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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: joanna on September 03, 2008, 01:20:29 PM
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where's the poll? i would create it myself to save tom the time, but i don't have the finalized list from the show last night.
i'm ready to start campaigning for dustin diamond to make the top five!
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where's the poll? i would create it myself to save tom the time, but i don't have the finalized list from the show last night.
i'm ready to start campaigning for dustin diamond to make the top five!
Lyle from Achewood is a jerk. Hey, did you get a copy of the great outdoor fight?
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I've had jerks popping into my head all day, it's killing me.
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I'll get the poll up in the next day or so.
Tom.
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I think I just saw all five of them on TV, speaking in succession.
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I was actually hoping The H-Man would call in and suggest Hitler.
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I was trying to call in to suggest Tom Leykis, but the line was busy and busy and busy. Did he wind up making the list?
Oh, and I also wanted to mention Janice Dickinson ... In hopes she'd track me down and slap my bottom. Don't judge!
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Nancy Grace ... a much better candidate for "female jerk" than Hillary Clinton.
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I was actually hoping The H-Man would call in and suggest Hitler.
Ha! Yeah, that guy HATES Hitler.
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Nancy Grace ... a much better candidate for "female jerk" than Hillary Clinton.
YES! I had a couple other female jerk ideas, specifically Sharon Stone and Madonna.
Also, the jerk couple would be Spencer & Heidi from the Hills.
A few other names that I don't think were mentioned on air:
Ron Jeremy
Russell Crowe
Woody Allen
Ted Nugent
John Mayer - although he fits that Criss Angel role
the aging athlete/muscle:
Hulk Hogan/The Ultimate Warrior
Lawrence Taylor/Bill Romanowski
Roger Clemens/Barry Bonds
the self-important jerk:
Richard Gere
Sean Penn
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Re: Bruce Campbell, for anyone who might think it's unfair to tar him with the jerk brush for the characters he plays, this (http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/33023?q=node/33023) Q&A report always stayed with me. Some guy asks if he's ever gonna do full-frontal nudity, which admittedly is a pretty dumb/creepy question, but I think there are better ways to show your dismay than this high school "ewww gays" garbage.
So yeah, Bruce Campbell = jerk, I reckon.
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Charlie Sheen is a prime jerk example, with his stupid loafers, cargo shorts and bowling shirts ALL the time. Also, the hookers. Ugh.
Frank Miller woulda been a great comic jerk. Runner up mentions for Tom Brevoort and Charles Brownstein.
Hasselbeck from The View would have been a way better suggestion than Whoopi imo.
And Klee Irwin would be the huckster doctor on jerk island.
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the aging athlete/muscle:
Hulk Hogan/The Ultimate Warrior
Lawrence Taylor/Bill Romanowski
Roger Clemens/Barry Bonds
Romanowski! Nice call. He's douchebag jock personified.
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Terrell Owens made my list.
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I lean towards Brett Favre as my athlete jerk.
The whole "simple boy from the south" act in juxtaposition with having a private plane and compulsively text messaging.
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the aging athlete/muscle:
Hulk Hogan/The Ultimate Warrior
Lawrence Taylor/Bill Romanowski
Roger Clemens/Barry Bonds
Romanowski! Nice call. He's douchebag jock personified.
You know the guy is a jerk when the second section of his wiki is titled "Altercations".
The worst is probably in 2003 when he punched his own teammate, breaking his eye socket and forcing the guy to retire. Plus he's an admitted steroid user. Hell, he even has an autobiography. Now this creep is coaching his son's freshman football team.
And he's got a blog: http://www.billromanowskiblog.com/
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I think I mentioned this in Fot Chat, but I'd like to petition to move Penn Jilette off the list, I know the guy is a blowhard and a libertarian mouthpiece but I don't think his jerkitude has any mass appeal as most people kind of ignore the guy.
I also appreciate what he did for Jad and David Fair with regards to getting more of the Half Japanese catalog out and that was certainly NOT jerky.
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Submitted for your consideration, Prince is a jerk. I can not verify either of these stories as I heard them on a podcast (I don't want to say which one, but I will say that Tom feels as though it is "never funny") but I present them as evidence nontheless:
1) Prince was set to appear on TRL but he and his entourage were running very late. Finally at the end of the show when they make their way to the set, Carson Daily speaks with Prince.
"Hey, Prince, we're glad to have you, but it would've been great if you were here on time because we had a lot of great stuff we wanted to do with you."
Prince replies: "I don't use time."
"Well, what do you use?"
Prince thinks this over for a moment, and then gives his answer. "Truth."
An awesome reply, but very jerky if true.
2) Prince, briefly dated Carmen Electra and (allegedly) while they lived together she was instructed not to speak to him unless spoken to. Jerk.
3) Batdance (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2j4bg_prince-batdance_music).
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I'm still leaning towards Bill Belichick as the sports representative on the list. The Jerk Squad needs a Hannibal Smith type, a gruff, crusty, old guy leader. I think Belichick has what it takes to be the Warren Oates of jerks.
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Jeremy Shockey. Is that how you spell it?
Also, Peyton Manning.
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Just kidding
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I also appreciate what he did for Jad and David Fair with regards to getting more of the Half Japanese catalog out...
Your Honor, ladies and gentleman of the jury, the prosecution rests its case.
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I think I mentioned this in Fot Chat, but I'd like to petition to move Penn Jilette off the list, I know the guy is a blowhard and a libertarian mouthpiece but I don't think his jerkitude has any mass appeal as most people kind of ignore the guy.
I also appreciate what he did for Jad and David Fair with regards to getting more of the Half Japanese catalog out and that was certainly NOT jerky.
Agreed. Unfortunately, as much as I want to completely write that jerk off, his involvement with 50 Skidillion Watts is sort of the FWD equivalent of a presidential pardon.
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1) Prince was set to appear on TRL but he and his entourage were running very late. Finally at the end of the show when they make their way to the set, Carson Daily speaks with Prince.
"Hey, Prince, we're glad to have you, but it would've been great if you were here on time because we had a lot of great stuff we wanted to do with you."
Prince replies: "I don't use time."
"Well, what do you use?"
Prince thinks this over for a moment, and then gives his answer. "Truth."
An awesome reply, but very jerky if true.
This actually gets him off the jerk list for me because it was in reply to Carson Daly, and featured on TRL. I think Prince is just morphing into the Dave Chappelle impression.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/jester911_2006/_Dave_Chappelle_As_Prince1.jpg)
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So I was listening to Tuesday's show while unpacking my apartment and laughing out loud at the Fab-Five of Jerks (or the Traveling Wilbury's of Jerks) when somebody called in about Philip DeFranco. Based on Tom's reaction I HAD to see a video of this guy.
I watched this one: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8gjTKB_aVg[/youtube]
I was not prepared for it. He's the kind of bad where you don't even know how to explain it. How is he awful? I can't even try to summarize it. There's no way. It's almost like the belief in God. There's no way explaining how you have faith, it's just that you do. Accordingly, there's no way to explain how awful he is you just have to watch it. I think Philip DeFranco is the Jesus of jerks.
He even ended it by saying "...and you've just been 'Philled' in." Amazing.
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Jim Kelly needs a spot on this list. Do we have a Drunk Jerk yet?
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So I was listening to Tuesday's show while unpacking my apartment and laughing out loud at the Fab-Five of Jerks (or the Traveling Wilbury's of Jerks) when somebody called in about Philip DeFranco. Based on Tom's reaction I HAD to see a video of this guy.
I watched this one: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8gjTKB_aVg[/youtube]
I was not prepared for it. He's the kind of bad where you don't even know how to explain it. How is he awful? I can't even try to summarize it. There's no way. It's almost like the belief in God. There's no way explaining how you have faith, it's just that you do. Accordingly, there's no way to explain how awful he is you just have to watch it. I think Philip DeFranco is the Jesus of jerks.
He even ended it by saying "...and you've just been 'Philled' in." Amazing.
If you loaded up the Large Hadron Collider with the fundamental particles of Ego and Obliviousness the resulting reaction could produce a Phillip Defranchole.
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You can vote for as many people as you want when you vote, but you can only vote once a day.
And please keep in mind that we are voting for the FINAL THREE MEMBERS of the Fab Five Of Jerks. So far the squad consists of:
Philip DeFranco
Mike Francesa
So we need a diverse variety of jerks to balance out this team.
Frank Sinatra was removed because the jerks need to be living jerks.
I have added names suggested by posters on the thread.
Vote often and remember - your influcence counts - USE IT (to decide who are the Fab Five of Jerks)!
Tom.
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Am I not seeing Phillip Defranco? Or is he such a lock that he's not listed?
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Thanks for adding Nancy Grace on there ... a step towards equal opportunity and representation in the world of jerk-dom.
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Did Tom add Tom Leykis to the list? He could be a top 5 jerk and top 5 creep.
I just read about a new reality show in this week's TV Guide Fall Preview issue... Hulk Hogan Celebrity Championship Wrestling (Premieres 10/18 on CMT). This was their description: "The world champ forms a wrestling team made up of reality-TV retreads (Danny Bonaduce, Dustin Diamond, Todd Bridges, & Tiffany)."
Two potential fab five jerks on a program hosted by another jerk, Hulk Hogan!
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1) Prince was set to appear on TRL but he and his entourage were running very late. Finally at the end of the show when they make their way to the set, Carson Daily speaks with Prince.
"Hey, Prince, we're glad to have you, but it would've been great if you were here on time because we had a lot of great stuff we wanted to do with you."
Prince replies: "I don't use time."
"Well, what do you use?"
Prince thinks this over for a moment, and then gives his answer. "Truth."
An awesome reply, but very jerky if true.
This actually gets him off the jerk list for me because it was in reply to Carson Daly, and featured on TRL. I think Prince is just morphing into the Dave Chappelle impression.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/jester911_2006/_Dave_Chappelle_As_Prince1.jpg)
I couldn't tell you what podcast it was on, but I'm pretty sure that was Chris Hardwick telling the story. And I think it's slightly too awesome (TRL is hardly an institution to be respected) to be used as jerk evidence.
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can you add brett favre? maybe in the hero/patron saint to an entire state category where he becomes bloated by his own ego and now he's DEAD to me.
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Glad Leykis made it on to the list. Anybody who goes on the air, telling his legion of morons how to induce miscarriages (which I've heard him do on the show), should be the top ... Or I suppose the very bottom of the Jerk heap.
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I couldn't call in last night but I'd really like to nominate David Crosby ex post facto.
Crack-smoking, menage-a-trios-endorsing, Crazy-Horse-hating, gun-toting, Roseanne-guest-starring, liver-stealing, sperm-donating, hasn't-written-a-good-song-in-over-30-years, rich hippie baby boomer jerk.
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So I was listening to Tuesday's show while unpacking my apartment and laughing out loud at the Fab-Five of Jerks (or the Traveling Wilbury's of Jerks) when somebody called in about Philip DeFranco. Based on Tom's reaction I HAD to see a video of this guy.
I watched this one: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8gjTKB_aVg[/youtube]
I was not prepared for it. He's the kind of bad where you don't even know how to explain it. How is he awful? I can't even try to summarize it. There's no way. It's almost like the belief in God. There's no way explaining how you have faith, it's just that you do. Accordingly, there's no way to explain how awful he is you just have to watch it. I think Philip DeFranco is the Jesus of jerks.
He even ended it by saying "...and you've just been 'Philled' in." Amazing.
Oh THAT Philip Defranco ... I've run across his videos a few times. I didn't know he was on Tom's radar though. His reaction was so hilarious. I was listening to the show again while working at the hotel last night and Tom's Super Groan started while I was making a wake-up call. The guest I was waking up asked, "Steve, what IS that?" I told him I'd explain after he had his coffee.
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Raffy, you just blew my mind with that video. That guy's a celebrity of some kind?
I don't really think Kevin Smith is a jerk. I'm no fan of his work, but everything I've heard about the guy suggests he's pretty affable. He just got lucky, and I think he knows it.
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I don't think we mentioned Donald Trump. As for the female jerk, how about Paris Hilton (but is she smart enough to be a jerk?)?
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mentions for Tom Brevoort
Tom Brevoort? Really? Was he a dick to you at a convention or something?
Ron Jeremy
He seemed nice enough at Christmas dinner when I was 10.
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1) Prince was set to appear on TRL but he and his entourage were running very late. Finally at the end of the show when they make their way to the set, Carson Daily speaks with Prince.
"Hey, Prince, we're glad to have you, but it would've been great if you were here on time because we had a lot of great stuff we wanted to do with you."
Prince replies: "I don't use time."
"Well, what do you use?"
Prince thinks this over for a moment, and then gives his answer. "Truth."
An awesome reply, but very jerky if true.
I think this beyond jerky and not-jerky in a Nietzschean sort of way. It's going to be my excuse for always being late from now until I die.
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Don't be a jerk.
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Michael Moore is also a supreme jerk. He's on my fab five of jerks list.
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I nominate James L. Dolan - Madison Square Garden Chairman as a "grade A" jerk.
A spoiled rich rich kid, terrible business man, sexist bully, and awful musician.
Under his management both the Rangers and the Knicks have declined in performance, with the Knicks having their worst season ever last year.
Thanks to a very public sexual harassment case against Isiah Thomas and MSG, the world got to hear the seamy details of the loutish corporate culture cultivated by Dolan. The guy is known for his short temper; he fired an employee for serving flat soda.
His Blues Band -jd and the straight shot. Soulless white-man blues sung by a multimillionaire born into luxury and privilege.
http://www.jdandthestraightshot.com/
The Garden Needs a Warning Label - A must read
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/03/sports/basketball/03roberts.html
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Michael Moore is also a supreme jerk. He's on my fab five of jerks list.
False.
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I nominate James L. Dolan - Madison Square Garden Chairman as a "grade A" jerk.
A spoiled rich rich kid, terrible business man, sexist bully, and awful musician.
Under his management both the Rangers and the Knicks have declined in performance, with the Knicks having their worst season ever last year.
Thanks to a very public sexual harassment case against Isiah Thomas and MSG, the world got to hear the seamy details of the loutish corporate culture cultivated by Dolan. The guy is known for his short temper; he fired an employee for serving flat soda.
His Blues Band -jd and the straight shot. Soulless white-man blues sung by a multimillionaire born into luxury and privilege.
http://www.jdandthestraightshot.com/
The Garden Needs a Warning Label - A must read
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/03/sports/basketball/03roberts.html
I don't know. I think he brings too much humor and incompetence to be a jerk. I've bought so many newspapers because I knew I'd read more about him.
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I couldn't tell you what podcast it was on, but I'm pretty sure that was Chris Hardwick telling the story. And I think it's slightly too awesome (TRL is hardly an institution to be respected) to be used as jerk evidence.
I don't disagree and therefore will retract piece of evidence one. Watch the "Batdance" video twice.
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I like Bruce Campbell. I don't wanna deify the guy, but do we have evidence he's a jerk?
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Tom Brevoort? Really? Was he a dick to you at a convention or something?
haha no, sadly nothing that fun.
He just does his job poorly, mishandles projects, which results in him having to do a lot of spin - where he comes off as a jerk most of the time. He's become the Puff Daddy of comic book editors too, I hear his name and see him giving more interviews about books than the talent who made them. Plus he's just a little too smug in the grand scheme of things I think.
/nerd rant.
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What jerky stuff has Criss Angel done besides be a guido magician?
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What jerky stuff has Criss Angel done besides be a guido magician?
yeah i think criss angel and several others on here belong more in the "douche" category than "jerk."
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What jerky stuff has Criss Angel done besides be a guido magician?
yeah i think criss angel and several others on here belong more in the "douche" category than "jerk."
I thought he got into a fight with an audience member('s ?) on that NBC show he had last year? That's pretty jerky.
I know he's tried to push his weight around to other warlocks before too, acting like a tough guy and getting in their faces shoving them etc. Plus aren't douche and jerk kind of interchangeable terms?
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Jello Biafra. His voice is nails on a chalkboard, he's the left's version of Ann Coulter, and he hates ELO.
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not sure if it's been said yet but what about Bear Grylls? He really comes off as a jerk to me...anybody else think so? He's the host of Man vs. Wild.
I kind of wish it were Man vs. Wylde instead now that I think about it...
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What jerky stuff has Criss Angel done besides be a guido magician?
yeah i think criss angel and several others on here belong more in the "douche" category than "jerk."
I propose that the "douche" is a jerk subcategory and that there should be a "douche-jerk" representative. When it comes down to it, even though I suggested Criss Angel, Joe Francis is pretty much the ultimate DJ.
The more I learn about PhillyD.tv, the worse it gets. Make sure to check out his twitter (http://twitter.com/phillyd)
I still say Romanowski belongs on the team as the muscle. I don't know who else on the list has viciously attacked a teammate resulting in that person having to retire.
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No Jared Leto? I registered for this forum just to vote for that guy but he wasn't on the list.
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No Jared Leto? I registered for this forum just to vote for that guy but he wasn't on the list.
Man. So obvious I totally forgot about him.
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Michael Moore is also a supreme jerk. He's on my fab five of jerks list.
That's right, son ... he's a supreme jerk for the TRUTH!
(And a jerk shall lead them all ... )
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Penn Jillette is a total blowhard, and I think he plays it up, but I like it when he goes after pseudoscience and quacks and feng shui and whatnot. It'll take a lot of jerkiness to overcome the bottled water episode of Bullshit, and however flawed that show has been (particularly when they delve into political or value-based judgements instead of unmasking fraud), they plan to devote an entire episode to errors they have made in the course of the series-- admirable intellectual honesty.
But, I prefer my magicians more arcane and scholarly like Ricky Jay, and not all in your face. Never trust a man whose favorite band is the Residents.
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Penn Jillette is a total blowhard, and I think he plays it up, but I like it when he goes after pseudoscience and quacks and feng shui and whatnot. It'll take a lot of jerkiness to overcome the bottled water episode of Bullshit, and however flawed that show has been (particularly when they delve into political or value-based judgements instead of unmasking fraud), they plan to devote an entire episode to errors they have made in the course of the series-- admirable intellectual honesty.
But, I prefer my magicians more arcane and scholarly like Ricky Jay, and not all in your face. Never trust a man whose favorite band is the Residents.
ugh shit show makes me so angry. it's just so crass and condescending and annoying.
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Tom Brevoort? Really? Was he a dick to you at a convention or something?
haha no, sadly nothing that fun.
He just does his job poorly, mishandles projects, which results in him having to do a lot of spin - where he comes off as a jerk most of the time. He's become the Puff Daddy of comic book editors too, I hear his name and see him giving more interviews about books than the talent who made them. Plus he's just a little too smug in the grand scheme of things I think.
/nerd rant.
Yeah, wow, I mean, I'm a pretty serious geek and I'm surprised that anyone feels that strongly about him. Who's next, David Scroggy, VP of Product Development for Dark Horse comics?
I'll always have a special place in my heart for Jello, though.
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Since when is there an intelligence requirement for jerkdom?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul9YGlapNiA
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Look at this JERK! Even more of a reason to replace the GOMP with the old "heave-ho"
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Yeah, wow, I mean, I'm a pretty serious geek and I'm surprised that anyone feels that strongly about him. Who's next, David Scroggy, VP of Product Development for Dark Horse comics?
Fair enough. He's probably more obscure than he should be for this list, but he's not thaaat obscure - c'mon. He's an especially active and vocal part of Marvel pr, he's been a top editor at Marvel for some time now, and he can headline a discussion panel at a convention by himself. Can your David Scroggy say that??
Also, if you happen to be of the opinion that mainstream comics aren't so good anymore, he's one of the chief architects behind that.
Now if you'll excuse me, you've gotten me all flustered and I have to go refill my inhaler.
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Haha. I am actually liking a lot of mainstream comics at the moment, more so than at any time since the 80s, but that probably has more to do with the fact that everyone seems to be moving beyond bad Image/Watchmen ripoffs than anything else.
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what about kids who are jerks...Miley Cyrus?
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what about kids who are jerks...Miley Cyrus?
The real jerks are their parents. Billy Ray, Joe Simpson, the Lohan dad, they're all first class jerks.
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Jeremy Piven. None jerkier.
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I don't think she's dumb, she's just shallow.
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I don't think she's dumb, she's just shallow.
exactly
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what about kids who are jerks...Miley Cyrus?
The real jerks are their parents. Billy Ray, Joe Simpson, the Lohan dad, they're all first class jerks.
true, jbissell. but she's still old enough to know when to stop being a jerk. i still vote for a kid jerk!
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what about kids who are jerks...Miley Cyrus?
The real jerks are their parents. Billy Ray, Joe Simpson, the Lohan dad, they're all first class jerks.
true, jbissell. but she's still old enough to know when to stop being a jerk. i still vote for a kid jerk!
What does she do that makes her a jerk? I'm not really familiar with her, aside from her boring music and TV show.
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Jeremy Piven. None jerkier.
I second this one. My friend took an improv class with his parents and he visited one day and was a huge jerk. And this was before he was on Entourage so I'm sure he's 100x worse now.
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I was going to call in and suggest Ty Cobb. He would be the Black Lion in the Jerk Voltron. Also I'd be really interested to see how he would interact with the other jerks. Would him and Philip DeFranco find some common ground to bond over, or would he slide tackle him with his cletes? Would he appreciate Mike Francesa's knowledge of sports, or would he savagely beat him within an inch of his life?
Maybe I'll write some fan fiction about it.
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Penn Jillette is a total blowhard, and I think he plays it up, but I like it when he goes after pseudoscience and quacks and feng shui and whatnot. It'll take a lot of jerkiness to overcome the bottled water episode of Bullshit, and however flawed that show has been (particularly when they delve into political or value-based judgements instead of unmasking fraud), they plan to devote an entire episode to errors they have made in the course of the series-- admirable intellectual honesty.
But, I prefer my magicians more arcane and scholarly like Ricky Jay, and not all in your face. Never trust a man whose favorite band is the Residents.
ugh shit show makes me so angry. it's just so crass and condescending and annoying.
Yeah, it's totally annoying, when they get into politics especially. But I tend to like it when things like creationism and ouiji boards and new age medicine aren't just disproved, but made fun of. For what it's worth, Teller might not be a jerk be he's onboard with everything that show does.
I also like how P&T and the Amazing Randi go after magicians that claim to have actual magic or psychic powers, by duplicating their tricks and calling them frauds.
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I forgot. Dave Barry. Or is he just a decent guy who is unfunny?
He buddies around with Stephen King...a jerk nominee. Does that help?
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Oh my God.
I can't believe I missed it...
John Lydon.
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I would say Dave Berry is a nice guy who is unfunny, except he's been married maybe eight times now.
In Jeremy Piven's defense, I met him once, and he was a real sweetheart. I was the goon in that interaction, but he rose above it and came out the better man.
Let's put me on the list. Spoony is a jerk.
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Michael Moore is also a supreme jerk. He's on my fab five of jerks list.
False.
Dittos, Omar-bo!
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Matt Taibbi is a jerk on the Bill Maher show. He obviously got all A's in Harvard or wherever, but he insists on writing and speaking like a commoner--lots of awkward cursing.
I also think that Jack Cafferty is a jerk on CNN, not because he's mean or stupid, but because he's been reduced to reciting emails for a living and because he gives off such a defeated vibe.
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Philip DeFranco has changed my life for the better/worse. He's Dane cook jr.
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Tyra Banks is pretty much the height of the self-important, blowhard jerk these days.
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Matt Taibbi is a jerk on the Bill Maher show. He obviously got all A's in Harvard or wherever, but he insists on writing and speaking like a commoner--lots of awkward cursing.
What about Mark Ames, that other guy from that Russian newspaper he wrote for? I remember this hamfisted, rage-filled article he wrote for the New York Press, the gist of which was "Chuck Klosterman is an ass-face! He has a face like an ass!" and I actually found myself in the inexplicable position of feeling sorry for Klosterman. Also according to Wikipedia, Ames wrote a book claiming that school shootings are actually acts of political insurgency. I think he's one of those Vincent Gallo-type "edgy" conservatives.
Also, I don't care if King Khan thinks he's cool and he's DJed the WFMU record fair or whatever: Tim Warren and his "everything that is not garage punk should be destroyed" fanaticism is pure 100% jerk caliber.
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I don't know about Mark Ames' defence of school shootings, but I fully suuport his Klosterman character assassination. From Ames' political writing, I've never gotten the sense that he's any kind of conservative. He wrote a lengthy essay in 2004 (I think) on what he called "Spite Politics" which was a nasty critique of contemporary conservative politics in the USA.
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I don't know about Mark Ames' defence of school shootings, but I fully suuport his Klosterman character assassination. From Ames' political writing, I've never gotten the sense that he's any kind of conservative. He wrote a lengthy essay in 2004 (I think) on what he called "Spite Politics" which was a nasty critique of contemporary conservative politics in the USA.
Ah, OK. I just saw a couple of those Wikipedia quotes when I set about trying to remember his name and got the wrong impression about his politics. I'm not a big fan of Klosterman's writing either, mostly because I live in perpetual fear that I will wake up one morning and realize I have somehow, on some Gregor Samsa shit, actually become him, but the "ass-faced child molester" stuff is kinda unnecessary.
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the "ass-faced child molester" stuff is kinda unnecessary.
You're 100% right. He's probably just trying to be "gonzo" or something.
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I'd like to write in Anton Newcombe if I could. Anytime you go to a BJM concert, you risk getting kicked in the face. What's more jerky than that? And that scene in Dig! where everyone's dicking around on sitars - skin-crawling.
Not to mention his music's terrible.
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So I was listening to Tuesday's show while unpacking my apartment and laughing out loud at the Fab-Five of Jerks (or the Traveling Wilbury's of Jerks) when somebody called in about Philip DeFranco. Based on Tom's reaction I HAD to see a video of this guy.
I watched this one: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8gjTKB_aVg[/youtube]
I was not prepared for it. He's the kind of bad where you don't even know how to explain it. How is he awful? I can't even try to summarize it. There's no way. It's almost like the belief in God. There's no way explaining how you have faith, it's just that you do. Accordingly, there's no way to explain how awful he is you just have to watch it. I think Philip DeFranco is the Jesus of jerks.
He even ended it by saying "...and you've just been 'Philled' in." Amazing.
You're a lot braver than I am. I can't get past 40 seconds without pulling out my hair.
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Penn Jillette is a total blowhard, and I think he plays it up, but I like it when he goes after pseudoscience and quacks and feng shui and whatnot. It'll take a lot of jerkiness to overcome the bottled water episode of Bullshit, and however flawed that show has been (particularly when they delve into political or value-based judgements instead of unmasking fraud), they plan to devote an entire episode to errors they have made in the course of the series-- admirable intellectual honesty.
But, I prefer my magicians more arcane and scholarly like Ricky Jay, and not all in your face. Never trust a man whose favorite band is the Residents.
ugh shit show makes me so angry. it's just so crass and condescending and annoying.
I agree. I also feel like they've had some pretty dumb arguments. They didn't believe second hand smoke was harmful. I believe they were global warming skeptics too.
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I'd like to write in Anton Newcombe if I could. Anytime you go to a BJM concert, you risk getting kicked in the face. What's more jerky than that? And that scene in Dig! where everyone's dicking around on sitars - skin-crawling.
Not to mention his music's terrible.
i second this anton nomination, ten fold.
as for klosterman, i cant stand him (he makes me grind my teeth) but i felt sorry as well. i can appreciate his existance if only for the hope of meeting him at a party so i can spend the entire nite arguing.
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Matt Taibbi is a jerk on the Bill Maher show. He obviously got all A's in Harvard or wherever, but he insists on writing and speaking like a commoner--lots of awkward cursing.
I can't even read a sentence of his stuff without becoming infuriated. He just drops fuck into a sentence randomly and it takes away ANY credibility.
I like Klosterman. His voice is annoying (I heard him on a podcast with The Sports Guy - Bill Simmons once) but he's still a fun read.
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I'd like to write in Anton Newcombe if I could. Anytime you go to a BJM concert, you risk getting kicked in the face. What's more jerky than that? And that scene in Dig! where everyone's dicking around on sitars - skin-crawling.
Not to mention his music's terrible.
He's written some really good songs. "When Jokers Attack," "Who?", etc. I don't get the hatred of his music. It can't be the hatred of pastiche or unoriginality what with the crop of bands people do like. It's uneven, but that's true of everyone. I just listen to the good songs.
Also, I saw them live and they were really good.
The new album totally stinks.
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I agree. I also feel like they've had some pretty dumb arguments. They didn't believe second hand smoke was harmful. I believe they were global warming skeptics too.
I haven't seen their global warming show, but they admitted they were wrong about secondhand smoke.
I just have to repeat. It takes a lot of jerkiness to balance out their bottled water episode. They got people to think that different bottles full of the same hose water all had different tastes. They showed that most bottled water has more impurities than most muni water. Etc. I fucking loved that show. Bottled water is my enemy.
They turned for the worse I guess when instead of taking on bigfoot and homeopathic medicine, they went after actual science that they politically disagree with. Oh well. The dumb stuff is only a fraction of the show.
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I think Taibbi is OK, but he seems to be recycling his schtick lately. His dad was an oldskool journalist from back when it was a hardhat profession, so it s not a total pose. And are you guys talking about Jonathan Ames? And what is BJM?
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No Jared Leto? I registered for this forum just to vote for that guy but he wasn't on the list.
Man. So obvious I totally forgot about him.
mokin suggested that i call in with him, but i'm the one who called in with him for the "best to worst" list, and i don't want to be the person who suggests jared leto every time, even though his jerkiness is legendary.
i tried to find the 30 seconds to mars interview on youtube where he showcases what a huge asshat he is, with no self-awareness whatsoever, but some 30 seconds to mars fan has put at least 70 interviews with them on youtube. i'm not digging through that mess! just picture jared leto with lots of eyeliner and his hair plastered to his face with styling goop and sweat, talking about how they're one of the most important bands to date.
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And what is BJM?
Brain Jonestown Massacre. Anton Newcombe really is a jerk.
Peretz Bernstein would be another good nominee for musician jerks. (You probably know him as Perry Farrell.)
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That new Brian Jonestown album is very very terrible, but I don't believe it quite qualifies Anton for the Fab Five of Jerks just yet.
Matt Taibbi, on the other hand - talk about a grade A douche... That guy made a whole lot of enemies in Buffalo before he left, and not the kind you get from "speaking truth to power" or whatever it is he thought he was doing here. Not a nice guy at all.
I am seriously mystefied about the number of votes Penn Jillette is getting. Everybody who voted for him needs to go and listen to Charmed Life again.
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How did Lars miss out on being in this list
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl2qocBpM1U
"Hey, Lars, Metallica"
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I like Bruce Campbell. I don't wanna deify the guy, but do we have evidence he's a jerk?
I have to agree, buffcoat. I'm not a HUGE Campbell fan, but he's always just seemed like a guy having a good time making goofy movies. A friend of mine met him at Comic Con a few years ago and got him to sign a copy of his book. Campbell asked where he was from, he answered "Pennsylvania," and they wound up having a lengthy conversation about Gettysburg and other historic Civil War sites.
Jerk?
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I like Bruce Campbell. I don't wanna deify the guy, but do we have evidence he's a jerk?
I have to agree, buffcoat. I'm not a HUGE Campbell fan, but he's always just seemed like a guy having a good time making goofy movies. A friend of mine met him at Comic Con a few years ago and got him to sign a copy of his book. Campbell asked where he was from, he answered "Pennsylvania," and they wound up having a lengthy conversation about Gettysburg and other historic Civil War sites.
Jerk?
Only if he was upset that the south lost.
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I know this won't make a difference but I'm posting in defense of my pal Adam who called in offering Dave Foley as a jerk and got the "Heave-Ho". His story about Foley being a dick at a local bar is true. I was there. A good friend of mine was bartending and she ended up having to physically push him out of the bar. He threw a stool over the bar and kept grabbing the soda gun and spraying her with Sierra Mist and stuff. (Also, about a week later at a Built To Spill concert I witnessed some more, um, sub-par behavior by him. I won't go into details but I was a tad mortified cuz he's always been my fave Kid.)
BUT BUT BUT I wouldn't offer him up as a total jerk for the list. I'd offer him up as just a "REALLY terrible drunk".
In Dave Foley's defense - I'd be embarassingly drunk if I was filming this movie, too: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0483763/
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we need more frank miller votes in this thread.
and what about chuck palahniuk or whatever that dude's name is?
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Where's Philly D?
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and what about chuck palahniuk or whatever that dude's name is?
Oh, that's a good one. I wish someone would've thought of it during the show. I actually don't know much about the guy so I don't know for sure that he's a jerk, but his literary output would seem to indicate so.
Where's Philly D?
He's on the list, no voting required. So is Mike Francesa. We're voting for the remaining three members.
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In Dave Foley's defense - I'd be embarassingly drunk if I was filming this movie, too: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0483763/
Aww, poor Stu Gainor. :(
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Ah thanks for the explanation. I checked out one of PhillyDee's videos, I couldn't make it to the one minute mark. All the edits were going to give me a seizure.
and what about chuck palahniuk or whatever that dude's name is?
Oh, that's a good one. I wish someone would've thought of it during the show. I actually don't know much about the guy so I don't know for sure that he's a jerk, but his literary output would seem to indicate so.
Where's Philly D?
He's on the list, no voting required. So is Mike Francesa. We're voting for the remaining three members.
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and what about chuck palahniuk or whatever that dude's name is?
Oh, that's a good one. I wish someone would've thought of it during the show. I actually don't know much about the guy so I don't know for sure that he's a jerk, but his literary output would seem to indicate so.
From what I've heard from a friend who went to one of his readings, he's a nice, friendly guy. You're right about his writing making him seem like a jerk though.
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Chuck Pahlanukanukaluau seems like a good guy. He's livin' the dream. There are a lot of tools that worship _Fight Club_, but he's written many a good book. I read _Survivor_ recently, tho' it's decidedly pre-2001, it's good.
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phillyd
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Where's Philly D?
He's on the list, no voting required. So is Mike Francesa. We're voting for the remaining three members.
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I may have missed someone mentioning him, but where is Ryan Adams? Everything I've heard about the guy suggests that he's king of the crybaby jerks. He's a jerk to everybody: critics, his girlfriends, hell, even his fans.
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Is Tom Green too dated for the list at this point? He really should have some kind of "Jerk Emeritus" status in any case.
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Criss Angel gets a jerk vote for having the gall to spell his name "Criss".
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As someone named Chris, I can get behind that. I'm even been distrustful of people named "Kris".
Bill Mahr isn't being voted for half as much as I think he should be. Am I going to have to start campaigning for him the same way I am for Bob? (Vote Bob.)
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Bill Mahr isn't being voted for half as much as I think he should be. Am I going to have to start campaigning for him the same way I am for Bob? (Vote Bob.)
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I bet he'd be doing better if this poll coincided with the release of Religulous.
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Why didn't jerk king Donald Trump make the list? ???
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Michael Moore is also a supreme jerk. He's on my fab five of jerks list.
False.
Dittos, Omar-bo!
"Omar-bo"? What's the meaning of this?
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gotta go with glenn beck. i suggested him, and i stick by that. ugh, what an idiot. i have to say, steven seagal is a great one. i also cannot believe no one said donald trump. maybe people were thinking it was too obvious at the time or something.
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also cannot believe no one said donald trump. maybe people were thinking it was too obvious at the time or something.
Well, they said it, but they were Fudding it.
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http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/09/09/im-the-expletive-deleted-almost-batman/
If that's not a good enough reason to keep voting for Frank... yeesh.
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http://www.mergerecords.com/store/store_detail.php?catalog_id=560&link=sidebarLink-home (http://www.mergerecords.com/store/store_detail.php?catalog_id=560&link=sidebarLink-home)
As previously announced, the 14 curated discs span the Merge Records catalogue, each featuring its curators' handpicked Merge selections as well as exclusively commissioned original artwork. The first two volumes have been compiled by Peter Buck of R.E.M. and Phil Morrison, director of Junebug, The Upright Citizens Brigade and numerous music videos. The full list of curators for the next 12 volumes has been confirmed and is as follows: Amy Poehler, David Byrne, Miranda July, Jonathan Lethem, artist Marcel Dzama, Momofuku chef David Chang, Georgia Hubley of Yo La Tengo, Zach Galifianakis, New Yorker critic/The Rest Is Noise author Alex Ross, Persepolis author Marjane Satrapi, and artists Andrea Zittel and Kara Walker.
:o
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this just smacked me in the face when i logged in to myspace this morning.
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"the most innovative video since the radiohead clip"
isn't all that impressive is it, since the radiohead clip is like two months old or less?
it's like saying
"THE BEST COEN BROTHERS FILM SINCE 'NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN'!"
myspace is a jerk.
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Here's a Jerk Trio for the ages, for Samir:
Dennis Wise - Roy Keane - Marco Materazzi
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that's good, martin.
i'd replace roy keane with robbie savage, though.
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Savage is more of a neanderthal than a jerk. A savage, if you will. Though Keane might be more of a madman.
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Wait, how about Joey Barton! He deserves it more.
I'm glad my namesake Nasri kicked him a couple of weeks ago.
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Yes! Barton gets it.
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(http://www.jdmfilmreviews.com/images/frank-miller1.jpg)
More FMiller campaigning, because that All-Star Batman thing made national news.
Just look at him. Jerk.
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And now Criss Angel is stealing one of Hugh Hefner's ladies.
Oh wait, I don't actually care about that.
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As the listeners were calling in and creating the list I was trying to come up with a female jerk.
Women aren't jerks in general. How about Zza Zza Gabor?
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Looks kind of like Dr. Venture before he shaved his head.
(http://www.jdmfilmreviews.com/images/frank-miller1.jpg)
More FMiller campaigning, because that All-Star Batman thing made national news.
Just look at him. Jerk.
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Looks kind of like Dr. Venture before he shaved his head.
I thought God shaved his head?? :o
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Looks kind of like Dr. Venture before he shaved his head.
I thought God shaved his head?? :o
Yes, but he left the sides.
I really hope I remembered that correctly.
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OMG. I hope when I'm in the final days of my life, nobody takes me to a Danny Aiello show. Or A.C.
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ugh, I saw that the other night. It earned Danny a vote.
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ugh, I saw that the other night. It earned Danny a vote.
Public Television: C'mon, Guys.
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Sylvia Brown -- heartless, cynical scam artist jerk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKyzBe0CA2Q
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EW BUOY.
that is hard to watch. what an idiot. i mean holy shit.
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ugh, I saw that the other night. It earned Danny a vote.
Public Television: C'mon, Guys.
C'MON GUYS INDEEEED. For the past couple of weeks Thirteen seems to be showing nothing but Doo Wop. When did Spike become the target demographic? And when will I get PBS 2, a channel devoted to showing anything of interest to people under 55. Or just run Bill Moyers back to back and I'll be happy.
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ugh, I saw that the other night. It earned Danny a vote.
Public Television: C'mon, Guys.
C'MON GUYS INDEEEED. For the past couple of weeks Thirteen seems to be showing nothing but Doo Wop. When did Spike become the target demographic? And when will I get PBS 2, a channel devoted to showing anything of interest to people under 55. Or just run Bill Moyers back to back and I'll be happy.
PBS 2 will start out that way, then slowly revert back to the PBS format with shows twice as worse.
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This is what "PhillyD" is calling his secret project which is basically just him making his "fans" whore themselves out for him, just horrible and ups his jerk level.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=358143537&blogID=432941637
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This is what "PhillyD" is calling his secret project which is basically just him making his "fans" whore themselves out for him, just horrible and ups his jerk level.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=358143537&blogID=432941637
Wow, PhillyD needs to PhillyDie.
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So, today, I was flipping around the radio and I came across Tom Leykis' show, and who was the guest in studio?
Carlos Mencia! ... A meeting of the miserable.
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This is what "PhillyD" is calling his secret project which is basically just him making his "fans" whore themselves out for him, just horrible and ups his jerk level.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=358143537&blogID=432941637
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Sylvia Brown -- heartless, cynical scam artist jerk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKyzBe0CA2Q
Wow....that was hard to watch.
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David Chang, still a dick. (http://www.esquire.com/features/21st-century-taste-like-1008)
At Momofuku, we've made a name for ourselves selling lots of pig and not accommodating vegetarians. So, yeah, I recognize the hypocrisy of me--Captain Fucking Pork Bun--telling you to eat more veggies and less meat. Guilty as charged. But don't get me wrong: My restaurants still won't kowtow to vegetarians. We will, however, focus more on vegetable and grain dishes in which meat adds flavor, not heft.
So basically: I'll put meat in food just so vegetarians can't eat it.
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I still don't understand what makes David Chang a jerk. He doesn't cook for vegetarians. Thats it? Because a lot of places don't. I guess he's stubborn about it, but reading that article and the profile of him in the New Yorker its apparent that he thinks a lot about food. His approach isn't so different from Fergus Henderson who wrote the The Whole Beast book. However, his approach to meat isn't evil or jerk-ish in the way that factory farms lead to looking at animals.
I agree with Tom about a lot of things, but even in that rant about Chang, he wasn't very convincing.
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Neil Strauss
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i'm still going on about it: guys who smoke at gas pumps
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Wouldn't they be just plain idiots?
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well, it's kind of a jerk move because if they want to be an idiot and smoke at a gas pump, thats fine...make sure you're the only one there.
otherwise, its a real jerk move to smoke at a gas pump and not have any respect for me or further innocent patrons at the station, then put your cigarette out on the ground (where there is oil and gas) like, "oh yeah, i know, but i put it out."
of course you put it out, you were done with it, you jerk!
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When I used to smoke and also get gas, I'd go to the parking lot area of the gas station. But I was never sure if I was out of the danger range.
Has a gas station ever caught on fire or exploded because of a cigarette? Even if it hasn't, its still a jerk move, but just a different class of jerk move. Its the kind of jerk move that people who think that because they have a certain amount of control of a situation that it's okay to obviously and pointlessly put you in danger. For some reason, I saw this a lot in college. Guys who had like a knife or people who juggle dangerous things. I can't stand it when people do that because then after the initial jerk move, they usually imply that you are freaking out for no reason because of their bizarre unsafe behaivor.
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bob saget 1 vote, and bill maher 3? this is totally backwards.