FOT Forum

FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: wwwes on November 29, 2008, 02:34:41 AM

Title: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: wwwes on November 29, 2008, 02:34:41 AM
I say Yea.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: Gilly on November 29, 2008, 02:44:10 AM
I'm picky but I like a fair amount. Mingus, Blakey, and Alice Coltrane are my favorites.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: Martin on November 29, 2008, 04:51:27 AM
Yea.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: Sarah on November 29, 2008, 07:08:59 AM
Yea, in measured doses.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: masterofsparks on November 29, 2008, 08:44:52 AM
At large, I'd probably say "Nay," but I guess that wouldn't be fair because I really like a few artists (about 5 or 6 Miles albums, Django Reinhardt/Stephane Grappelly, Kid Ory, Sidney Bechet).

I just remembered the John Coltrane/Johnny Hartman album. I change my answer to "Yea."
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: Chris L on November 29, 2008, 09:01:11 AM
YEA!
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: crumbum on November 29, 2008, 10:07:59 AM
yea. not if there's any fusion involved, though.

what's everyone's vote for the best jazz era? personally, i keep going back to the 1920's hot 5's style stuff right up to early bebop, but i don't have a huge appetite for much beyond that. listening to coltrane or late miles always feels more intellectual than visceral... though i feel like a luddite (or a marsalis) for saying that.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: wwwes on November 29, 2008, 10:37:50 AM
I don't know if I'd say it's the best, but I'm a sucker for the cool west coast sound. Early Miles Davis (with Quintet especially), Oscar Peterson Trio, Chet Baker, even some Stan Getz. I love Mingus, Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonius Monk and Art Blakey, but I'll put on Cookin/Relaxin/Workin/Steamin more often than I will Sketches of Spain or even Kind of Blue.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: yesno on November 29, 2008, 11:21:35 AM
I love all the greats: Us3, Digable Planets...
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on November 29, 2008, 12:12:51 PM
volunteer slavery by rahsaan roland kirk!
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: KickTheBobo on November 29, 2008, 12:37:30 PM
Yea.

I challenge any rock fan to give Coltrane's Afro-Blue from Live at the Village Vanguard, and tell me that it's anything but hard-fucking-core.

you also can't beat Mingus for sheer badassness. His cat toilet training program  (http://www.mingusmingusmingus.com/Mingus/cat_training.html)is a testament to this.

(http://www.mingusmingusmingus.com/Mingus/cat_toilet.jpg)
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 29, 2008, 01:03:53 PM
Yea. Miles, Wayne Shorter, Thelonius Monk, John McLaughlin, Pat Metheny, Bill Frisell, Terence Blanchard, Omar Sosa, Gonzalo Rubalcaba, all of these are faves. I could never get into Mingus, for some reason.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: Pat K on November 29, 2008, 07:52:02 PM
Post-1933: Nay

Pre-1933: Yea.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: masterofsparks on November 29, 2008, 08:33:23 PM
I used to have a few Mingus albums during my college days but I can't remember much beyond the track "Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting." Holy moly is that a good cut.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: Bryan on November 30, 2008, 02:10:40 PM
Yea.

mos: try "the Black Saint and the Sinner Lady."

(http://991.com/newgallery/Charlie-Mingus-The-Black-Saint-A-339544.jpg)

As a matter of fact, I'm going to put this on! I oughta cross-post this to the "What are you listening to right now" thread.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 30, 2008, 04:26:15 PM
Yea. Although my knowledge is limited.

My favorites so far:


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/514LUyKeNIL._SS500_.jpg)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002WSK.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: Stupornaut on November 30, 2008, 06:31:15 PM
The Far East Suite is supoib. Money Jungle is even better.

I'm one of those dudes who likes a ton of jazz yet still can't even really find a quick and easy way to get into his head exactly what "modal" means. I am also one of those dudes who thinks it is perfectly acceptable to have shreddin' gee-tar in your jazz (see: Billy Cobham's "Stratus"; John McLaughlin's "Dragon Song"; Tony Williams Lifetime's "Red Alert"). Plus, you know who is wonderful? Rahsaan Roland Kirk, that is who is wonderful.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 08, 2009, 01:55:40 AM
Yea.  Including bloated, over-indulgent 70s fusion stuff.
Title: Re: Jazz: Yea or Nay?
Post by: Gentleman Jim on January 08, 2009, 02:08:31 AM
NAY!

Those ridiculous time signatures are impossible to mosh to!