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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: pizzaparty on January 10, 2009, 01:02:23 PM
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God help me, I voted Spike.
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It sure seems like Fredericks is hot and Spike is not.
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Leave Spike behind in the Bush administration. He's ovah.
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If spike goes, we will never know the fate of howard stoin
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If spike goes, we will never know the fate of howard stoin
I have a feeling that he'll be left in a swimming pool to drown.
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hahaha.
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I went with Spike because I think he'd be the first to fight dirty. Of course, Fredericks did give the impression that he's seen a bumfight or two in his day, so who knows what he learned from that. But in the end, I don't think he'd have the cardio to last very long.
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If Fredericks can maintain his energy and if he didn't run away, I think he could take Spike. And it seems like he's the type of person who could be tazered and never notice. I imagine he's like a Frankenstein's monster-zombie hybrid.
I think Fredericks might be a coward, though, and if he started running away, Spike would beat him to death with a mace.
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It has to be Spike. Fredericks seems slightly unhinged, but you don't get the sense that if he snapped he'd turn violent.
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I have really like Fredericks but Tom is right -- he's buying into his own shtick, now. He's Jeremy Shockey, he's Joe the Plumber -- he is going to go sour faster than half-price milk.
Spike has endurance, does not smoke, has amazingly strong calves from peeping into windows -- Spike wins.
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Fredericks. Sure, Spike's a tough guy when he has a client strapped into the whupping chair, but in a brawl I think he'd curl into a ball and bawl. (God, I don't know what possessed me there--I'm sorry.)
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I'm going with Spike - he's not afraid of blood, his own or yours either.
Fredericks might be dangerous to beat though if he was chasing Spike down in that ratty old '76 Chrysler Cordoba he putts around NPR in. Spike'd have to go all Death Proof on Fredericks though if that happened, either that or join forces and drive to Atlantic City together.
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Droopy Zippermouth.
The lack of understanding that the shtick is a shtick - you can't teach that.
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Spike. Always. Whether Fredericks has "it" or not--and I won't argue that he doesn't--he doesn't have the texture Spike has. Sure, Fredericks is up-front and unhinged, but I know a million guys just like him. He's cheap fun and he won't replace the old-friend vibe guys like Spike brings to the table.
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I'm voting Spike to stay on his good side. I never want my skin to be used as a jump-suit is all I'm sayin'.
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To really answer this question, I feel you MUST look at the scenario of Freddy Krueger going up against Jason Voorhees, as evidenced in the film Freddy vs. Jason (2003).
On one hand you have Spike, a man with a slow and steady Jason Voorhees-like way of achieving his ends. This is a method of battle that has proven to work very well over time. He will sit in that summer camp for years, neigh centuries (see Jason X) just to win his battle. No matter how many times you make fun of his plate and fork or mock his love for doo-wop he will keep coming back, because he is an indestructible force of nature hell bent on one thing: ridding the world of horny teenagers.
Fredericks, to ride this metaphor all the way home, is the Freddy Krueger to Spike's Jason. All of his impulsive, chaotic "attacks" are delivered with a sarcastic wink to the camera that the Spike/Jason archetype does not have. Like his namesake, Fredericks lives in a surreal New Port Richey/Elm Street dream dimension from which he can reach out, into the real world, to blow peoples minds. They both also have disturbing laughs.
Experts (creepy, pathetic experts) will tell you that this debate can never end, so it's probably not worth your time to hash it out. I personally have to go with Spike, for the reason that he is nigh invincible.
All of that aside, I think this youtube video explains it better than anyone could:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwwZvkVTaC0
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Prooving that they are both alive, and that you can never really kill Pure Evil.
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Clearly you Fredericks supporters never saw the end of Hannibal.
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You Spike champions are deluded. He "disciplines" people who volunteer for it; otherwise, I'm betting he's a softie. In Fredericks, however, I see a potential for blackout rage, the kind that inures a guy to pain, so that he'd just pound, and pound, and pound, and pound, indifferent to his opponent's feeble attempts to fend him off as he reduced Spike's soft, pampered flesh to pulp
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You Spike champions are deluded. He "disciplines" people who volunteer for it; otherwise, I'm betting he's a softie. In Fredericks, however, I see a potential for blackout rage, the kind that inures a guy to pain, so that he'd just pound, and pound, and pound, and pound, indifferent to his opponent's feeble attempts to fend him off as he reduced Spike's soft, pampered flesh to pulp
I have to agree with Sarah on this one. Spike sounds like anything but a fighter.
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I'm not sure if strength is gonna go all that far. I'm thinking telepathic abilities. Spike glancing at a bench at the end of the ring, then that bench soars through the air at Fredericks. I haven't read each and every post in this thread, so I'm sorry if I've repeated a thought.
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I'm not sure if strength is gonna go all that far. I'm thinking telepathic abilities. Spike glancing at a bench at the end of the ring, then that bench soars through the air at Fredericks. I haven't read each and every post in this thread, so I'm sorry if I've repeated a thought.
This is why I love the FOT and the collective creativity. Ben had to sincerely (I think) say he's sorry if someone already imagined Spike using telepathic powers in a fight.
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I'm not sure if strength is gonna go all that far. I'm thinking telepathic abilities. Spike glancing at a bench at the end of the ring, then that bench soars through the air at Fredericks. I haven't read each and every post in this thread, so I'm sorry if I've repeated a thought.
This is why I love the FOT and the collective creativity. Ben had to sincerely (I think) say he's sorry if someone already imagined Spike using telepathic powers in a fight.
Hey, respect from here to eternity.
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You Spike champions are deluded. He "disciplines" people who volunteer for it; otherwise, I'm betting he's a softie. In Fredericks, however, I see a potential for blackout rage, the kind that inures a guy to pain, so that he'd just pound, and pound, and pound, and pound, indifferent to his opponent's feeble attempts to fend him off as he reduced Spike's soft, pampered flesh to pulp
I have to agree with Sarah on this one. Spike sounds like anything but a fighter.
Yes, indeed! I have to agree with Sarah and Erika. If Fredericks naked and chained up in Spike's dungeon, I am sure Spike could win. Fredericks could really snap, though. He would be like those drug addled male strangers waiting in dark alleys to attack women stupid enough to leave the their home alone at night and even mace wouldn't stop him because his rage would rule his body.
Still, I think Spike is most frightening of the two. You could easily talk their way out of Fredericks' dungeon, if he had a dungeon and hadn't murdered you yet. I imagine Spike would realise you were trying to talk your way out of his dungeon and enjoy himself even more.
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You Spike champions are deluded. He "disciplines" people who volunteer for it; otherwise, I'm betting he's a softie. In Fredericks, however, I see a potential for blackout rage, the kind that inures a guy to pain, so that he'd just pound, and pound, and pound, and pound, indifferent to his opponent's feeble attempts to fend him off as he reduced Spike's soft, pampered flesh to pulp
OH PETS, I'M NEVER SOFT. BESIDES, I ALWAYS PREVAIL !!!!!!
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History proves you false: Tom bests you time and again, sir.
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Spike is a Mayor of New Port Richey?
I feel shocked (and slightly sullied).
Where do I go to find the mean Tom posts?
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Having listened to the show since way back in the days when Spike would do his "where's Debbie" crank calls, it's been a fascinating experience getting to know him. That said, he will never not completely creep me out. Fredericks is more self-aware, which makes him a little less fun when it comes to Tom giving him the runaround, like he does Spike. Unless Fredericks sends Tom a dead fish or gets invited to the studio to sing some of his original blues rock compositions, I see both of these guys being able to go the long haul.
So if we're talking bare-knuckle fistfighting, they'd both be handburger.
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If it is some sort of ultraviolent and cinematic battle I vote Fredericks, I can see him talking away while he slams a bloody and barely compus Spike around his Den. "Why are you making me do this to you Spike? Why do you always make me do this?"
If we are talking a Best Show curiosity battle, I got to go with Spike. I got a feeling Fredericks will turn up with a Poker chip for an eye and a birdcage for a leg in a matter of weeks.
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Dear Pinky (Mayor of NP effin' Arrrrrrr)
Your former statement was extremely perspicacious.
Your latter statement sounded like you were drunk and bulletproof (you're not).
Free advice: Watch your mouth>
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Dear Pinky (Mayor of NP effin' Arrrrrrr)
Your former statement was extremely perspicacious.
Your latter statement sounded like you were drunk and bulletproof (you're not).
Free advice: Watch your mouth>
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Consider yourself warned Pinky. I don't know who this Fan Of National Public Radio is, but he seems to mean business.
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all this mentioning of spike and mace- he's undoubtedly built an immunity. this does no good.
nonetheless, i voted for fredericks.
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Another vote for Fredericks here.
Because Spike can't drive to my doorstep in two hours and scare me.
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Samir you have always struck me as an intelligent and placid person.
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Is it me or is Fredericks slowly turning into Stevie Blue?
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Slowly?
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Is it me or is Fredericks slowly turning into Stevie Blue?
The whole trying to get his music onto the show aspect last night is something I didn't know Fredericks had, and is definitely a step into a Stevie Blue/He Who Shall Not Be Named direction.
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History proves you false: Tom bests you time and again, sir.
NOT ALWAYS, LOVEY
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Spike, c'mon. I'm sorry if I'm repeating anyone else's observation, but your position says, "Mayor of New Port Richey." You got strings to pull. Go with what you got.
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Quote from: Tedstud on Today at 11:23:59 AM
Is it me or is Fredericks slowly turning into Stevie Blue? IT'S YOU!
The whole trying to get his music onto the show aspect last night is something I didn't know Fredericks had, and is definitely a step into a Stevie Blue/He Who Shall Not Be Named direction.
Christopher: I've got nothing to sell. I just love wide open radio.
I notice you're not even at Spike's level. Mayor of some pulsating community.
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hey fredericks, liked the song. regarding bouts in the ring, what's your training regimen?
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I always start with Three rounds with Schopenhauer
after that I'm ready for anything.
Tommy Gunn is wind sprints.
(Don't tell him).
Bob Lassiter is the Bon Scott of radio.
"Emmanuel Kant was an old piss ant and very rarely ever stable"
E-mail me for more perspicacity".
Plato and a Platypus Walk into a Bar................
I thought he said "Den"
I wasn't being pushy.
I was Pushy.
When you're done with Best Show pod-crasts I may suggest "Pop Philosophy"
You are a fine human being, Ben.
Keep up the good work.
Confessional from a Fan of Nat'l Public Radeeooo
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Amazing, Fredericks. I've been to church and I think I'm a convert.
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I think we're forgetting greater questions here.
What are the rules?
- Vale Tudo: Spike via repeated groin punches
- Unified MMA: Fredericks via kimura lock late in the 3rd round
- Marquis of Queensbury: Fredericks by DQ (ear bite)
- "Karate Kid" style tournament: Spike via sweeping the leg
- K-1: Fredericks by three knockdown TKO
Oh, and a prison yard bare knuckler? Gotta go with whoever has deeper ties to the Iron Brotherhood.
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I think we're forgetting greater questions here.
What are the rules?
- Vale Tudo: Spike via repeated groin punches
- Unified MMA: Fredericks via kimura lock late in the 3rd round
- Marquis of Queensbury: Fredericks by DQ (ear bite)
- "Karate Kid" style tournament: Spike via sweeping the leg
- K-1: Fredericks by three knockdown TKO
Oh, and a prison yard bare knuckler? Gotta go with whoever has deeper ties to the Iron Brotherhood.
I Know the Iron Brothers, but I say "Oh, Brother" when I run into them. A lot are cops!
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I always start with Three rounds with Schopenhauer
after that I'm ready for anything.
Tommy Gunn is wind sprints.
(Don't tell him).
Bob Lassiter is the Bon Scott of radio.
"Emmanuel Kant was an old piss ant and very rarely ever stable"
E-mail me for more perspicacity".
Plato and a Platypus Walk into a Bar................
I thought he said "Den"
I wasn't being pushy.
I was Pushy.
When you're done with Best Show pod-crasts I may suggest "Pop Philosophy"
You are a fine human being, Ben.
Keep up the good work.
Confessional from a Fan of Nat'l Public Radeeooo
Thank you for getting the joke, Fredericks!
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Fredericks' calls have become a show highlight for me. The use of previously recorded clips, Tom's interaction with him... they crack me up every time.
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Fredericks' calls have become a show highlight for me. The use of previously recorded clips, Tom's interaction with him... they crack me up every time.
Phil ... I just saw your avatar and read your post and thought to myself, "I don't remember writing that!"
ooooooh you're the best friend
that I've ever had!
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wha?! i thought i was having a mental episode, briefly. good heavens.
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If Fredericks can maintain his energy and if he didn't run away, I think he could take Spike. And it seems like he's the type of person who could be tazered and never notice. I imagine he's like a Frankenstein's monster-zombie hybrid.
I think Fredericks might be a coward, though, and if he started running away, Spike would beat him to death with a mace.
Kudo's for saying Frankenstein's monster and not just Frankenstein! I also bet if Fredericks was ever injured and bled he would just regenerate smaller Fredericks, in weird deformed animal shapes like in the remake of the Thing. Were-Fredericks.
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If Fredericks can maintain his energy and if he didn't run away, I think he could take Spike. And it seems like he's the type of person who could be tazered and never notice. I imagine he's like a Frankenstein's monster-zombie hybrid.
I think Fredericks might be a coward, though, and if he started running away, Spike would beat him to death with a mace.
Kudo's for saying Frankenstein's monster and not just Frankenstein! I also bet if Fredericks was ever injured and bled he would just regenerate smaller Fredericks, in weird deformed animal shapes like in the remake of the Thing. Were-Fredericks.
Frederix is fractal?
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Frederix is fractal?
Until the point at which the sub-Fredericks are smaller than a nicotine molecule. Those poor souls are sentient phlegm-beasts.
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If Fredericks can maintain his energy and if he didn't run away, I think he could take Spike. And it seems like he's the type of person who could be tazered and never notice. I imagine he's like a Frankenstein's monster-zombie hybrid.
I think Fredericks might be a coward, though, and if he started running away, Spike would beat him to death with a mace.
Kudo's for saying Frankenstein's monster and not just Frankenstein! I also bet if Fredericks was ever injured and bled he would just regenerate smaller Fredericks, in weird deformed animal shapes like in the remake of the Thing. Were-Fredericks.
Frederix is fractal?
Fractal? Thanks for making me use a dictionary! And after looking it up, not sure how it applies. Quasi-self-similarity variety I guess?
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If Fredericks can maintain his energy and if he didn't run away, I think he could take Spike. And it seems like he's the type of person who could be tazered and never notice. I imagine he's like a Frankenstein's monster-zombie hybrid.
I think Fredericks might be a coward, though, and if he started running away, Spike would beat him to death with a mace.
Kudo's for saying Frankenstein's monster and not just Frankenstein! I also bet if Fredericks was ever injured and bled he would just regenerate smaller Fredericks, in weird deformed animal shapes like in the remake of the Thing. Were-Fredericks.
Frederix is fractal?
Fractal? Thanks for making me use a dictionary! And after looking it up, not sure how it applies. Quasi-self-similarity variety I guess?
Frederix is meta?