnesota to Prince over Bob Dylan for that exact reason. Dylan went to NYC when he was like 18 whereas Prince has been at Paisley Park forever and discovered a lot of Minnesota talent.
It's cool that the Phoenix picked Superchunk for NC over someone like Ben Folds Five. At least they didn't pick Ryan Adams or Whiskeytown. I think the db's were from NC too so they'd be up there for Best NC Bands.
For Illinois, I'd prefer Wilco or Cheap Trick over Big Black.
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Apples in Stereo met in Colorado and did some of their early stuff there. They also have or had a studio in Denver that recorded a lot of the Elephant Six bands.
I'd agree that Georgia (or Louisiana? Was that just NMH?) has a pretty strong claim on them, but it's not like that area of the country is hurting for bands.
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All-Time Best Band: The Carpenters
All-Time Best Solo Artist: Liz Phair
Best New Band: MGMT
I can't say I was previously aware that any of those were from Connecticut. This has been very educational.
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Do you guys consider a band from an area if that's where they made it big? For example, there are a bunch of Athens bands that aren't from Athens but went there to get their break like the Drive-By Truckers. Or the Hold Steady... are they a Minneapolis band or a NYC band? They didn't make it big until NYC but most people consider them a MN band because they sing about Minneapolis. But, the Drive-By Truckers aren't singing about Athens yet they are considered an Athens band. I think the same goes for some of the Elephant Six bands that could be from Athens or Colorado.
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It seems like a lot of the time bands kind of self-define where they're from in those cases. Otherwise, I think the place where they made it big counts- that's probably where most would associate them with.
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For the purposes of how they figured all of this out, it is a matter of where they're from originally. Several of the states (like Alaska, etc) have "best band"s that are based elsewhere. They'd probably cast The Hold Steady as a MN band.
Vaz, as I mentioned earlier, formed their previous band in Fargo, relocated to Minneapolis, broke up, formed the new band (Vaz) in Minneapolis and then relocated to Brooklyn a few years later. They have never been based out of ND as a band.
The important thing is that people in their hometowns still maintain strong ties/levels of interest in the band. Folks in Fargo DO follow Vaz (probably more than folks in Brooklyn do). Just like how people in MN never let go of Dylan and people in Arkansas are still proud of the fact Cash came from their state.
I didn't know Biafra was from Colorado. I think it's cool, I learned something new today. But I bet EVERYONE in Colorado (who'd be inclined to care) knows he's one of theirs and maybe takes some pride in that, even if they don't always want to admit it.
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after a band moves, breaks up, forms a new band, then moves...its irrelevant where theyre from at that point.
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Petty's lyrics refer to metro LA almost as much as they refer to chicks committing suicide. But California did well enough without him.
Apples never lived in Athens, but they had plenty of places to crash there.
Ah, Big Black... people still get fired up about 'em!
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Tom Petty is definitely not cutting edge, and in some ways might be a Dylan/McGuinn clone, but at the same time he seems really genuine and unpretentious. The longer he's around, the more he seems really underrated to me. Looking back, he's made plenty of memorable straightforward rock songs.
Just felt like standing up for Tom Petty for no particular reason.
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after a band moves, breaks up, forms a new band, then moves...its irrelevant where theyre from at that point.
Seriously, I'm on board with you on that one.
Also, Petty has some good tunes!
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Tom Petty has more than good tunes he has an album full of classic ones. He just came after that sound was huge but he perfected it in my opinion. Kind of like the Zombies.
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Aside from Wildflowers, Petty albums have lousy filler ratios. But he's got several hours of hits I love, and he gets away with some of the most morbid lyrics in rock. Maybe not as morbid as Dr. Dre, California's reigning solo artist, but pretty dark for a Floridian.
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Death metal came from Florida. I don't think they're entirely a stranger to morbid down there. ;)
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thank god, we're finally transitioning the discussion from tom petty to metal.
(wait...)
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Yeah, so why don't I see the name "Deicide" on the Florida list?
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I believe Limp Bizkit and Creed were from there too.
Florida is responsible for quite a bit of dubious stuff.
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all this florida bashing- i didnt think you guys would throw the south under the bus like that.
wheres michael k?
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Then again, picking Cheap Trick as the best band from IL is a little like saying Heart was the best band from WA.
This is definitely a punk-friendly list. Which I'm totally okay with. I'll never own a Cheap Trick album, gonna be honest.
From this statement, one can only conclude you have never heard their debut. There's a reason Big Black (not Flag) covered them.
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Then again, picking Cheap Trick as the best band from IL is a little like saying Heart was the best band from WA.
This is definitely a punk-friendly list. Which I'm totally okay with. I'll never own a Cheap Trick album, gonna be honest.
From this statement, one can only conclude you have never heard their debut. There's a reason Black Flag covered them.
What Cheap Trick song did Black Flag cover? I'd like to hear that. Or are you talking about the Big Black cover of He's a Whore?
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Best band from NJ comes down to Misfits vs Four Seasons?
MOTHER 13!
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Illinois:
All-Time Best Band: Big Black
Okay, who was in charge of this list? They don't suck.
I'm thinking of a phrase that begins with Cheap and ends with Trick.
i'm just thankful it didn't start with smashing and end with pumpkins.
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I'm sad* that ZZ Top are not mentioned in the Texas results. I guess I can't be too upset about the 13th Floor Elevators winning (and I'm sure Billy Gibbons would second their nomination), but still.
* - OK, "sad" is overstating it. "Mildly inconvenienced" might be more appropriate.
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Then again, picking Cheap Trick as the best band from IL is a little like saying Heart was the best band from WA.
This is definitely a punk-friendly list. Which I'm totally okay with. I'll never own a Cheap Trick album, gonna be honest.
From this statement, one can only conclude you have never heard their debut. There's a reason Black Flag covered them.
What Cheap Trick song did Black Flag cover? I'd like to hear that. Or are you talking about the Big Black cover of He's a Whore?
Freudian slip. Original post fixed.
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From this statement, one can only conclude you have never heard their debut. There's a reason Big Black (not Flag) covered them.
I've met and worked with both Cheap Trick and Steve Albini. Albini would probably be amongst the first to ridicule the list, if I guessed anything at all. And then maybe he'd ridicule me for dismissing interest in Cheap Trick. ;)