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Title: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on August 04, 2008, 02:15:03 PM
As far as I'm concerned, this is a tough battle, but I'll vote with my heart.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: erika on August 04, 2008, 02:20:20 PM
It was a tie between Nasty and Ibold. So I went with the cuter of the two :)
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: gravy boat on August 04, 2008, 02:31:06 PM
I went with Young.

Also, any poll would find this to be true: Preston School of Industry's "All This Sounds Gas" is better than anything by SM and the Jicks.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: masterofsparks on August 04, 2008, 02:44:57 PM
I hope I don't come across as a jerk when I say this because I don't mean to, but before I discovered this message board, I honestly had no idea anybody still cared about Pavement.





So what's the story with these new-fangled compact disc things I've been hearing the young folks talk so much about?
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: gravy boat on August 04, 2008, 02:47:24 PM
I hope I don't come across as a jerk when I say this because I don't mean to, but before I discovered this message board, I honestly had no idea anybody still cared about Pavement.


Sometimes we need a break from the Cake - Pie wars.

Jerk.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: todd on August 04, 2008, 02:48:06 PM
If you pull a gun on Stephen Malkmus, you become my favorite Pavementeer.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on August 04, 2008, 02:55:06 PM
I hope I don't come across as a jerk when I say this because I don't mean to, but before I discovered this message board, I honestly had no idea anybody still cared about Pavement.


Couldn't have kept that to yourself, huh? 


Jerk. 

I quit the board.

Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: erika on August 04, 2008, 02:56:03 PM
I still love Pavement.

But Malkmus on his own? Feh.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Pat K on August 04, 2008, 03:33:57 PM
Gary Young. For "Plantman".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQiSgWGAc24[/youtube]
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Gilly on August 04, 2008, 03:34:11 PM
Gotta go with Young.

I don't think Malkmus has put out an awful solo record. None of them have been great but there's always a few redeeming songs on each one.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Beth on August 04, 2008, 03:41:27 PM
steven west!!! Because he's a good drummer (matches Pavement's sarcastic tones) and I liked what he did with the Silver Jews afterwards.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: masterofsparks on August 04, 2008, 03:43:16 PM
I hope I don't come across as a jerk when I say this because I don't mean to, but before I discovered this message board, I honestly had no idea anybody still cared about Pavement.


Couldn't have kept that to yourself, huh? 


Jerk. 

I quit the board.



Not if I quit first!
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: fyodor on August 04, 2008, 03:47:45 PM
Young. He really had no idea why he was there and what was going on.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Beth on August 04, 2008, 03:50:05 PM
I hope I don't come across as a jerk when I say this because I don't mean to, but before I discovered this message board, I honestly had no idea anybody still cared about Pavement.


Couldn't have kept that to yourself, huh? 


Jerk. 

I quit the board.



Not if I quit first!

You guys are jerks. I'm quitting the internet.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: erika on August 04, 2008, 03:51:48 PM
I hope I don't come across as a jerk when I say this because I don't mean to, but before I discovered this message board, I honestly had no idea anybody still cared about Pavement.


Couldn't have kept that to yourself, huh? 


Jerk. 

I quit the board.



Not if I quit first!

You guys are jerks. I'm quitting the internet.

If you quit the internet, I'll have no choice but to QUIT YOU!
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Mr. David Brooks on August 04, 2008, 04:53:02 PM
I voted for Robert, as I've long enjoyed his antics and professionalism, as well as sympathized with his obsession regarding games of sport.  I'm also a big supporter of the Jicks, Pig Lib is a new millenium classic to me. 

Oh, and Hello All.  I figured I'd jump in here since there are some recent openings.  I'll just be filling in where needed at first, but management has promised me a more solid position in the future. 
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 04, 2008, 05:05:39 PM
Pig Lib was a play-non-stop-til-days-turn-into-weeks record for me.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Amplituden on August 04, 2008, 07:46:50 PM
I went with Young.

Also, any poll would find this to be true: Preston School of Industry's "All This Sounds Gas" is better than anything by SM and the Jicks.

I would dispute this claim.

It may be equal to the first Malkmus solo joint, but all the other Malkmus records are much better then that record. 

Its not like I'm a royale or anything.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on August 05, 2008, 02:11:35 AM
Yeah, Malkmus may not have the underdog status, but come on... Pig Lib is fucking awesome, Face The Truth is Excellent, and the other two both have good songs on them.  I'm a huge Pavement dork, obviously, and i never even bothered to get that Preston School of Industries album.  Come on, man, the guy wrote like 5 out of 300 Pavement songs, and as much as people want to throw Malkmus under the bus, Spiral Stairs is the primary party responsible for all those The Fall comparisons.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: gravy boat on August 05, 2008, 06:36:12 AM
Yeah, Malkmus may not have the underdog status, but come on... Pig Lib is fucking awesome, Face The Truth is Excellent, and the other two both have good songs on them.  I'm a huge Pavement dork, obviously, and i never even bothered to get that Preston School of Industries album.  Come on, man, the guy wrote like 5 out of 300 Pavement songs, and as much as people want to throw Malkmus under the bus, Spiral Stairs is the primary party responsible for all those The Fall comparisons.

All right. I'm backing down. You win.  Pig Lib is better. 

But if you should ever see that PSI cd at a used record store, check it out. I think it's pretty good.


Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: andrew in philadelphia on August 05, 2008, 08:45:10 AM
Gary Young. For "Plantman".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQiSgWGAc24[/youtube]

wow - a real blast from the past. i remember beavis and butthead having a field day w/ this one..

my vote goes for steve west - based entirely on the fact that i know he is the sole breadwinner for his dozens of children (as depicted in the video for "painted soldiers.")
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: lemke on August 05, 2008, 09:14:23 AM
Hey maaan, what about Nigel Godrich?  He was, like, the 6th member on their swan song "Terror Twilight".   That album included greats such as "Platform Blues Jam" and "Simmer Simmer Simmer Down".
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Amplituden on August 05, 2008, 11:12:23 AM
I saw Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks a couple of weeks ago.

It was great, I got right up front.

I know people diss him for being a "slacker", but I love his loose casual stage presence.  He was being funny, making fun of Fleet Foxes for not showing up to the gig.  He gave props to the Raptors for signing Jermaine O'Neil! 

The Jicks are really tight which allows him to relax and have fun. (I think)



Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: andrew in philadelphia on August 05, 2008, 11:16:59 AM
i think it's pretty great he's got janet weiss as his drummer now.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Matthew_S on August 05, 2008, 11:33:47 AM
As far as I'm concerned, this is a tough battle, but I'll vote with my heart.

What is the criteria here?  Is it the non-lyricist member we like most?  Or who contributed most to the songs?

C'mon JJ2.0, detail matters!
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on August 06, 2008, 01:13:48 AM
Okay, I voted for Nastanovich.  It was between him and Gary Young.

I think Gary Young contributed more to the sound of the band than any of the other guys on the list, but Nastanovich was like the glue that held them all together (until Gary fell off, then he held steve west on maybe?).  Even sans-Young, he brought the weird.  The weird that could be harnessed.  A more disciplined weird than Young's, but a weird nonetheless.  He was also a total mensch to Malkmus' brooding snob during a painful 120 Minutes interview with Lewis Largent (both guys were awesome in this interview as good-cop, bad-cop; Malkmus disgusted with Largent's quesions, Nastanovich engaging Largent to sing "November Spawned a Monster" with him), and he was the band accountant.  So I voted for Nastanovich: Percussionist, Hype Man, Muse, Bookkeeper.

I guess that's all I ask, Matthew S.; that you follow your heart.  What's more important to YOU: sonic contribution, or emotional contribution, or good-looks or what?
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Beth on August 06, 2008, 01:35:15 AM
ONE STRONG FOR STEVEN WEST!!!
(http://www.matadorrecords.com/images/pavement/raygun_west.gif)

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on August 06, 2008, 01:44:31 AM
I'll give this 'til Friday and then I'll Lock it and declare a winner.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Matthew_S on August 06, 2008, 01:23:11 PM
Okay, I voted for Nastanovich.  It was between him and Gary Young.

I think Gary Young contributed more to the sound of the band than any of the other guys on the list, but Nastanovich was like the glue that held them all together (until Gary fell off, then he held steve west on maybe?).  Even sans-Young, he brought the weird.  The weird that could be harnessed.  A more disciplined weird than Young's, but a weird nonetheless.  He was also a total mensch to Malkmus' brooding snob during a painful 120 Minutes interview with Lewis Largent (both guys were awesome in this interview as good-cop, bad-cop; Malkmus disgusted with Largent's quesions, Nastanovich engaging Largent to sing "November Spawned a Monster" with him), and he was the band accountant.  So I voted for Nastanovich: Percussionist, Hype Man, Muse, Bookkeeper.

I guess that's all I ask, Matthew S.; that you follow your heart.  What's more important to YOU: sonic contribution, or emotional contribution, or good-looks or what?

Fair enough.  I too voted for Bob Nasty.  Mensch is apt, indeed.

I'm not pointing any fingers, but I always felt that those who lamented GaryYoung's departure from the band simply missed someone at whom to laugh ...
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Gregory on August 06, 2008, 01:35:35 PM
Nastanovich.
The clip of him drunk and playing air guitar along with AC/DC from the Pavement dvd is what put him over the top for me.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Tim K in DC on August 09, 2008, 04:36:06 AM
I voted for Nastanovich. If it was purely a drummer poll, I would have fallen in the Gary Young camp. When Pavement played Babyhead in Providence, Gary Young was offering apparently-LSD-soaked green beans to people in the crowd before their set. I said "No, thank you." They were still epic.
Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on August 09, 2008, 01:11:22 PM
Voting has been locked. 


The winner, by one vote, is...
GARY YOUNG

Thanks to all who participated in this important poll!


Title: Re: Who is the best member of Pavement who didn't write any songs?
Post by: Beth on August 09, 2008, 05:07:03 PM
Voting has been locked. 


The winner, by one vote, is...
GARY YOUNG

Thanks to all who participated in this important poll!






WEST WAS ROBBED!