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Title: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: Trembling Eagle on November 13, 2008, 01:57:38 AM
I hope I can delete this thread if things break bad.

I tried it and it wasn't my cup of tea, but I wanna try again. Episode suggestions?
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: WavyGravy on November 13, 2008, 03:25:27 AM
Trembling Eagle!! Haha
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Post by: chrisfoll577 on November 13, 2008, 06:21:22 AM
Mr. Monk and the Giant Insects
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Post by: Martin on November 13, 2008, 06:31:58 AM
Mr. Monk Paints His Masterpiece
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Post by: dave from knoxville on November 13, 2008, 06:47:32 AM
Mr Monk and the Mangled Eagle
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Post by: Turf Out on November 13, 2008, 07:45:37 AM
Mr. Monk and the Troll of Trolls
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Post by: Sarah on November 13, 2008, 08:00:40 AM
I do.  And my mummy loves it.
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Post by: KickTheBobo on November 13, 2008, 09:13:00 AM
what the fuck is "Monk"?
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Post by: yesno on November 13, 2008, 09:55:20 AM
Mr. Monk and the MMA Mixup

Monk is forced to go undercover as an Ultimate Fighter in order to trap a murderer.  He decides to let the murderer go free, however, when he realizes that MMA is lame.
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Post by: Sarah on November 13, 2008, 11:25:25 AM
Too many similarities to the boxing episode.
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Post by: daveB from Oakland on November 13, 2008, 11:59:05 AM
what the fuck is "Monk"?


The name of the show is "Munch", you munch.

My favorite epi is "Mr. Munch and the Shrink-ray", in which Mr. Munch goes undercover to bust a gang of teeny tiny skinheads, led by Mr. Von Trimble.
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Post by: Sarah on November 13, 2008, 12:27:21 PM
Too much like the Snoop Dog episode.
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Post by: <<<<< on November 13, 2008, 01:34:21 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Japetus_Steenstrup_sea_monks.png)

Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: Gilly on November 13, 2008, 04:01:08 PM
The best ones to watch if you're not going to watch them all are ones that don't push the main plot line along. For instance, my favorites are ones that feature Dale the Whale or an episode like Mr. Monk and Mrs. Monk but that's because they mean a lot to the continuing story.

I don't think I've seen an episode of Monk that I didn't like but these are some memorable ones that you can jump right into I think- Mr. Monk Goes to the Asylum, Mr. Monk Gets Stuck in Traffic, Mr. Monk and the Secret Santa, Mr. Monk Goes to Vegas.
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Post by: erechoveraker on November 13, 2008, 04:04:43 PM
Oh Trembling Eagle... (http://erechoveraker.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/snoop_shake.gif)

I started watching it in syndication recently, and am caring for it more than I had before. I'm not big into hour-long shows, I'm too easily distracted and anxious to be doing other things, so I don't think I ever gave it a fair shake. The episode I caught the other day, Mr. Monk and the Airplane, was really good, had some good guest stars (Tim Daly AND Garry Marshall), and was generally pretty funny.

The episode where Andy Richter and Munch become pals is great too.
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: Trembling Eagle on November 13, 2008, 11:08:49 PM
I guess what I'm really asking is....what are the episodes with Best Show references.
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Post by: Andy on November 13, 2008, 11:34:54 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1376372/filmoseries#tt0312172
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Post by: Gilly on November 13, 2008, 11:46:33 PM
Are there actually references in the show?
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Post by: Trembling Eagle on November 14, 2008, 12:08:22 AM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1376372/filmoseries#tt0312172

wow, that lead me to this

http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi3358392345/

that's not how I pictured him to be....something seems vaguely menacing about him
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Post by: masterofsparks on November 14, 2008, 06:16:19 AM
Are there actually references in the show?

There are some WFMU references but I can't recall any specific Best Show references, though I haven't seen every episode.
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Post by: Sarah on November 14, 2008, 06:46:32 AM
The episode where Andy Richter and Munch become pals is great too.

Isn't that the one that Jon Wurster wrote?
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Post by: Andy on November 14, 2008, 07:32:05 AM
who?
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Post by: Sarah on November 14, 2008, 07:33:55 AM
The guy who wrote the episode of Monk, that's who.
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Post by: Martin on November 14, 2008, 07:56:46 AM
That's the one I mentioned upthread, Mr. Monk Paints His Masterpiece.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on November 14, 2008, 12:30:06 PM
I don't know any Best Show references, but at one point a character asks Monk "Is this going to be a long story?".

Which of course is a Frangry reference.
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: Sarah on November 14, 2008, 02:24:23 PM
Yeah, you can hear a voice sometimes, but there aren't overt references.
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Post by: wwwes on November 15, 2008, 08:08:19 PM
I've heard Best Show references. There are multiple tidbits that can be found in the episode with the shock jock ("zung", "toilet talk"). I know I've definitely heard someone call someone else "soft-serve". In a Halloween episode, a kid asks for peanut chews. Nothing really overt, but little words and phrases that are used fairly often on the show.

TE, can I please point out that the scenario I assume you meant, where Andy Richter and Monk become friends, is far less interesting than if Andy Richter became friends of Munch, the detective from shows like Homicide and Law & Order: Special Victims Unit?
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: Sarah on November 16, 2008, 07:01:59 AM
That's what I meant by "voice."  There are little turns of phrase and bits of vocabulary that are clearly from the TBS and SSD, but there are direct references to neither show.

P.S.  What about a friendship between Andy Richter and Edvard Munch?
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: wwwes on November 16, 2008, 11:24:30 PM
Quote
P.S.  What about a friendship between Andy Richter and Edvard Munch?
All four. Richter, Monk, Munch and Munch. They'd take over the Sierra Mist commercials.

Did everyone already know that Monk was ending after the next season? Cause I didn't.
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: Sarah on November 17, 2008, 09:07:37 AM
I didn't, either.
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Post by: todd on November 17, 2008, 09:55:52 AM
Quote
P.S.  What about a friendship between Andy Richter and Edvard Munch?

Did everyone already know that Monk was ending after the next season? Cause I didn't.

wuuuuut?
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: wwwes on November 17, 2008, 10:11:31 AM
Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i5cb311a1dabd626362a2bb1fe08ed166)
Quote
USA Network said Friday that it is giving its long-running hit series an eighth- and final-season pickup with a 16-episode order. The final season of the show -- starring Tony Shalhoub as Adrian Monk, a brilliant detective who suffers from obsessive-compulsive disorder -- will debut in the summer.

Sources said the decision to end "Monk" after its eighth season was reached mutually by all parties involved with the show who wanted to bring the series to an end while it was still firing on all creative cylinders. And, after seven seasons, the show's high price tag likely made it hard for USA to justify going beyond an eighth season.
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Post by: Sarah on November 17, 2008, 02:56:45 PM
all parties involved with the show . . . wanted to bring the series to an end while it was still firing on all creative cylinders.

Much applause for this.  I hate the way most American shows just go on and on and on. 
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Post by: bobby. on November 17, 2008, 03:07:36 PM
Quote
P.S.  What about a friendship between Andy Richter and Edvard Munch?
All four. Richter, Monk, Munch and Munch. They'd take over the Sierra Mist commercials.

Did everyone already know that Monk was ending after the next season? Cause I didn't.

I sorta did, (http://www.friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php/topic,3626.msg71033.html#msg71033) but I don't know how!
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: chrisfoll577 on November 17, 2008, 03:12:52 PM
The end of the Monk run can only mean one thing: Monk: The Motion Picture.
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Post by: daveB from Oakland on November 17, 2008, 04:03:50 PM
The end of the Monk run can only mean one thing: Monk: The Motion Picture.

Two things. It also means that Tom will be retiring from his position at Consolidated Cardboard.
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: Sarah on November 17, 2008, 04:07:07 PM
Why?  Wouldn't it mean instead that he'll be able to devote more time to his first love?
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Post by: samir on November 17, 2008, 04:10:20 PM
Why?  Wouldn't it mean instead that he'll be able to devote more time to his first love?

Air hockey?

(Post #999)
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: wwwes on November 17, 2008, 06:41:10 PM
Something else I never noticed was that in the episode Mr. Monk and the Missing Granny, one of the main suspects is a former member of a 70s radical group called the Lightning Brigade that has reformed his life as a well-respected humanitarium. That made me surprised the other day.
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Post by: Josh on August 11, 2009, 08:56:15 AM
Did anyone else notice that Christine Rapp's assistant, played by the lovely and talented Rena Sofer, on the season premiere was named Kim Kelly (http://www.friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1559)?
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Post by: fonpr on August 11, 2009, 09:28:06 AM
I only watched a couple episodes but one of them had an environmentalist named Steve Marriott.

I have been saving something for a thread like this to appear.

I really enjoy the Pop Philosophy podcasts.  about a month ago I read about a call for submissions.  I don't know the show well enough to go for it.  But I suspect some of you kids do.

Call for Proposals: Monk and Philosophy

Mr. Monk is the latest in a long series of brilliant detectives, but like most such characters, his genius brings along with it serious flaws.  We love detective stories, but, like Sherlock Holmes and Nero Wolfe before him, we love the man of genius himself, even when we don't admire everything about him, or, indeed, wish to be like him.

Monk and Philosophy is an edited volume in Open Court Publishing Company's Popular Culture and Philosophy series.  We solicit proposals for book chapters that will engage philosophical issues within or relevant to the television series Monk, written for a general audience.  Chapters should be lively, engaging, and entertaining.  Preferably, they should help a fan of the show understand why she enjoys the show so much, and what she can take from the show that helps her better understand herself and our world.

Topics might include:

What counts as evidence?  How do we make inferences?  Why can't we do what Monk does?
Abduction and the pitfalls of inference to the best explanation
Problems with practical reasoning that Monk is able (somehow) to avoid-confirmation bias, false premises, etc.
Phenomenology of perception, and what Monk sees that others can't
Why is he named "Monk"?  Is he a contemporary ascetic?
Monk's habits and Aristotle's virtues
Freud's theory of repetition compulsion, trauma, and mourning
How is genius tied to madness?
Why do we (well, some of us) have a "will to truth," if the truth doesn't help us to be happy?
Cynicism, Diogenes and Monk:  shunning social norms and the search for an honest man
The nature of friendship, and Monk's relationships with Sharona, Natalie, and Stottlemeyer
Is "courage" the same thing for everybody?  Does Monk display a kind of moral virtue in simply leaving the house at all?
Why are we charmed by and why do we sympathize with eccentricities in fictional characters that we consider flaws, failings and vices in real people?
We welcome submissions from any philosophical perspective, and from theoretically based interdisciplinary perspectives.  Relevant figures, in addition to those mentioned above, might include James, Dewey, and Hume. Relevant areas, in addition to those mentioned above, might include philosophy of law, professional ethics, and aesthetics.  (Aesthetics?  Well, do you remember Monk's confrontation with a painting in the first episode?) Chapters comparing different characters in philosophically relevant ways are also welcome, for example:  Monk v. Holmes, Monk v. Wolfe, Monk v. House.

Proposals should be 200-400 words, and should be quick, lively presentations of the topics and questions to be addressed in the full chapter.  We are planning this book on a very tight schedule!  We want to be sure to get the book on the shelves before the series finale-preferably well before it.

Proposals due by April 1st.  Notification of acceptance shortly thereafter. Full chapters of about 4000 words due by June 16th.  Please be sure, before you send in a proposal, that you're willing and able to set aside a chunk of the first part of your summer to get this done!

Please submit to:  monk.and.philosophy@gmail.com
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Post by: fletcher munson on August 11, 2009, 09:45:49 AM
I liked the episode with the jack-hammer gag.  Guys know what I'm talking about?
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Post by: dave from knoxville on August 11, 2009, 10:12:51 AM
I liked the premiere. The readings from the child actress's biography, including several "you can't say that" sentences reminded me so much of recent calls to the Best Show that I was disappointed to learn that our favorite radio personality didn't write it.
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Post by: nec13 on August 11, 2009, 10:16:04 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyoHb2eEgaA[/youtube]

Monk?
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Post by: fletcher munson on August 11, 2009, 12:20:46 PM
Jazz.  Yuck.
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Post by: nec13 on August 11, 2009, 01:44:37 PM
How dare you say such a thing, fletcher. Open your mind man. Open your mind.
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Post by: fletcher munson on August 11, 2009, 03:37:02 PM
How wide?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGnEkYt_0g

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Post by: cas-vik on August 11, 2009, 04:15:16 PM
I liked the premiere. The readings from the child actress's biography, including several "you can't say that" sentences reminded me so much of recent calls to the Best Show that I was disappointed to learn that our favorite radio personality didn't write it.

I just watched that episode here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/88087/monk-mr-monks-favorite-show

It was great!  I haven't seen many, but the few I've seen I enjoyed. 
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Post by: Big Plastic Head on August 11, 2009, 04:40:22 PM
How wide?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGnEkYt_0g



Yay! My new ring tone! Thanks, FM!
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Post by: Gregory on August 11, 2009, 06:06:23 PM
I liked when Monk said "I knew if I could just make it till 8 o'clock on Tuesday night, everything would be alright" or something like that.
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Post by: fletcher munson on August 11, 2009, 06:28:17 PM
That would be a funny ring tone in a business meeting or somethin'.  
Derek Bailey, the only musician ever to incorporate carpal tunnel syndrome into his playing - as a accompanying musical element.
(http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww57/afamilyofturtles/carpaltunnelderekbailey.png)



I like the Monk episode with the Santa Claus on the roof.  Season One, maybe?
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Post by: buffcoat on August 11, 2009, 07:18:41 PM
Hipsters will buy into anything.
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: nec13 on August 11, 2009, 07:43:13 PM
Hipsters will buy into anything.

Truer words have never been spoken.
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Post by: fonpr on August 12, 2009, 08:20:43 PM
How wide?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGnEkYt_0g



Jimi Hendrix liked this guy.

Technically not jazz either.
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: nec13 on August 12, 2009, 08:31:53 PM
Derek Bailey's music is free improv along with Peter Brotzmann, Han Bennink, AMM, etc.

I think Brotzmann's work has immense comedic value (try getting through Machine Gun without laughing hysterically), but other than that I have no use for free improvisation.
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Post by: Reeleyes on August 13, 2009, 02:19:37 AM
Hipsters will buy into anything.

Truer words have never been spoken.

I'll buy into that.
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Post by: Christina on August 14, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
Hipsters will buy into anything.

Truer words have never been spoken.

(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt191/Aunt1eChr1st1na/21bd9d30edd4f1bd88b2238c32743547.jpg)
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Post by: bobby. on December 13, 2009, 09:19:06 AM
I only watched a couple episodes but one of them had an environmentalist named Steve Marriott.

I have been saving something for a thread like this to appear.

I really enjoy the Pop Philosophy podcasts.  about a month ago I read about a call for submissions.  I don't know the show well enough to go for it.  But I suspect some of you kids do.

Call for Proposals: Monk and Philosophy

Mr. Monk is the latest in a long series of brilliant detectives, but like most such characters, his genius brings along with it serious flaws.  We love detective stories, but, like Sherlock Holmes and Nero Wolfe before him, we love the man of genius himself, even when we don't admire everything about him, or, indeed, wish to be like him.

Monk and Philosophy is an edited volume in Open Court Publishing Company's Popular Culture and Philosophy series.  We solicit proposals for book chapters that will engage philosophical issues within or relevant to the television series Monk, written for a general audience.  Chapters should be lively, engaging, and entertaining.  Preferably, they should help a fan of the show understand why she enjoys the show so much, and what she can take from the show that helps her better understand herself and our world.

Topics might include:

What counts as evidence?  How do we make inferences?  Why can't we do what Monk does?
Abduction and the pitfalls of inference to the best explanation
Problems with practical reasoning that Monk is able (somehow) to avoid-confirmation bias, false premises, etc.
Phenomenology of perception, and what Monk sees that others can't
Why is he named "Monk"?  Is he a contemporary ascetic?
Monk's habits and Aristotle's virtues
Freud's theory of repetition compulsion, trauma, and mourning
How is genius tied to madness?
Why do we (well, some of us) have a "will to truth," if the truth doesn't help us to be happy?
Cynicism, Diogenes and Monk:  shunning social norms and the search for an honest man
The nature of friendship, and Monk's relationships with Sharona, Natalie, and Stottlemeyer
Is "courage" the same thing for everybody?  Does Monk display a kind of moral virtue in simply leaving the house at all?
Why are we charmed by and why do we sympathize with eccentricities in fictional characters that we consider flaws, failings and vices in real people?
We welcome submissions from any philosophical perspective, and from theoretically based interdisciplinary perspectives.  Relevant figures, in addition to those mentioned above, might include James, Dewey, and Hume. Relevant areas, in addition to those mentioned above, might include philosophy of law, professional ethics, and aesthetics.  (Aesthetics?  Well, do you remember Monk's confrontation with a painting in the first episode?) Chapters comparing different characters in philosophically relevant ways are also welcome, for example:  Monk v. Holmes, Monk v. Wolfe, Monk v. House.

Proposals should be 200-400 words, and should be quick, lively presentations of the topics and questions to be addressed in the full chapter.  We are planning this book on a very tight schedule!  We want to be sure to get the book on the shelves before the series finale-preferably well before it.

Proposals due by April 1st.  Notification of acceptance shortly thereafter. Full chapters of about 4000 words due by June 16th.  Please be sure, before you send in a proposal, that you're willing and able to set aside a chunk of the first part of your summer to get this done!

Please submit to:  monk.and.philosophy@gmail.com

http://www.opencourtbooks.com/books_n/monk.htm

In the words of author D. E. Wittkower, "In order to be sure that the reader is able to enjoy the book, every chapter will have an even number of words. You’ll thank me later."
Title: Re: Do you guys watch Monk?
Post by: buffcoat on December 13, 2009, 10:33:55 AM
Hipsters will buy into anything.

Truer words have never been spoken.

(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt191/Aunt1eChr1st1na/21bd9d30edd4f1bd88b2238c32743547.jpg)



Let's all dye our hair black and wear black leather. 

I admit I did some pretty dumb shit when I was young (-er than these kids).  Anyone remember Fat Laces?  But nothing as dumb as coordinating my look with my best pals.
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Post by: fonpr on December 13, 2009, 11:02:33 AM
I only watched a couple episodes but one of them had an environmentalist named Steve Marriott.

I have been saving something for a thread like this to appear.

I really enjoy the Pop Philosophy podcasts.  about a month ago I read about a call for submissions.  I don't know the show well enough to go for it.  But I suspect some of you kids do.

Call for Proposals: Monk and Philosophy

Mr. Monk is the latest in a long series of brilliant detectives, but like most such characters, his genius brings along with it serious flaws.  We love detective stories, but, like Sherlock Holmes and Nero Wolfe before him, we love the man of genius himself, even when we don't admire everything about him, or, indeed, wish to be like him.

Monk and Philosophy is an edited volume in Open Court Publishing Company's Popular Culture and Philosophy series.  We solicit proposals for book chapters that will engage philosophical issues within or relevant to the television series Monk, written for a general audience.  Chapters should be lively, engaging, and entertaining.  Preferably, they should help a fan of the show understand why she enjoys the show so much, and what she can take from the show that helps her better understand herself and our world.

Topics might include:

What counts as evidence?  How do we make inferences?  Why can't we do what Monk does?
Abduction and the pitfalls of inference to the best explanation
Problems with practical reasoning that Monk is able (somehow) to avoid-confirmation bias, false premises, etc.
Phenomenology of perception, and what Monk sees that others can't
Why is he named "Monk"?  Is he a contemporary ascetic?
Monk's habits and Aristotle's virtues
Freud's theory of repetition compulsion, trauma, and mourning
How is genius tied to madness?
Why do we (well, some of us) have a "will to truth," if the truth doesn't help us to be happy?
Cynicism, Diogenes and Monk:  shunning social norms and the search for an honest man
The nature of friendship, and Monk's relationships with Sharona, Natalie, and Stottlemeyer
Is "courage" the same thing for everybody?  Does Monk display a kind of moral virtue in simply leaving the house at all?
Why are we charmed by and why do we sympathize with eccentricities in fictional characters that we consider flaws, failings and vices in real people?
We welcome submissions from any philosophical perspective, and from theoretically based interdisciplinary perspectives.  Relevant figures, in addition to those mentioned above, might include James, Dewey, and Hume. Relevant areas, in addition to those mentioned above, might include philosophy of law, professional ethics, and aesthetics.  (Aesthetics?  Well, do you remember Monk's confrontation with a painting in the first episode?) Chapters comparing different characters in philosophically relevant ways are also welcome, for example:  Monk v. Holmes, Monk v. Wolfe, Monk v. House.

Proposals should be 200-400 words, and should be quick, lively presentations of the topics and questions to be addressed in the full chapter.  We are planning this book on a very tight schedule!  We want to be sure to get the book on the shelves before the series finale-preferably well before it.

Proposals due by April 1st.  Notification of acceptance shortly thereafter. Full chapters of about 4000 words due by June 16th.  Please be sure, before you send in a proposal, that you're willing and able to set aside a chunk of the first part of your summer to get this done!

Please submit to:  monk.and.philosophy@gmail.com

http://www.opencourtbooks.com/books_n/monk.htm

In the words of author D. E. Wittkower, "In order to be sure that the reader is able to enjoy the book, every chapter will have an even number of words. You’ll thank me later."

Thank you, Bobby.