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Title: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: wwwes on October 10, 2008, 01:42:36 PM
When it was first announced, I thought it sounded like it would be awful. Certainly Oliver Stone's other film about contemporary issues was pretty terrible. And I'm not a fan of political films in general. But the more I see clips, the more I think this could be one of the most surreal movie experiences ever. Like Dr. Strangelove in the way that farce and drama become pretty much indistinguishable from one another. Except that the real people involved make it like Saturday Night Live parody characters taking part in the real world.

In other words, it should be a spectacular flameout or a stunning success. It'd be hard to hit mediocre.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: Chris L on October 10, 2008, 01:56:06 PM
Rob Corrdry as Ari Fleischer will merit a Netflixing, I guess. 
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: njkaters on October 10, 2008, 01:56:53 PM
Yes! Wow, this is a great post because I just came to the realization that I want to see W after talking badly about the very idea of this movie for awhile. Mostly, I want to see how Oliver Stone makes George W. Bush "weird" in some way. Bush is weird enough so I am not sure what he will do but I look forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: theyellowchair on October 10, 2008, 03:07:21 PM
my thoughts precisely. i'm hoping it plays like the cinematic equivalent of zinn's a people's history of the united states while on ecstacy while listening to loveless.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: Gilly on October 10, 2008, 03:10:34 PM
Reviews are saying it's a comedy. If that's true I'll probably wait until DVD if it's just going to be a mockumentary.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: wwwes on October 10, 2008, 03:23:01 PM
That's the unique part, though! Mockumentary implies false events. This is almost entirely based on reality, it's just done in such a way that it brings out the absurdity and insanity of it all.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: todd on October 10, 2008, 03:34:18 PM
my thoughts precisely. i'm hoping it plays like the cinematic equivalent of zinn's a people's history of the united states while on ecstacy while listening to loveless.

are you jenny from AST
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: erika on October 10, 2008, 04:27:49 PM
Todd's on AST?
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: Regular Joe on October 10, 2008, 05:05:32 PM
my thoughts precisely. i'm hoping it plays like the cinematic equivalent of zinn's a people's history of the united states while on ecstacy while listening to loveless.

are you jenny from AST

It's all coming together now... Are you the Todd who runs the Dead Frog blog? If so, I like it a lot.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on October 10, 2008, 05:40:04 PM
That's the unique part, though! Mockumentary implies false events. This is almost entirely based on reality, it's just done in such a way that it brings out the absurdity and insanity of it all.

that's the beauty of the phrase, "based on a true story"- all it needs is a nanoshred of truth and you've based it on reality. 


N-E-T-F-L-I-X
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: todd on October 10, 2008, 05:54:46 PM
Todd's on AST?

this rabbit hole goes deeper than you could possibly imagine
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on October 10, 2008, 05:58:40 PM
speaking of comedy communities, i havent been on blow up the moon in forever- what happened?!  once thriving, it's now a ghost town of spam.  

meanwhile, im considering getting back on the AST horse.  wish me luck...im not very funny.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: daveB from Oakland on October 10, 2008, 09:20:49 PM
"Oliver Stone" & "Comedy" = ???????

I might have to check it out.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: theyellowchair on October 10, 2008, 09:44:20 PM
my thoughts precisely. i'm hoping it plays like the cinematic equivalent of zinn's a people's history of the united states while on ecstacy while listening to loveless.

are you jenny from AST

unfortunately i am not.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: ericluxury on October 19, 2008, 07:45:21 PM
I saw it.
My thoughts:
I thought Josh Brolin was great and most of the pleasures of the film is that of watching how the impressions played out. Some were good, like Thandie Newton and Jeffrey Wright, and were not so hot, like Richard Dreyfuss and James Cromwell, who were too themselves to be convincingly someone so well known.
If you are curious to watch it just to see a disaster, you'd be better off not going. There was one disasterously bad scene (one of them being an attempt to re-create a CNN/Fox News type show that they titled 'Spin Ball') and very crowbarred-in Bushisms, but for the most part it was an okay movie. I didn't dislike it, but there are enough times where you just go 'whats the point of this movie'. It was very sympathetic to Colin Powell and somewhat sympathetic to George W. Bush, while being the opposite to Cheney, Rumsfield and others. It takes place entirely before 2004 which I found disappointing since pre-04 Bush made some sense where as post-04 Bush, it feels sometimes like he doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: Beth on October 19, 2008, 10:08:21 PM
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and were not so hot, like Richard Dreyfuss and James Cromwell, who were too themselves to be convincingly someone so well known.

I don't know. When I heard that Richard Dreyfuss was playing Dick Cheney, the first words out of my mouth were: "Oh...perfect."

 I can picture Dick Cheney acting very much like Dr. Leo Marvin on vacation. So it fit in my head.
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: jbissell on October 21, 2008, 04:06:40 PM
I can picture Dick Cheney acting very much like Dr. Leo Marvin on vacation. So it fit in my head.

Thanks for giving me the mental image of Cheney talking to Bush with the hand puppets!
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: Beth on October 21, 2008, 05:43:27 PM
(http://untruenews.com/images/dick_cheney.jpg)

THEN HE CAN BORROW MY SLICKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Who Else Is Surprised That They Want To See W?
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on October 21, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
(http://untruenews.com/images/dick_cheney.jpg)

THEN HE CAN BORROW MY SLICKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


good to know i wasnt the only one who heard this in my head.