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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: masterofsparks on September 05, 2008, 11:44:38 PM
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From my musical conversations with folks on this board, I've been very impressed with just what a hip bunch of people we are. However, a few of these conversations got me thinking there must be some skeletons in closets. I don't want to call them "guilty pleasures" because I'm not guilty about any of them, but I was wondering about some of the things that are considered bad or uncool that you really love.
I could compile a really long list, but I'll start with Elton John's Madman Across the Water LP. Despite some negative qualities (especially a tendency for excess that would only get worse with escalating fame and drug abuse and Bernie Taupin's awful, purple lyrics), I think the majority of his 70s output is pretty solid, with the best of it reaching the plateau of greatness. Madman Across the Water is my favorite LP by him. In addition to mega-hits Tiny Dancer and Levon and the minor hit title track, there's a trio of just-as-good album cuts to be had: Razor Face, Rotten Peaches, and Holiday Inn (my favorite EJ track). I like his voice and he has an undeniable knack for memorable melodies, and his songwriting chops are at their peak here.
So what's your ugly secret?
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Madman Across the Water is hands down the best Elton John album. I love it.
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Speaking of Heart, I love love love their album "Dreamboat Annie" They're uncool right? See, I never really considered Elton John uncool, so my ideas of what's cool and what's not cool may be twisted.
I have a long list, which I'm sure I can't completely regurgitate here, but it includes:
Cher, no matter what era. Yes, that means I liked "Do You Belieeeeeve in Life After Love (after love after love after love")?
Meatloaf-Bat Out Of Hell
2 Avril Lavigne singles-"Girlfriend" and "I'm With You" (as in, I leave them on the radio when they come on)
Phil Collins, the singles.
Some Kelly Clarkson
Beyonce (is she uncool? Again, not sure)
Nine Inch Nails-Pretty Hate Machine. Plenty of cool people love this record but plenty don't, so I'm sticking it in here.
Tina Turner-Private Dancer
Christina Aguilera. I'm still not quite sure whether I like her music, or just her. Or neither. In any case, I'm intrigued.
Night Ranger
Some Rick Springfield
John "Couger" Mellancamp-the older singles.
Hmmm... After reading this list, I appear to have the musical taste of a time-travelling goth/gay biker who lives in Miami in the 1980's.
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I'll start with Elton John's Madman Across the Water LP. Despite some negative qualities (especially a tendency for excess that would only get worse with escalating fame and drug abuse and Bernie Taupin's awful, purple lyrics), I think the majority of his 70s output is pretty solid, with the best of it reaching the plateau of greatness. Madman Across the Water is my favorite LP by him.
Dude - no shame. That's a great album.
Not nearly as bad as me still liking to give an occasional spin to Jackson Browne's Late For The Sky, in my opinion.
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Without this turning into a 70's Elton John thread my favorite has always been Tumbleweed Connection, maybe just because of Come Down In Time. Honestly everything on my iPod would be considered embarrassing.
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I like me some Alan Parsons Project. Not all of it (that Edgar Allan Poe concept record is just blecch), but I enjoy a lot of I, Robot and a few of the singles ("Games People Play", "Eye in the Sky"... and, yeah, "Don't Answer Me"). And damned if "Mammagamma" isn't the blueprint for all the cool downtempo/balearic house stuff Lindstrom's been doing over the last three years.
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Sludge and doom metal. What can I say? Its relationship with experimental and noise music goes back a decade at least now, if not as far back as no wave.
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The Counting Crows.
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Oh, I like Tatu as well, in a somewhat non-ironic way ~ but Ken Freedman is directly to blame for that. ;D
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I'll start with Elton John's Madman Across the Water LP. Despite some negative qualities (especially a tendency for excess that would only get worse with escalating fame and drug abuse and Bernie Taupin's awful, purple lyrics), I think the majority of his 70s output is pretty solid, with the best of it reaching the plateau of greatness. Madman Across the Water is my favorite LP by him.
Dude - no shame. That's a great album.
Not nearly as bad as me still liking to give an occasional spin to Jackson Browne's Late For The Sky, in my opinion.
I'm pretty much with Tom on Jackson Browne's awfulness, but I have a soft spot for the song Late for the Sky. I think it's because of its use in Taxi Driver - that scene really sticks with me.
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I really like 'Looking For Clues' by Robert Palmer and 'Kiss Me' by Sixpence None The Richer. Early Elton John is far from uncool; it's liking his Lion King jams that are truly the sign of a madman.
I also like Meatloaf, my mum is a huge fan so it got played in the car. Including Something Something The Road Something.
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I really like 'Looking For Clues' by Robert Palmer
That's the only Robert Palmer album I own. I only bought it for "Johnny and Mary," which I still love despite its excessive popularity in the eighties.
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I really like 'Looking For Clues' by Robert Palmer and 'Kiss Me' by Sixpence None The Richer. Early Elton John is far from uncool; it's liking his Lion King jams that are truly the sign of a madman.
I also like Meatloaf, my mum is a huge fan so it got played in the car. Including Something Something The Road Something.
I really like Meatloaf....and I actually own a Jim Steinman album: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:fcfuxq95ldhe
I pretend to own it for irony, but I secretly really enjoy it.
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Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin' , by Journey , is an awesome song.
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Steely Dan
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Also Steely Dan. U2. The Grateful Dead and Phish. Post-Syd Pink Floyd. Red Hot Chili Peppers. Jane's Addiction. Some NIN. White Zombie. David Lee Roth. Steve Miller. Older Metallica. Destiny's Child. A handful of musicals.
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"What it Takes" by Aerosmith
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Phish's poppier songs. Bronski Beat. Erasure. Marc Almond.
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Phish's poppier songs.
Seconded. Also second Tatu.
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Bronski Beat. Erasure.
Seconded for both. I even like the record Bronski Beat did after Jimmy Somerville left. Erasure were pretty much the first group I ever liked when I was 8. I'm 25 now and I still have a lot of time for them.
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Boston by Boston
Apollo 13 by They Might Be Giants
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Apollo 13 by They Might Be Giants
TMBG is one of my favorite bands. Ever.
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Boston by Boston
Love it.
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Also, this is only potentially embarrassing to an FOT, but Tom Waits' "Step Right Up" has been one of my favorite songs for years.
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That Boston album is awesome. Thirded.
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Billy Joel.
Yup.
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Billy Joel.
Yup.
I've always thought he was cool. My hip-o-meter is way off.
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Ween.
I could do without the juvenalia and misogyny, but their adeptness with different genres makes for a fun mix-tape of a career.
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Also, this is only potentially embarrassing to an FOT, but Tom Waits' "Step Right Up" has been one of my favorite songs for years.
I love that song too--a creative writing teacher played that for our class in 11th grade, and I've been a Tom Waits fan ever since.
Oasis, for sure, and all of that mid-90's Britpop stuff that everyone else has been finished with for ten years. The Spice Girls. Is it cool or uncool to like Amy Winehouse? I don't know, but I do. I also think that Paris Hilton single "Stars are Blind" is really catchy. I kind of like some No Doubt/Gwen Stefani stuff, too, but what girl didn't own a copy of "Tragic Kingdom" in 1996? Beth knows what I'm talking about, I bet.
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Dan Deacon
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Destiny's Child.
YES
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Queen's "The Miracle", no matter how extensively I cull my collection, has always made the final cut. I don't know why either as it's not that good and I never listen to it. I also have all the Dread Zeppelin albums which I still enjoy.
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Also, this is only potentially embarrassing to an FOT, but Tom Waits' "Step Right Up" has been one of my favorite songs for years.
I love that song too--a creative writing teacher played that for our class in 11th grade, and I've been a Tom Waits fan ever since.
Oasis, for sure, and all of that mid-90's Britpop stuff that everyone else has been finished with for ten years. The Spice Girls. Is it cool or uncool to like Amy Winehouse? I don't know, but I do. I also think that Paris Hilton single "Stars are Blind" is really catchy. I kind of like some No Doubt/Gwen Stefani stuff, too, but what girl didn't own a copy of "Tragic Kingdom" in 1996? Beth knows what I'm talking about, I bet.
For sure! I had a No Doubt poster on my bedroom wall.
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Also:
Sublime
Peter Gabriel
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Also:
Peter Gabriel
I really haven't heard too much of his stuff but I enjoy his voice.
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Peter Gabriel is uncool? Who knew?
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Ween.
I could do without the juvenalia and misogyny, but their adeptness with different genres makes for a fun mix-tape of a career.
Wait, Ween is uncool? I'm learning so much. Another one of my favorite bands.
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"Sledgehammer" came on my HutTunes, and I just assumed it was a song I loved but that everyone hated. It could also be that I'm associating him with an old roommate who liked to make love [sic] to "Passion," PG's Last Temptation of Christ soundtrack.
Also, I kinda love Tool. And Tori Amos.
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"Sledgehammer" came on my HutTunes, and I just assumed it was a song I loved but that everyone hated. It could also be that I'm associating him with an old roommate who liked to make love [sic] to "Passion," PG's Last Temptation of Christ soundtrack.
Also, I kinda love Tool. And Tori Amos.
OK, yes, So-era Peter Gabriel might be considered uncool. I was thinking of the self-titled solo albums, which are very cool.
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'Sledgehammer' is what got me into African music. Now I know you're thinking it sounds nothing like it, but back when I used to read guitar magazines they tabbed the song and I liked the simplicity of playing lots of quick staccato notes rather than running up and down the board like Zakk Wylde. I asked people who knew these kinds of things and they pointed me to Fela and Thomas Mapfumo and life is better for it.
I also quite like a couple of Gabriel-era Genesis records.
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"Sledgehammer" came on my HutTunes, and I just assumed it was a song I loved but that everyone hated. It could also be that I'm associating him with an old roommate who liked to make love [sic] to "Passion," PG's Last Temptation of Christ soundtrack.
Also, I kinda love Tool. And Tori Amos.
I looooove Tori Amos. Except for that piece of shit album she put out last year. Ugh.
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Oh, a few more:
The Allman Brothers (Duane era only)
Foghat
Mountain
Bloodrock
Blackfoot
Black Oak Arkansas
(OK, I probably don't "love" those last five, but I really like their stuff and own more than one album by each. The Allmans I unabashedly love).
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Abba!
Bela Fleck!
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Bloodrock's 'DOA' is way cool.
I like Don MacLean.
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"Sledgehammer" came on my HutTunes, and I just assumed it was a song I loved but that everyone hated. It could also be that I'm associating him with an old roommate who liked to make love [sic] to "Passion," PG's Last Temptation of Christ soundtrack.
Also, I kinda love Tool. And Tori Amos.
I looooove Tori Amos. Except for that piece of shit album she put out last year. Ugh.
I do too, and everyone else I know hates her. And I agree about her last album (or last couple albums). I think the last thing I liked was Boys for Pele.
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Tori Amos is great. 'Little Earthquakes' is time-capsule worthy.
On that note, Kate Bush.
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It could also be that I'm associating him with an old roommate who liked to make love [sic] to "Passion," PG's Last Temptation of Christ soundtrack.
This is both horrifying and hilarious.
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On that note, Kate Bush.
Kate Bush is NEVER uncool. How much do I love torturing my 9th graders with the song "Wuthering Heights?" Almost as much as I enjoy making them read "Wuthering Heights," which is equally awesome for me and awful for them.
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I actually had a period in the mid-to-late 90s where, if someone was to look at my music purchases and my haircut, they would assume I was a lesbian: Tori, Ani DiFranco, Tracy Chapman, Suzanne Vega, Luscious Jackson. I think this culminated in Le Tigre, whom I still love.
I also have a soft spot for those now-dated eclectic post-Beck bands like Bran Van 3000 and Ozomatli.
I was never a huge Pearl Jam fan, but I did like those first two albums just fine. And I still listen to the Singles soundtrack every so often. I know I already mentioned U2, but the Singles soundtrack, Achtung Baby, and the self-titled Blues Traveler album will always remind me of this idyllic moment in undergrad when these 3 roommates living in Bloomfield (TL's home town!) sort of adopted me. I had crushes on all of them and we were always high. Eventually everything went south, but damn if those weren't some great times.
It could also be that I'm associating him with an old roommate who liked to make love [sic] to "Passion," PG's Last Temptation of Christ soundtrack.
This is both horrifying and hilarious.
That about describes this guy. I actually told another story about the same guy on another forum today - once he had a bad trip and decided he was the Messiah, and I had to both protect him in pre-Guiliani NYC and decide whether or not to have him committed. He got over it, sort of. The last time I heard from him he called to try and get me to support Ron Paul. I think he's currently running for mayor of some town in the Florida panhandle (maybe Pensacola), a circumstance that I can only describe as Newbridgian.
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On that note, Kate Bush.
Kate Bush is NEVER uncool. How much do I love torturing my 9th graders with the song "Wuthering Heights?" Almost as much as I enjoy making them read "Wuthering Heights," which is equally awesome for me and awful for them.
I love Kate Bush, but listening to 'The Dreaming' is kind of a solitary, hide it from the world sort of thing to do.
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Is Tom Petty uncool?
Don't Come Around Here No More is a great song and video.
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Tom Petty is uncool, but anyone who doesn't at least kind of enjoy him probably needs to loosen up a little. The man writes some great songs.
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Coldplay - I'm not sure if they are uncool, but Tom bashed them pretty bad.
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Third vote for Tom Petty. Critics call him a Dylan/McGuinn clone, but he's written plenty of good unpretentious memorable songs.
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Tom Petty rules.
I was not aware that Dan Deacon was uncool. I don't love him but I like some stuff.
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On that note, Kate Bush.
Kate Bush is NEVER uncool. How much do I love torturing my 9th graders with the song "Wuthering Heights?" Almost as much as I enjoy making them read "Wuthering Heights," which is equally awesome for me and awful for them.
If you taught math, you could play her song "PI", in which she sings a whole bunch of the decimal places beyond 3.14 ...
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umm.. my very guilty pleasure.. uh,
I like Tori Amos.
I'm a 30 yr old man.
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who's definition of cool are we using here?
there's a bunch of bands here that I had no idea were uncool.
am I uncool?
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Probably.
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The first four Tori Amos albums are terrific.
The rest of their stuff seemed bland, but Aly & AJ's "Potential Breakup Song" got lodged in my head for about a month when it came out.
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Another vote for Tom Petty.
Is Queen uncool? If so, add them to my list. I own and love everything through Jazz.
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On that note, Kate Bush.
Kate Bush is NEVER uncool. How much do I love torturing my 9th graders with the song "Wuthering Heights?" Almost as much as I enjoy making them read "Wuthering Heights," which is equally awesome for me and awful for them.
If you taught math, you could play her song "PI", in which she sings a whole bunch of the decimal places beyond 3.14 ...
But as a math teacher who has LOVED Kate Bush since around 1983, it pains me to report that about 80-100 digits in, she loses track. I assume it was part of an edit that didn't get fixed, and she said "Who would ever know?"
I could play this particular game endlessly, as anyone looking at my last.fm page could affirm, but how about (just scanning my music collection list) Ryan Adams, Adrian Belew, Kate Campbell, Bruce Cockburn, Al Dimeola, Dream Theater, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Genesis, John Hiatt, Jethro Tull, Jellyfish, King Crimson, King's X, John McLaughlin, Pat Metheny, Scott Miller, Randy Newman, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Prince, REM, Todd Rundgren, Paul Simon, Spock's Beard, Matthew Sweet, Weather Report, World Party, Yes, and even Frank Zappa.
Nobody's going to be asking me to program a show anytime soon (although I think I could do a pretty good job, dammit.)
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Tom Petty rules.
I was not aware that Dan Deacon was uncool. I don't love him but I like some stuff.
A lot of people hate on the Dan Deacon. I like his stuff tho.
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Adrian Belew
This dude is cool.
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DFK, I got your back on R.E.M., Yes, and Zappa; at least for the "good" stuff by these people.
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Tom sold me on ABBA.
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Ryan Adams, Adrian Belew, Kate Campbell, Bruce Cockburn, Al Dimeola, Dream Theater, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Genesis, John Hiatt, Jethro Tull, Jellyfish, King Crimson, King's X, John McLaughlin, Pat Metheny, Scott Miller, Randy Newman, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Prince, REM, Todd Rundgren, Paul Simon, Spock's Beard, Matthew Sweet, Weather Report, World Party, Yes, and even Frank Zappa.
Nobody's going to be asking me to program a show anytime soon (although I think I could do a pretty good job, dammit.)
I like almost all of these artists, including Zappa.
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Tom sold me on ABBA.
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Tom sold me on ABBA and Creedence.
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Ryan Adams, Adrian Belew, Kate Campbell, Bruce Cockburn, Al Dimeola, Dream Theater, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Genesis, John Hiatt, Jethro Tull, Jellyfish, King Crimson, King's X, John McLaughlin, Pat Metheny, Scott Miller, Randy Newman, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Prince, REM, Todd Rundgren, Paul Simon, Spock's Beard, Matthew Sweet, Weather Report, World Party, Yes, and even Frank Zappa.
Nobody's going to be asking me to program a show anytime soon (although I think I could do a pretty good job, dammit.)
I like almost all of these artists, including Zappa.
i don't think zappa has ever been considered "uncool"
but I also agree with alot of these bands. especially Rundgren! he gets so much shit on the best show because Philly Boy Roy like's him but I'll defend alot of his stuff. A Wizard, A True Star is one of my favorite albums.
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Ryan Adams, Adrian Belew, Kate Campbell, Bruce Cockburn, Al Dimeola, Dream Theater, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Genesis, John Hiatt, Jethro Tull, Jellyfish, King Crimson, King's X, John McLaughlin, Pat Metheny, Scott Miller, Randy Newman, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Prince, REM, Todd Rundgren, Paul Simon, Spock's Beard, Matthew Sweet, Weather Report, World Party, Yes, and even Frank Zappa.
Nobody's going to be asking me to program a show anytime soon (although I think I could do a pretty good job, dammit.)
I like almost all of these artists, including Zappa.
i don't think zappa has ever been considered "uncool"
but I also agree with alot of these bands. especially Rundgren! he gets so much shit on the best show because Philly Boy Roy like's him but I'll defend alot of his stuff. A Wizard, A True Star is one of my favorite albums.
I also love King Crimson, Genesis, Adrian Belew, and Pink Floyd. While we're in the classic rock realm...
...when Bob Seger's "Hollywood Nights" and "Night Moves" come on the radio, I don't turn them off.
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ooooh! "night moves" gets me every time. also, "against the wind"
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Oh, this one should get me excommunicated from the FOT board.
TOOL.
I think their albums are seriously bloated. They need editing, but some songs are just incredible to me. These include...
Opiate
Prison Sex
Aenema
Hooker with a Penis
The Grudge
Ticks and Leeches
Lateralus
The Pot
I swear, I am not a frat boy.
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ooooh! "night moves" gets me every time. also, "against the wind"
Yeah, I like Night Moves a whole lot. Anyone who considers Seger uncool has never heard his early singles and LPs, though. There's some hot stuff in there. I think I've heard Tom play the Bob Seger System track Lucifer on the show before.
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ooooh! "night moves" gets me every time. also, "against the wind"
Yeah, I like Night Moves a whole lot. Anyone who considers Seger uncool has never heard his early singles and LPs, though. There's some hot stuff in there. I think I've heard Tom play the Bob Seger System track Lucifer on the show before.
I never gave his early stuff a chance because, years ago, I heard him sing on a track called "Ballad of the Yellow Beret" which disgusted me. Here it is:
http://cockeyedabsurdist.vox.com/library/audio/6a00cd970622754cd500d41425a718685e.html (http://cockeyedabsurdist.vox.com/library/audio/6a00cd970622754cd500d41425a718685e.html)
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Madness. Madness are great, though they spawned badness.
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I still like that first Porno For Pyros album, and I can still enjoy something like "Ocean Size" by Jane's Addiction without irony or embarrassment.
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I always hated Something/Anything but it's grown on me over the past few months. I like a fair amount of Christian Alt-Rock which is probably seen as the most uncool in some circles. But, I'll stand behind Starflyer 59, Johnny Q. Public, PFR and Morella's Forest. Those four bands really shaped my music tastes in middle school and early high school. I also love the Herman's Hermits.
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this shit is retarded. why would anyone like music that's uncool? it doesnt' make any sense. if you like something then that makes it cool.
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this shit is retarded. why would anyone like music that's uncool? it doesnt' make any sense. if you like something then that makes it cool.
Some of us are through being cool, though.
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i don't think zappa has ever been considered "uncool"
SRSLY? Maybe I spent too many of my formative years reading The New York Press and listening to WFMU, but I've always taken it as a given that every single ex-punk, mixtape-loving, lo-fi, anti-snob-snob hates Zappa. I would probably put myself slightly on the garage-rock side of the garage/prog debate, but I like a little Zappa every now and then.
Oh, this one should get me excommunicated from the FOT board.
TOOL.
I think their albums are seriously bloated. They need editing, but some songs are just incredible to me. These include...
Opiate
Prison Sex
Aenema
Hooker with a Penis
The Grudge
Ticks and Leeches
Lateralus
The Pot
I swear, I am not a frat boy.
I love Tool, and that's roughly my favorite-song list too. Queens of the Stone Age, too, though I never got on the Kyuss bus.
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I've never been able to pin where Zappa fans fall in the grand scheme of things because I've never known any.
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Oh, this one should get me excommunicated from the FOT board.
TOOL.
Aenima and Lateralus are masterofworks. 10,000 Days was mostly a disappointment.
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I've never been able to pin where Zappa fans fall in the grand scheme of things because I've never known any.
I'm one. What you want to know?
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Aja, Late for the Sky, and Blue Days Black Nights by Freedy Johnston. I get a lot of crap for that last one but I find strange comfort in it.
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So it's a prog thing? Ewwww. Prog is like hippy jam music for rock dudes.
Trying to think if I like any prog (I'm sure there's at least one band...). Might have to think about it for a bit.
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So it's a prog thing? Ewwww. Prog is like hippy jam music for rock dudes.
Trying to think if I like any prog (I'm sure there's at least one band...). Might have to think about it for a bit.
Sorry holding your nose is an essential. I will try not to hum in your general direction.
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So it's a prog thing? Ewwww. Prog is like hippy jam music for rock dudes.
Trying to think if I like any prog (I'm sure there's at least one band...). Might have to think about it for a bit.
I thought hippy jam music was hippy jam music for rock dudes.
I like Zappa, but I don't like Steely Dan or King Crimson, though I like some Yes. Early Frank Zappa isn't really prog. The earliest stuff is like doo-wop, classical, jazz, and acid rock mixed together. Then it gets into jazz/rock "fusion" which makes it proggy, but I will stand by Hot Rats 'til the bitter fucking end. "Willie The Pimp" featuring Captain Beefheart is an awesome song. The early Zappa stuff like We're Only In It For The Money and Absolutely Free are like proto-prog meets Ween I guess. Something like that.
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Sorry holding your nose is an essential. I will try not to hum in your general direction.
Aww, c'mon Dave, prog deserves at least a little teasing. People tease stuff I like all the time. ;)
I like the idea of prog rock, in theory. Something just invariably goes awry somewhere along the way.
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Sorry holding your nose is an essential. I will try not to hum in your general direction.
Aww, c'mon Dave, prog deserves at least a little teasing. People tease stuff I like all the time. ;)
I like the idea of prog rock, in theory. Something just invariably goes awry somewhere along the way.
Nothing went wrong with Rush. Unless you could their Ayn Rand dalliances, but I can forgive a good band some philosophical foibles as long as they're not, like, Skrewdriver.
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rush is cool as shit. i have two rush shirts. when i met sebastian bach, he got all excited when he noticed i was wearing a fly by night shirt. he thumped me in the chest and told me i was a sweet dude.
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Sorry holding your nose is an essential. I will try not to hum in your general direction.
Aww, c'mon Dave, prog deserves at least a little teasing. People tease stuff I like all the time. ;)
I like the idea of prog rock, in theory. Something just invariably goes awry somewhere along the way.
You're dead to me, you damn sandwich lover. Probably like cake too.
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Nothing went wrong with Rush. Unless you could their Ayn Rand dalliances, but I can forgive a good band some philosophical foibles as long as they're not, like, Skrewdriver.
Yeah, I read that the Monkees were unable to see the flaws in Searle's Chinese Room argument, but I listen to them anyway.
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ooooh! "night moves" gets me every time. also, "against the wind"
Yeah, I like Night Moves a whole lot. Anyone who considers Seger uncool has never heard his early singles and LPs, though. There's some hot stuff in there. I think I've heard Tom play the Bob Seger System track Lucifer on the show before.
I never gave his early stuff a chance because, years ago, I heard him sing on a track called "Ballad of the Yellow Beret" which disgusted me. Here it is:
http://cockeyedabsurdist.vox.com/library/audio/6a00cd970622754cd500d41425a718685e.html (http://cockeyedabsurdist.vox.com/library/audio/6a00cd970622754cd500d41425a718685e.html)
Yeah, I'm familiar with that song and it was definitely a jerk move. He obviously turned around because his first album (which came several years after Ballad of the Yellow Beret) has one of the most powerful anti-war songs ever, 2 + 2 = ?
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Rush has always been too divisive to every comfortably call "cool" though. In any room of people you can probably find three people who absolutely love Rush and three more who are sent into convulsive fits from them. :D
Heck, that divide even exists in some bands.
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I will stand by Hot Rats 'til the bitter fucking end. "Willie The Pimp" featuring Captain Beefheart is an awesome song.
It is a good song, but I have to give most of the credit to Beefheart for the awesome vocal - that's what really sells the song for me, especially since Zappa has a long history of either choosing horrible vocalists or, even worse, performing the vocals poorly himself. Jim DeRogatis played "Catholic Girls" on this week's Sound Opinions podcast and hooo-boy it brought back into focus just how God-awful the majority of Zappa's output is (for me, anyway - I'm not trying to run down yours or anyone else's tastes, JJ).
Having said that, I really do need to hear those early Mothers albums again.
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Nothing went wrong with Rush. Unless you could their Ayn Rand dalliances, but I can forgive a good band some philosophical foibles as long as they're not, like, Skrewdriver.
Yeah, I read that the Monkees were unable to see the flaws in Searle's Chinese Room argument, but I listen to them anyway.
Actually, Michael Nesmith has been fairly critical of Searle. I believed his work in this area was his reason for not joining the 1980s reunion.
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Van Halen (DLR-era only)
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Michael McDonald.
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Skid Row - Slave to the Grind
Wham - Make it Big
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Stadium Arcadium, Blood Sugar Sex Magik
Oh, and I really love the song Abacab.
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Skid Row - Slave to the Grind
This album is very cool.
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Lots and lots of cheesy 80s groove. It's turning around though - soon it's cool again.
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Tie my bonnet and call me junior, I like metal.
It's the genre fiction of music.
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Tie my bonnet and call me junior, I like metal.
It's the genre fiction of music.
Me too. It's not my favorite kind of music, but it has great moments. And I wouldn't call a band like Jesu childish. There's a lot of different kinds of metal bands.
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Skid Row - Slave to the Grind
This album is very cool.
Agreed. In a similar area, I like the first 2 LPs by both Def Leppard and Motley Crue.
And ZZ Top is my favorite rock band ever.
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I caught that your name comes from a ZZ Top song.
You have to love a song about rednecks doing crazy stuff on the highway with a metal globe welded out of sucker gauge.
Skid Row - Slave to the Grind
This album is very cool.
Agreed. In a similar area, I like the first 2 LPs by both Def Leppard and Motley Crue.
And ZZ Top is my favorite rock band ever.
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And ZZ Top is my favorite rock band ever.
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Whiskey n' Mamma might be one of the best rock songs ever....(anyone?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8EX8lBM1Pc
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Whiskey n' Mamma might be one of the best rock songs ever....(anyone?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8EX8lBM1Pc
*raises hand*