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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: cutout on August 11, 2008, 02:57:47 PM
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Of all the message boards I read regularly, FoT is the only one not infiltrated (to my knowledge) by truthers promoting this film and others like it -
http://www.endgamethemovie.com/
I am liking the menacing green X-files-style graphics, though. Kudos to that.
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Bleat.
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Of all the message boards I read regularly, FoT is the only one not infiltrated (to my knowledge) by truthers promoting this film and others like it -
http://www.endgamethemovie.com/
I am liking the menacing green X-files-style graphics, though. Kudos to that.
A "psychopathic technocracy" sounds terrifically efficient. Sign me up! Ummm, I get to be one of the 20, and not one of the 80, right?
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prisonplanet.tv is a pretty catchy url. I'm surprised it wasn't already taken as a specialty porn site.
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I have a friend that teeters on the brink of trutherdom and it is an infuriatingly touchy subject because as soon as one uses reason to address the improbability of vast conspiracies, one simply becomes part of the conspiracy, or one of the sheeple.
Plus living in Austin means nonstop opportunities for truthers to throw money at Alex Jones. I keep trying to tell him that the real conspiracy is that Bill Hicks faked his death, gained 400lbs and became Alex Jones, think about it.
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I have a friend that teeters on the brink of trutherdom and it is an infuriatingly touchy subject because as soon as one uses reason to address the improbability of vast conspiracies, one simply becomes part of the conspiracy, or one of the sheeple.
Plus living in Austin means nonstop opportunities for truthers to throw money at Alex Jones. I keep trying to tell him that the real conspiracy is that Bill Hicks faked his death, gained 400lbs and became Alex Jones, think about it.
Alex Jones is just a little chubby not obese.
More and more he's using the technique of every other southern fried con man/preacher to gain wealth and acclaim.
There is a seed of truth to questioning the government and military industrial complex.
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/jul/tuskegee/
stories like that have made me question the official story my whole life.
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I used to listen to Jones but his fake crying and then quick composure really started to piss me off.
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Of all the message boards I read regularly, FoT is the only one not infiltrated (to my knowledge) by truthers promoting this film and others like it -
http://www.endgamethemovie.com/
I am liking the menacing green X-files-style graphics, though. Kudos to that.
I could be wrong here, but it kinda sounds like you're promoting this film..
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what's a "truther"?
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I believe it's the opposite of a darer.
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I could be wrong here, but it kinda sounds like you're promoting this film..
Viral promotion via making fun of something. It's all part of the new world order.
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Sheeple? I thought Marc Maron started that phrase on his defunt Air America Radio Show, Morning Sedition.
That was great radio. Are you a fan?
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I could be wrong here, but it kinda sounds like you're promoting this film..
Viral promotion via making fun of something. It's all part of the new world order.
Well, some say there's no such thing as bad publicity.
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I feel like I've only read about conspiracy theorists on the internet but have yet to actually meet one. I know a few potheads who believed that Loose Change/ 9/11 truth movement but they don't really count. I wanna meet a real nut who stays up late listening to Coast to Coast AM and acts like Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory.
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I feel like I've only read about conspiracy theorists on the internet but have yet to actually meet one. I know a few potheads who believed that Loose Change/ 9/11 truth movement but they don't really count. I wanna meet a real nut who stays up late listening to Coast to Coast AM and acts like Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory.
9/11 truthers are THE conspiracy theory douches.
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I believe that we don't shit about 9/11.
http://www.911weknow.com (http://www.911weknow.com)
I wonder what Tom thinks about it?
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I'm puzzled over the poll results I heard today, with Obama at 46% and McCain at 43% (margin of error: +/- 3%), so it's a statistical tie, which given the electoral map, I tend to think means a McCain victory. It's hard for me to fathom that this is where we are headed.
No comprehensive health care reform? No meaningful change in energy policy? Staying in Iraq for 5 more years? An even more conservative Supreme Court? I'm not saying Americans are sheep, but really? Come on guys.
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I'm not saying Americans are sheep, but really? Come on guys.
As we all learned from last night's show, most of America is racist.
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I'm puzzled over the poll results I heard today, with Obama at 46% and McCain at 43% (margin of error: +/- 3%), so it's a statistical tie, which given the electoral map, I tend to think means a McCain victory. It's hard for me to fathom that this is where we are headed.
No comprehensive health care reform? No meaningful change in energy policy? Staying in Iraq for 5 more years? An even more conservative Supreme Court? I'm not saying Americans are sheep, but really? Come on guys.
Look on the bright side. At least the poll is not the other way around.
After next week's convention, Obama is sure to get a significant bump in the polls.
There's still hope.
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I'm puzzled over the poll results I heard today, with Obama at 46% and McCain at 43% (margin of error: +/- 3%), so it's a statistical tie, which given the electoral map, I tend to think means a McCain victory. It's hard for me to fathom that this is where we are headed.
No comprehensive health care reform? No meaningful change in energy policy? Staying in Iraq for 5 more years? An even more conservative Supreme Court? I'm not saying Americans are sheep, but really? Come on guys.
Look on the bright side. At least the poll is not the other way around.
After next week's convention, Obama is sure to get a significant bump in the polls.
There's still hope.
Weird. While you were writing that^, I was writing this:
Do yourself a favor and just give up your faith in the American people. Or, failing that, in the democratic process. I did, four years ago. It's a little sad, but ultimately not as disappointing.
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I donated a lot of money to Kerry in the hopes he would fight a rigged election. He didn't, choosing political ambition over what is right. All those people in Ohio stood outside in the cold and rain waiting to vote for him and he just let them swing in the breeze.
I have not donated a single penny to the Dems since, but I still believe that we just can't give up.
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If 1984 is really coming true, Alex Jones is probably Goldstein. Ha
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I'm puzzled over the poll results I heard today, with Obama at 46% and McCain at 43% (margin of error: +/- 3%), so it's a statistical tie, which given the electoral map, I tend to think means a McCain victory. It's hard for me to fathom that this is where we are headed.
No comprehensive health care reform? No meaningful change in energy policy? Staying in Iraq for 5 more years? An even more conservative Supreme Court? I'm not saying Americans are sheep, but really? Come on guys.
Look on the bright side. At least the poll is not the other way around.
After next week's convention, Obama is sure to get a significant bump in the polls.
There's still hope.
Weird. While you were writing that^, I was writing this:
Do yourself a favor and just give up your faith in the American people. Or, failing that, in the democratic process. I did, four years ago. It's a little sad, but ultimately not as disappointing.
I guess I actually did that after the '04 election, basically. Haven't given a dime to the Democrats or Obama since then. But like Tom when a new Kevin Smith movie comes out, they've sucked me back in, and I hope for the best (but kind of expect the worst).
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A little hope does no harm. Don't let it get out of hand, though; you may be crushed come November.
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I think anyone who holds very high hopes for his or her candidate, even if elected, is cruising for major disillusionment. For American politics is a graveyard of dreams and aspirations.
(yukyukyuk)
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Life in general is that graveyard, no?
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I regularly think to myself when I meet a youngish person, "he/she is still at that age when his or her dreams have not yet been crushed." That's pretty sad, isn't it?
I'm gonna make a mid-year resolution: be more positive and optimistic!
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I'm the same, Fido. I try to hold my tongue as far as possible when I'm with them. They might as well enjoy these moments; they're are few enough of them.
Good luck with that midyear resolution. If you keep to it, I'll amazed and envious.
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Yeah, some time like 4 or 5 years ago ( I guess that would make me only 25, but still...) I came to some major league disillusionment, but weirdly, it's also helped me get some perspective on what's important in life. When I talk to undergrads at the art school here, every once in a long while they'll say something like "You're so bitter!" but I don't feel bitter. I'm just like "Yeah, you'll graduate, you'll get out there. You've just gotta keep trying to make stuff. Some people you know will hit it big really fast, others won't, a lot of people will stop making art completely. If you can still bother yourself to create anything at all after three years, you'll be ahead of a lot of people and way behind a select few others who are either just lucky or have trust funds." This sounds depressing to someone coming out of school, but it's really not as bad as it sounds. When you realize you're not really God's Genius Gift to the Earth you have to re-assess why you care about what you care about, and re-invest in what is actually important to you.
Here's another conversation from work. This happened today:
ME: So you cleaned up. Thanks.
STUDENT: Yeah, how does it look?
ME: Pretty good. But it still smells.
STUDENT: Really? What does it smell like.
ME: Rotting food.
STUDENT: Oh Yeah. Not too sure what we can do about that.
ME: Probably find the rotting food and throw it out.
STUDENT: Yeah, the thing is, we wanted to start composting. But then we started getting those little flies that fly around and lay tons of eggs in everything--?
ME: Fruit flies?
STUDENT: Yeah, flies.
ME: Yeah, composting is an outdoor activity.
STUDENT: Okay.
ME: I reject your composting scheme.
STUDENT: What?
ME: Don't do that anymore.
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Sheeple? I thought Marc Maron started that phrase on his defunt Air America Radio Show, Morning Sedition.
That was great radio. Are you a fan?
Yes! That show was great! Maron didn't invent "sheeple", but he incorporated it as a catchphrase for the show. He was having a bit of fun at the expense of the conspiracy-minded. Although he wasn't entirely unsympathetic to that kind of thinking. What I liked about Maron is that he was willing to question himself and his own beliefs. He tended to be less bullheaded and willfully ignorant than other political radio types.
But most of all, the show was FUNNY. Hey HaroldBlvd, you should check out this treasure trove of archived bits from "Morning Sedition":
http://www.thesnotgreensea.com/
... everybody else should check it out too. Believe it or not, Air America used to have a good show.
Best Show fans might be interested in the recurring "Sammy the Stem Cell", because it sounds like it may have been inspired by Timmy Von Trimble. But that might be coincidental ... The other bit everyone should give a try is "Rapture Watch"
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thanks for that link. I really miss the Morning Sedition.
I used to go to live broadcasts they did around the city. Gpt to meet Run from Rum DMC at one show. He even autographed my Run DMC album.
My favorite character on that show was Lawton Smalls. that was Kent Jones calling in as southern right wing nut. His calls would start out all angry and then he would cry like a baby to Marc, only to come back mean and nasty. Probably inspired by Scharpling and Wurster but it would alway leave me laughing.
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thanks for that link. I really miss the Morning Sedition.
I used to go to live broadcasts they did around the city. Gpt to meet Run from Rum DMC at one show. He even autographed my Run DMC album.
My favorite character on that show was Lawton Smalls. that was Kent Jones calling in as southern right wing nut. His calls would start out all angry and then he would cry like a baby to Marc, only to come back mean and nasty. Probably inspired by Scharpling and Wurster but it would alway leave me laughing.
Lawton Smalls is hilarious ... I guess that Kent Jones still calls in as Lawton on some of the other Air America shows. That's cool you got to see some of the live broadcasts ... were you at the live show where Pendejo the Revolutionary made an appearance.
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I do remember the show they did at The Coffee Shop in Manhattan where Pendejo showed up. I'm trying to remember if that was Kent Jones as well.
Unfortunately Air America fired Kent Jones earlier this year. Rachel Maddow was very upset about it on the air. It seems that Air America's management was hell bent on eliminating any of the comic elements from their show. Too bad.
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It seems that Air America's management was hell bent on eliminating any of the comic elements from their show. Too bad.
It seems they're generally hellbent on eliminating stuff that's any good at all.
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Ahmen to that. It's a shame too. We could really use a vital left wing radio network to spread the word this year. i remember when they started in 04. I used to check their website everyday to see how many more stations they had added. Even though Kerry lost it was good to have voices like Maron or Mike Malloy or even Al Franken to call out the Bush Crime Family on their lies.
I'm proud the Best Show had a hand in some the programming there.
They've themselves nearly irrelevant these days. the NYC station will play only two AAR shows. They cut out two hours of Sam Seder's Sunday show.
The shame of it is that good radio is very rarely rewarded.
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Wizards, Levitators, Alex Jones and Michelle Malkin converge:
http://www.fortcollinsnow.com/article/20080825/NEWS/1306569/1054