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Title: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: Gilly on December 18, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
Apparently I need to go to clubs more often- more specifically the same clubs since most of their top 100 songs sound almost exactly the same. I hope a new trend starts tomorrow.  >:( GET OFF MY LAWN!
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: KickTheBobo on December 18, 2008, 10:37:59 PM
I've found a fun way to cleanse your musical palette is to restrict yourself for 3 months to only listening to music that YOU create.

Ideally with something like this:

(http://musingsofahousewife.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/30/kitty_keyboard_2.jpg)


a fun way for YOU. No fucking way I am doing that.



Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: Kim Kelly on December 18, 2008, 11:27:19 PM
I really want that kitty keyboard. Awwww!!!

I only read the Shovel reviews written by my friend. Strangely enough, the ratings a reviewer gives an album is not necessarily reflected by the rating that actually appears on the site. Apparently there's some sort of board that also rates the album, and I guess the final rating is an average or something. My friend reviewed one of the Crystal bands' records (Crystal Stilts, I think), and the rating that appeared on the site was a few tenths lower than his rating. Or maybe Ryan Whatshisface has executive power and fucks with the ratings.

Honestly, though, Ryan seems like a nice enough fellow. We had a chance encounter in Chicago during a 2 am rainstorm when there were no cabs to be found. We were both staying in the same area and shared a cab. If memory serves, he wound up paying more. I might have protested and offered to throw in a few more bucks, but he was a gentleman.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: Gilly on December 18, 2008, 11:48:38 PM
I'm sure they're all nice people but they seriously need to stop going to clubs. I have to say their list did make me reevaluate the Nick Cave album. Dig Lazarus Dig is actually a pretty dang good song and now I need to give the album another shot.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: Kim Kelly on December 18, 2008, 11:56:08 PM
Nick Cave can do no wrong.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: jbissell on December 19, 2008, 12:09:13 AM
Apparently I need to go to clubs more often- more specifically the same clubs since most of their top 100 songs sound almost exactly the same. I hope a new trend starts tomorrow.  >:( GET OFF MY LAWN!

How do most of them sound exactly the same?  I understand the "club" stuff sounds similar but I don't think half the list really falls into that category.  It seems like there are plenty of regular rock songs on there.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: Gilly on December 19, 2008, 02:08:36 AM
I think I was just taken back by the top 20.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: <<<<< on December 19, 2008, 03:33:52 AM
I don't really read any music-related media.  I have a fairly major rock critic friend even, and I rarely read him either.   :D 

Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: Gibby on December 19, 2008, 03:35:04 AM
I'm totally done with the Animal Collective drama. They're really not that good.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on December 19, 2008, 10:52:27 AM
im still trying to jump on that train.  it's already left the station.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: theyellowchair on December 19, 2008, 11:00:48 AM
What Hercules & Love Affair is selling...I AIN'T BUYING!

They continually praise Goldsworthy's production skills, but that album sounds completely in-the-box and soulless. Come on! Plug-in reverb and DI soft synths isn't DISCO!

(However, LCD Soundsystem's  "Sound of Silver," another Goldsworthy production, was about as greasy as greasy funk can get. In the best way possible. No cheesy shit there.)
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: cutout on December 19, 2008, 11:09:02 AM
I'm totally done with the Animal Collective drama. They're really not that good.

You don't enjoy Donald Duck impersonations over a bed of backward reverb? Open your mind, man.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: yesno on December 19, 2008, 11:27:28 AM
Animal Collective is good, but they just do one very narrow thing well. A lot of music is like that. I can listen to the first couple of songs on the album and love them, but am bored by the third song. Even though it's just as good as the others
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on December 19, 2008, 11:41:57 AM
Animal Collective is good, but they just do one very narrow thing well. A lot of music is like that. I can listen to the first couple of songs on the album and love them, but am bored by the third song. Even though it's just as good as the others

i feel that way about Weezer (and lots others).  i enjoy Weezer (strictly blue album and pinkerton, b-sides) and admittedly, it's because i can play both albums back to back and its like listening to one long album. 
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: theyellowchair on December 19, 2008, 12:22:05 PM
Animal Collective is good, but they just do one very narrow thing well. A lot of music is like that. I can listen to the first couple of songs on the album and love them, but am bored by the third song. Even though it's just as good as the others

i feel that way about Weezer (and lots others).  i enjoy Weezer (strictly blue album and pinkerton, b-sides) and admittedly, it's because i can play both albums back to back and its like listening to one long album. 

Seconded.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: Gilly on December 19, 2008, 12:47:09 PM
Did you listen to Alone II? I wasn't even going to bother since Alone I was so awful but it turned out to be really good. Most of the songs would have made a great post-Pinkerton album.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on December 19, 2008, 12:59:58 PM
i let go of weezer after pinkerton and never looked back.  its unfortunate because i really enjoyed them as a pop band, but as Tom says, "it's time to grow up."
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: Stupornaut on December 19, 2008, 01:15:08 PM
I only read the Shovel reviews written by my friend. Strangely enough, the ratings a reviewer gives an album is not necessarily reflected by the rating that actually appears on the site. Apparently there's some sort of board that also rates the album, and I guess the final rating is an average or something. My friend reviewed one of the Crystal bands' records (Crystal Stilts, I think), and the rating that appeared on the site was a few tenths lower than his rating. Or maybe Ryan Whatshisface has executive power and fucks with the ratings.

I have never written anything that had the rating messed with without my go-ahead, so I have no idea what the deal is there. Then again I don't give half a fart about Fleet Foxes and I think just about any electro act you can name at random is a billion times better than Crystal Castles so I'm not exactly the archetypal Shovel writer. (Problem is, I like a whole lot of that bleep-bleep club music Gilly is protesting against, so maybe I am not much help.)

Also I thought more people here would be "woo, Titus Andronicus, you heard it here first".
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: <<<<< on December 19, 2008, 06:54:47 PM
Gilly isn't entirely opposed to electro, insofar as Ladytron could still be considered such.  We both liked that album.

Crystal Castles strike me as a couple of kids still learning how to make music.  I think that one was picked a couple years before it was ripe.  Who knows, a couple years down the road they might have more to offer.
Title: Re: I'm officially done caring about the Shovel's reviews and lists.
Post by: Gilly on December 19, 2008, 10:29:28 PM
Yeah, I don't mind the sound but when so much of it is acclaimed it all runs together and you have to wonder what separates one song/band from the next. It also seems like most of the list is a soundtrack to a good night out. Culture shaping the art instead of the other way around.