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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Patrick on August 26, 2008, 02:25:21 PM
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anyone check out the new album? its another quality product from Nas. not his best but its got some good stuff on it. It has a very focused feel to it that is simmilar to his early albums, rather then some of those rambling albums that he put out in the late 90's. Anyway, if you are into HipHop or into older nas, i would say check it out.
what a banner year for hip hop.... killer albums from the Roots, Nas, Gza, Rza and this fall hopefully a new Mos Def album.
i wonder if trembling eagle hates it?
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what a banner year for hip hop.... killer albums from the Roots, Nas, Gza, Rza and this fall hopefully a new Mos Def album.
I was just wondering if there was any new hip hop worth listening to lately. What about rappers that didn't debut in the early 90's? Anything good?
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what a banner year for hip hop.... killer albums from the Roots, Nas, Gza, Rza and this fall hopefully a new Mos Def album.
I was just wondering if there was any new hip hop worth listening to lately. What about rappers that didn't debut in the early 90's? Anything good?
Wale.
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Wale.
I'll assume you're not talking about the group that did "Hobo Humpin' Slobo Babe."
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Elzhi's released/ing a couple good records this year (the tour-only Europass and The Preface).
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chris
i have been digging the Cool Kids, i heard them on Billy Jams show a few weeks ago, also Truth Universal is worth checking out.
i always like what Billy Jam and Noah are playing during their shows... good stuff.
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If Trembling Eagle hates it, it'll be the first time he and I agree on something then.
I was looking forward to the album, but it's kind of a stinker. I listened to it twice through when I first got it, haven't looked back since. Not enough energy, which is funny considering how much energy he put into all the shenanigans leading up to the release of it.
"That's a one hot album every fifteen year average..." ;)
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what a banner year for hip hop.... killer albums from the Roots, Nas, Gza, Rza and this fall hopefully a new Mos Def album.
Are you crazy? Decent albums by a few people who've done better is not a banner year. Wale and the Cool Kids are good, but where is the great hip hop single of the year? You can never judge a year in music from August, but I'd say no.
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I didn't even bother listening to it. I'm sure I'll get around to it in a year or 2. Nas is a talented guy but suffers from the rest of the arrested development most of mainstream (and a lot of underground) rap does. Lazy writing/thinking on limited subject matter. I know he's trying to tackle bigger issues but since his 2nd album he always trails off after a verse or two into same 'ole same 'ole.
I'd encourage anybody interested in Nas to go back and listen to 1994's Illmatic. What a great record front to back, the whole thing just FEELS like a New York winter. Illmatic, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Dah Shinin', Hell on Earth, now THAT was banner season for rap.
I had a feeling OB4CL was a special moment complete work that would stand alone and unique in genre, I honestly never expected anymore standout stuff from Raekwon, Ghostface and I feel that's how their careers played out. But Nas I expected to grow into a more complete artist he's got the pedigree and everything, him and Eminem are two of the biggest let downs of that generation of rappers in my opinion.
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wale
coolkids
rhymefest
how different is the new nas album from the green lantern mixtapr.
I aint saying that i'm Nasir
3zm just saying raps dead when I'm not here.
Wale is my favorite now.
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I saw him doing Sly Fox on Colbert last month and it certainly didn't make me interested in checking out the album.
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Roots album is ok. There hasn't been much for new hip-hop this year but I do I need to hear the Wale album. I agree with Chris L, I'm getting tired of hearing the same voices. There aren't any great new voices though. Lil' Wayne had a few songs I liked I guess.
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wales seinfeld inspired mixtape is free on his website
I also really like The Grouch's new album. it was a little sparse at first, but its amazing.
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I was slightly disappointed by the Nas album but there was enough good stuff on there I suppose. I just wish he could make another mind-blower like "Illmatic". But a newish album I can't recommend enough is "I Pledge Allegiance to the Grind II" by Killer Mike. So fucking good.
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It's from last year but Brother Ali's The Undisputed Truth is worth a listen if you haven't heard it.
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I liked the Talib Kweli and Wu Tang albums from last year as well. I'm not saying there isn't any good hip-hop anymore, just in 2008. Take Me Home is one of the best hip-hop songs in a long time.
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Lord T and Eloise: http://www.myspace.com/lordtandeloise
Sole: www.myspace.com/timholland
Atmosphere: www.myspace.com/atmosphere
Sage Francis: www.myspace.com/sagefrancis
...off the top of my head. im sure everyone has heard of these, or thinks theyre terrible. other hip hop/rap i enjoy is mainstream so i skipped that list.
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I really likes Brother Ali's album, but I don't know how well it's going to hold up through time.
Killer Mike was really spotty for me, but it's a little outside my norm when it comes to rap.
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Roots album was more than alright, and Immortal Techniques newness is nice too. Atmoshphere's album is pretty alright, if you can get over the slam poetry pomposity of it.
There's still hope for the year though. Kardinal Offishall is dropping something soon, and Detox might actually come out this year too (although hearing about Dre's kid dying today mighta nixed that). Plus, new De La cannot be far off, it can't!
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I've heard GZA Pro Tools isn't bad but once again, we're treading in the 90's. I like mainstream hip-hop more than alternative hip-hop but the radio hits stink this year. I'm looking forward to T.I., I haven't heard the new single yet but it's supposed to be good.
I've never liked Atmosphere too much or emo-rap (yeah, yeah I know all rap is emotional) for that matter. Brother Ali is really the only guy I like out of that scene and I think he just is pegged into that scene, he's more mainstream than the rest.
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wales seinfeld inspired mixtape is free on his website
I also really like The Grouch's new album. it was a little sparse at first, but its amazing.
I know who that is and I have that CD but I still, for a split second, read that as The Gorch. Maybe he (that is, Mr. Gorchnik) should cover "Chain Hang Low" or something.
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That post calls for applause!
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I liked Black Milk's "Popular Demand" a lot; the lyrics aren't that memorable, but the production reminds me of J Dilla.
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what a banner year for hip hop.... killer albums from the Roots, Nas, Gza, Rza and this fall hopefully a new Mos Def album.
Are you crazy? Decent albums by a few people who've done better is not a banner year. Wale and the Cool Kids are good, but where is the great hip hop single of the year? You can never judge a year in music from August, but I'd say no.
i think the roots album is pure fire, and the genius album is hot stuff as well.
i dont really follow rap radio so i cant think of this years club banger.
the david banner album is kidna funny, and to be honest i really disliked the NERD album.
we are never gonna have another 1988 or 1993 for that matter, but good rap still exists.
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we are never gonna have another 1988 or 1993 for that matter, but good rap still exists.
Yeah, in my very casual view I think Public Enemy are as good as rap will ever get. I used to think the genre had unlimited sonic potential and these visionaries would come along to push it to unforseen heights and poetic importance, but instead most hip hop became either too shallow or too self-conscious and self-referential. There are still colorful personalities and some good albums now and then but probably not a whole lot of timeless music.
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we are never gonna have another 1988 or 1993 for that matter, but good rap still exists.
Yeah, in my very casual view I think Public Enemy are as good as rap will ever get. I used to think the genre had unlimited sonic potential and these visionaries would come along to push it to unforseen heights and poetic importance, but instead most hip hop became either too shallow or too self-conscious and self-referential. There are still colorful personalities and some good albums now and then but probably not a whole lot of timeless music.
Well, Chris, I know we're both very "street" and we like to "keep it real," but let's keep in mind that we're probably not all that up on contemporary hip-hop music. Speaking for myself, even though I listened to a little Jay-Z and Wu-Tang, I wasn't really that into it, and it's only in the past 4-5 years that I've started to realize that they, and Biggie, Tupac, Nas, Ghostface, Kanye, and others were actually pretty good. I did listen to some rap in the 15 or so years since I had been in tune with it, but it was mostly just Native Tongues stuff that was more popular with the white folk anyway.
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i personally wasnt into the nas record at all
but also thought id make a point - those classic 93/94/95 era records are legendary, but they werent perceived as such when they came out. 36chambers/illmatic/ready to die/etc.....werent recognized immediately as classics.
i dont think much classic stuff is being made lately but im a grumpy old product of the 90s...who knows what the 16yr ol furutre snobs are gonna consider classic. probably the carter3 or somehting.
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Grumpy old men.
I'd bet something from Ludacris, maybe one of those D-block kids, even that second album from Kanye is considered pretty highly. Or even stuff I can't stand like T.I. or 50's second album might get classic status too.
The whole political/conscious rap is lost on kids today for the most part, as well it should be because most of it is awful. Not to mention it's now so ingrained into the culture anyways, but that doesn't mean there isn't plenty sprinkled into the non Busdriver or Dead Prez groups of today too. Although Revolutionary volume 2 by Immortal Technique is something I hear mentioned a lot in the white/college hip hop circles and that's pretty politically slanted, so maybe I'm just a dummy.
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what a banner year for hip hop.... killer albums from the Roots, Nas, Gza, Rza and this fall hopefully a new Mos Def album.
I was just wondering if there was any new hip hop worth listening to lately. What about rappers that didn't debut in the early 90's? Anything good?
Wale.
Yeah, agreed. Loved the Hate is the New Love mixtape and 100 Miles and Running. The Mixtape About Nothing is also a whole lotta fun.
I also would say that Rhymefest's Man in the Mirror Mixtape along with the Cool Kids have been pretty good newish stuff.
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I was slightly disappointed by the Nas album but there was enough good stuff on there I suppose. I just wish he could make another mind-blower like "Illmatic". But a newish album I can't recommend enough is "I Pledge Allegiance to the Grind II" by Killer Mike. So fucking good.
I liked "That's Life" off the first Pledge Allegiance to the Grind mixtape but didn't care much for the rest. Is this one any better?
And for all the talk about needing a good hip hop single, I think "DontGetIt" by Lil Wayne and "Jockin Jay-Z" by Jay Z are two great (potential) singles.
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but also thought id make a point - those classic 93/94/95 era records are legendary, but they werent perceived as such when they came out. 36chambers/illmatic/ready to die/etc.....werent recognized immediately as classics.
"Illmatic" got 5 mics from The Source back when they had clout, and I'm pretty sure "Ready to Die" got 4.5. On the other hand, I just checked Pazz & Jop for 1994, and Illmatic finished at #33 - 11 spots behind Warren G.'s "Regulate ... G Funk Era."
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oh yeah, well I just found out there are more Wale mixtapes out there, which is the best news I've gotten in a while.
http://www.elitaste.com/forum/index.php?topic=7.0