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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Martin on October 29, 2008, 02:19:01 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/joaquin-phoenix-quits-act_n_138747.html
Sounds like bullshit, but you never know. It would be sad, I think he's a great actor.
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"I don't think he's kidding. He's got music and stuff."
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He looks exactly like a high school teacher that totally fucked me over so I've never been a fan.
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That's a shame. I'd been holding out hope for 8MM 2: 16MM
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The possibility of a franchise never dawned on me!
35 MM... 70 MM...
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That's a shame. I'd been holding out hope for 8MM 2: 16MM
Well, I've got good news and bad news...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448172/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448172/)
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That's a shame. I'd been holding out hope for 8MM 2: 16MM
Well, I've got good news and bad news...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448172/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448172/)
After seeing the movie in a class of mine and having a talk with the filmmaker, I found out exactly why the film bombed the way it did. The creators of the movie had no intention to call the film "8MM 2." Originally, the film was called "The Velvet Side of Hell" but was changed at the last minute by Sony Pictures to 8MM 2 without letting the filmmakers have any say in the matter. By doing that, it screwed them out of theatrical releases and doomed it to a straight to video release with minimal advertising.
Again, this is from the filmmaker's mouths, not mine, so I really can't say what is truth, and what is hype.
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The Velvet Side of Hell!
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8MM 3 was originally something called JPEG?.
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I like the way the filmmaker blames the studio for naming it 8MM 2 and that's why it was straight to video, rather than the studio had to come up with some pretense for having allowed it to exist and to be marketed to anyone at all, so they pretended it was a sequel to something people watched.
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I am intrigued by this comment (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448172/board/nest/71012262) on 8MM 2's IMDb board:
I have had enough of these fake sequels... it's just wrong. 8mm was my favourite film for a long time and this has severely tainted it.
They could have just called this "sexy movie w/ nudity and at least one threesome" if they were that worried about revenue - they didn't have to ruin my life!!! :(
If it's not an intended sequel from the start, you're only going to upset people by lying to them.
Some questions:
-Did 8MM 2 cause dontmakemegetloose to fall out of love with 8MM, or had 8MM already ceased to be his favorite film before 8MM 2 came out, and this only made it worse?
-What is dontmakemegetloose's current favorite movie?
-Would sexy movie w/ nudity and at least one threesome actually be a successful title? It's a little bit long. And wouldn't going with no capital letters in the title seem a little arty and possibly scare off the intended crowd?
-Would 8MM Too have been a better title?
With this and Road House 2 under his belt, I wonder what's next for Jonathan Schaech. He could do Clifford 2, or does he wait a while and go for Mr. Brooks Returns? I recently saw Quarantine, and afterwards, we debated the relative fame of the cast. I think it was eventually agreed that Schaeach was slightly more famous than the lady from Heroes, but less famous than that guy who always plays the Vaguely Russian Guy in movies.
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8MM 3 was originally something called JPEG?.
I realized shortly after this disaster of a post that Zack & Miri Make a Porno will probably be more skeevy than anything in the 8MM franchise.
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With this and Road House 2 under his belt, I wonder what's next for Jonathan Schaech. He could do Clifford 2, or does he wait a while and go for Mr. Brooks Returns?
That Thing You Did!
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the lady from Heroes
Which lady is this?
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Hayden Planetarium?
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(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3452/jpyk8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Can someone please change that exclamation point to a comma?
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A friend of mine used to be Joaquin Pheonix's "friend" and after awhile he realized that kinda just meant he was being used as a buffer between him and his weed dealer.
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http://www.stonesthrow.com/news/2008/11/joaquin-phoenix-dressed-like-the-dude-debuts-rap-career-at-dam-funks-funkmosphere
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Can someone please change that exclamation point to a comma?
Good point. Let's also explain to him how English is written and read.
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http://www.stonesthrow.com/news/2008/11/joaquin-phoenix-dressed-like-the-dude-debuts-rap-career-at-dam-funks-funkmosphere
In related news: Dâm-Funk is amazing.
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i like a lot of what comes from stone's throw. including this brand new thing:
(http://www.stonesthrow.com/uploads/images/product/detail/73-funshine-book-madlib-vinyl.jpg)
http://www.stonesthrow.com/store/special-edition/jasonj%C3%A4gel/73-funshine-book-madlib-vinyl
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I'm reviving this thread, because the story keeps growing weirder, just like Joaquin's beard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LieYeCudbQ8
The above video supposedly constitutes a rap performance. And in "related videos", you can also find a clip of J falling off the stage.
And according to the gossip sites, his debut album is going to be produced by Diddy. Thereby suffocating any vague shot at credibility.
What the hell? It seems like this guy used to be a somewhat sensible young man, at least relative to the milieu he came out of. What happened?
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ill give a very very very small nod to his admitting declaration that he might wake up a week from now and say, "fuck it" and move on to something else.
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Marijuuuuaaaannnnaaaa, oh how wild and zany you make
us!*
*Joaquin Phoenix(**)
**ok, we've all been there. (&&&)
&&& Wait a minute, no we haven't...
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he's got promise
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I'd like to see a joint production between Joaquin and Jail.
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What about Gertrude?
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That's some first rate white dude rap.
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After watching the vids of his "performance," I'm convinced that this is all an elaborate scam. It has to be.
Also, what's up with Johnathon Schaech and the sequels? Don't forget, he was in "Poison Ivy 2"!
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I'm pretty sure those are mats in his hair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXpYk7WGN5Y
He doesn't look like he smells very nice.
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God Bless Dave.
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McCain, Joaquin Phoenix, Paris Hilton, Blagojevitch -
Letterman might not be at the height of his funniness any longer, but he is still a pretty fearless ball-buster when it comes to certain guests and I really appreciate that about the guy.
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Letterman's old feuds from the eighties were the stuff of legend. He's actually kind of playing nice with Phoenix here. The guy's clearly having some sort of drug problem. Dave probably knows better than to go for the throat on that.
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I'm in Joaquin's corner.
I'm also in Dave's.
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I'm in Joaquin's corner.
I'm also in Dave's.
I know what you mean exactly.
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I was NOT in Joaquin's corner until watching the whole interview last night. Now I am.
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The contrast between this and his Letterman appearance three years ago is alarming.
So ... is it an Andy Kaufman-style prank?
Or is he sticking to his "done with acting" pledge by being maximally ineffective in the promotion of his "last" film?
Or is he just completely strung out on god-knows-what?
Or all of the above?
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I vote for solely an Andy Kaufman-style prank. I am 97% sure.
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I vote for solely an Andy Kaufman-style prank. I am 97% sure.
I'm 98% sure, and I would have to say Casey Affleck is an upgrade from Bob Zmuda.
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I'm pretty sure those are mats in his hair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXpYk7WGN5Y
He doesn't look like he smells very nice.
This seems like A cry for help. Doesn't it? He's obviously high. Some folks pour themselves into their work, when life at home sucks. When their life at work isn't fruitful either, this happens. Classic burnout. It's great that none of his "friends" are stepping in. I pray someones looking out for him.
Quick story: I was eating at A little hole in the wall , sometimes frequented by famous types. I was enjoying my soy chicken enchiladas & I notice some jackass is seated on the patio smoking A cigarette. The smoke is just blowing right inside the restaurant. I went outside to let this guy know what he was doing. I walk up behind him & say, "Excuse me, your cigarette smoke is blowing into the restaurant. It's killing mean, would you please put it out?". To my surprise, it's Joaquin Phoenix. He turns around and mutters something about being sorry, in A tone that sounded very wounded & fragile. His endearing, childlike apology was very sincere. When I sat back down, I felt bad. Like I had been mean to him, & I wasn't.
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The sudden change in energy at the very end of this longer version of the clip - when he takes off his shades, looks Dave in the eyes, and shakes his hand warmly - suggests to me that it's a put on. (Similarly, just before they play the clip, he pulls the gum off the desk, presumably thinking he's off-camera already.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1xK6xz8d9Q
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I hope you're right Bryan. It's no secret, money can't but you happiness.
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oh, it's a put-on u worrywarts.
(man, I like compound words)
I wanna hear that album when it comes out though
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RT @Drdrew: Make no mistake Joaquin Phoenix is not a hoax. This man is seriously ill and his life is in danger. Stand by for trouble.
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This seems like A cry for help. Doesn't it? He's obviously high. Some folks pour themselves into their work, when life at home sucks. When their life at work isn't fruitful either, this happens. Classic burnout. It's great that none of his "friends" are stepping in. I pray someones looking out for him.
[/facetious?]
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I'm doubtful this is a hoax. The Phoenix family grew up on a commune run by that Children of God cult (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_God). There's a documentary called Children of God: Lost & Found that was put out a couple of years ago. I really want to see it. Pretty much all I know about it is from Rose McGowan's interview with Howard Stern and skimming that Wikipedia entry just a few minutes ago, but it looks like pretty much everything Ms. McGowan said is probably true. Scary.
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He's fucking with people. it's funny.
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"i'll come to your house and chew gum..."
dave's still got it.
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No, Dave's reaction gave it away - the way he was laughing and playing early on. It was immediately clear like 3 questions into the interview something was up, and Dave wouldn't have kept that up otherwise. It was definitely some business, of what I'm not sure, and how "in on it" Dave was is debatable, but this wasn't a Dave vs Cher moment at all. When Dave hates someone, he makes no qualms or jokes about it, at least not like he was last night, he'll just shit on someone flat out.
Remember, nobody hates celebrities like David Michael Letterman, nobody.
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I kind of he hope isn't faking it just for the "fuck you Paul Shaffer" moment.
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not fake.
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if Casey is following him around and filming it, then I'd say it's fake.
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if Casey is following him around and filming it, then I'd say it's fake.
Not that I've known that many drug addicts, but really, you don't put on a nice shiny suit and keep your appointments if you are seriously using hard drugs. Who can confirm this? Where's that guy living in Fredericks house?
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if Casey is following him around and filming it, then I'd say it's fake.
Not that I've known that many drug addicts, but really, you don't put on a nice shiny suit and keep your appointments if you are seriously using hard drugs. Who can confirm this? Where's that guy living in Fredericks house?
most drug addicts don't have a publicist, manager, agent, etc. etc. etc telling them what to do and where to go.
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if Casey is following him around and filming it, then I'd say it's fake.
Not that I've known that many drug addicts, but really, you don't put on a nice shiny suit and keep your appointments if you are seriously using hard drugs. Who can confirm this? Where's that guy living in Fredericks house?
most drug addicts don't have a publicist, manager, agent, etc. etc. etc telling them what to do and where to go.
Are you kidding me? Since when did celebrities stop getting dangerously high? Pretty much the only profession you missed on that list is drug dealer.
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if Casey is following him around and filming it, then I'd say it's fake.
Not that I've known that many drug addicts, but really, you don't put on a nice shiny suit and keep your appointments if you are seriously using hard drugs. Who can confirm this? Where's that guy living in Fredericks house?
most drug addicts don't have a publicist, manager, agent, etc. etc. etc telling them what to do and where to go.
Are you kidding me? Since when did celebrities stop getting dangerously high? Pretty much the only profession you missed on that list is drug dealer.
did I say that?
I was explaining how he can be on hard drugs and still get on a suit and make his appointments.
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if Casey is following him around and filming it, then I'd say it's fake.
Not that I've known that many drug addicts, but really, you don't put on a nice shiny suit and keep your appointments if you are seriously using hard drugs. Who can confirm this? Where's that guy living in Fredericks house?
most drug addicts don't have a publicist, manager, agent, etc. etc. etc telling them what to do and where to go.
Are you kidding me? Since when did celebrities stop getting dangerously high? Pretty much the only profession you missed on that list is drug dealer.
did I say that?
I was explaining how he can be on hard drugs and still get on a suit and make his appointments.
Oh ok, I see now. My bad, holmes!
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Mr. Letterman's inner nun has fit over chewing gum.
Moi ain't surprised in the least.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkYlDj-iKU[/youtube]
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/usa/article2315254.ece
However many fans feel the whole thing is a hoax, as all the incidents have been filmed by his brother-in-law CASEY AFFLECK. Casey was once again in the audience in Miami, capturing the the performance on his video camera.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkYlDj-iKU[/youtube]
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This time Zach Galifiniakis has gone too far.
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This time Zach Galifiniakis has gone too far.
Asheville, NC reprazent.
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BUMP
(This is the second time I've revived this dead horse of a thread).
http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/buyers-see-joaquin-phoenix-mockumentary/
The role of "Joaquin Phoenix" was portrayed by Sacha Baron Cohen.
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I watched Two Lovers recently. Despite the fact that the characters' maturity level was at least 10 years younger than the actors, it was pretty decent.
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Two Lovers is first rate, as is the rest of James Gray's oeuvre.
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This time Zach Galifiniakis has gone too far.
This bump was worth it if only for this line.
My wife and I got off at Bedford Avenue on a recent Saturday night to walk home and were annoyed by the crowd, and then thought of Zach G. on SNL "HERE COMES THE CHOO-CHOO!"
Also, I think we can stop it with the "I'm doing a CHARACTER and will proceed to BLOW YOUR MIND."
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Casey Affleck admits the whole thing wasn't real -
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/16/casey-affleck-im-still-here-wasnt-real/?hpt=Sbin (http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/16/casey-affleck-im-still-here-wasnt-real/?hpt=Sbin)
He had previously acknowledged this in No Shit! Weekly.
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So did anybody see it? I'm still kinda intrigued, even though I've read enough reviews and coverage that there probably wouldn't be a whole lot of surprises for me.
Joaquin's return to the Letterman show next week should be interesting.
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Casey Affleck admits the whole thing wasn't real -
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/16/casey-affleck-im-still-here-wasnt-real/?hpt=Sbin (http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/16/casey-affleck-im-still-here-wasnt-real/?hpt=Sbin)
He had previously acknowledged this in No Shit! Weekly.
Seriously. I cannot imagine why anyone believed this. When I saw him on Letterman I immediately detected the strong scent of bullshit...
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Casey Affleck admits the whole thing wasn't real -
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/16/casey-affleck-im-still-here-wasnt-real/?hpt=Sbin (http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/16/casey-affleck-im-still-here-wasnt-real/?hpt=Sbin)
He had previously acknowledged this in No Shit! Weekly.
Seriously. I cannot imagine why anyone believed this. When I saw him on Letterman I immediately detected the strong scent of bullshit...
That would have been a lot better to hear 2-3 weeks ago.
By the way, I totally knew Christine O'Donnell would win a Delaware Senate primary the first time I saw her on Politically Incorrect 10 years ago.