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Title: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: Sploops on March 11, 2009, 03:37:39 PM
Are they good?  What do they taste like?  Where can I buy one in New England this time of year?
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: A.M. Thomas on March 11, 2009, 04:05:34 PM
I recently made a tweet (http://twitter.com/WaxDustcoat/status/1294703864) about how great persimmons are!

They are very sweet and one of the best fruits I've ever had.  Unlike peaches, you could probably eat a whole bunch without getting tired of them.  I purchased my persimmon at a local Asian fruit and vegetable grocer and I imagine you could do the same.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: The Haacksawist on March 11, 2009, 04:13:56 PM
Is this similar to a Cinnabon?  I have eaten one of those.  And it was delicious.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: Man Machine on March 11, 2009, 04:14:25 PM
In southern Indiana I used to have persimmon pudding, but I associate it more with Autumn.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: Trotskie on March 11, 2009, 06:19:16 PM
Try cutting one in half and then freezing it.  As it thaws just a bit, you can scrape/scoop out its innards.  It has a milkyness about it that is refreshing; like sherbet.  Or maybe gelato.  I can never remember the difference.

Either way, true story.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: JustSheaNo on March 11, 2009, 07:30:05 PM
Typically you can find fuyu persimmon in Japanese food markets. They are very common around the christmas/new years holiday here in the west.

They must be very, very, ripe, to the point of looking blemished, before they are ready to eat. At readiness they are meltingly soft and sweet.

An underripe persimmon is astringent and chalky tasting, like a mouthful of raw flour and a chaser of SeaBreez.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: steve davidson on March 11, 2009, 07:37:46 PM
and all this time i couldve been eating underripe persimmons.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: A.M. Thomas on March 12, 2009, 02:56:18 AM
Typically you can find fuyu persimmon in Japanese food markets. They are very common around the christmas/new years holiday here in the west.

They must be very, very, ripe, to the point of looking blemished, before they are ready to eat. At readiness they are meltingly soft and sweet.

An underripe persimmon is astringent and chalky tasting, like a mouthful of raw flour and a chaser of SeaBreez.

Ahhh, I do remember that I had to wait a few days for it to ripen, so maybe persimmons are more challenging a fruit than I thought.  I'm not sure if they're even available by me now.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: sleepytako on March 12, 2009, 04:27:00 AM
Persimmons (柿 kaki in Japanese) are very popular here in the fall. I find eating them fresh, even if ripened correctly, is sometime a bit overpowering. A common thing to do with them is to hang them up and let them dry (See this blog on info on how to do it: http://nihonhacks.com/japanese-food/nothing-says-japanese-christmas-like-tsurushigaki-aka-looking-out-my-window-in-japan/ (http://nihonhacks.com/japanese-food/nothing-says-japanese-christmas-like-tsurushigaki-aka-looking-out-my-window-in-japan/). They are really good that way. My mother in law did it last winter.

My favorite persimmons are the dried organic ones that are grown in San Diego county in California by Flanigan Farms. Sometimes you can find them in supermarkets in So.Cal, but I order them online (http://www.flaniganfarms.com/ (http://www.flaniganfarms.com/)). They make great gifts. I even bring them back from the States and give them out here in Japan.

Japanese language note: kaki is also the word oyster in Japanese.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: buffcoat on March 12, 2009, 10:59:05 AM
and all this time i couldve been eating underripe persimmons.

Keep it up, Steve!  Don't burn out like all the others.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: steve davidson on March 12, 2009, 11:54:31 AM
i quit.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: Sarah on March 12, 2009, 01:30:43 PM
One way persimmons are made edible is through bletting, which medlars also must undergo before they can be eaten.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: Regular Joe on March 12, 2009, 08:50:40 PM
One way persimmons are made edible is through bletting, which medlars also must undergo before they can be eaten.

I'll blett your medlars if you don't stop making up words, smarty pants!
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: Gore Marie on March 13, 2009, 10:41:45 AM
Yes, they're like candyyyyy. 
But, I concur the warning about eating them underripe.  I talked them up to my friend then she called me upset because she got one and it made her tongue all numb and tingly in a bad way.  Whoooops.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: Bryan on March 13, 2009, 11:00:31 AM
Yeah, isn't the peel poisonous or something? That may explain the tingly tongue. (Wikipedia does not support this assertion, but I have nonetheless heard that this is the case.)
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: break on March 13, 2009, 03:53:35 PM
Hmm, the grocery store near my work has dried ones.  I'll have to try. 
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: Sarah on March 14, 2009, 07:57:12 AM
My crazy friend planted a medlar tree up here a couple years ago.  Last year it produced one tiny, currant-sized fruit.  This year it produced three.  Someday, perhaps, it will yield something of a decent size so I can finally get a taste.

Here are some medlar-related quotations that I dug up at her request when she first made her purchase:

        "This white top advertises my old years,
        My heart, too, is as mouldy as my hairs,
        Unless I fare like medlar, all perverse.
        For that fruit's never ripe until it's worse,
        And falls among the refuse or in straw.
        We ancient men, I fear, obey this law:
        Until we're rotten, we cannot be ripe."
(prologue to "The Reeve's Tal," The Canterbury Tales)

        "Now will he sit under a medlar tree,
        And wish his mistress were that kind of fruit
        As maids call medlars, when they laugh alone.
        O Romeo, that she were, O that she were
        An open-arse and thou a poperin pear!"
(Romeo and Juliet, act 2, scene 1, lines 34-38)

        "I scarce know her, for the beauty of her cheek hath,
         like the moon, suffered strange eclipses since I beheld it:
         women are like medlars.--no sooner ripe but rotten"
(Thomas Dekker, The Honest Whore)

        "Wineskins of brown morbidity, autumnal excrementa ...
        an exquisite odour of leave taking"
(D.H. Lawrence)

        "A fruit, vulgarly called an open arse; of which it is
        more truly than delicately said, that it is never ripe till it
        is as rotten as a turd, and then it is not worth a fart."
(18th century definition of the medlar fruit)

Take that, RJ.
Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: Fido on March 14, 2009, 06:29:42 PM
         women are like medlars._no sooner ripe but rotten"
(Thomas Dekker, The Honest Whore)

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

        "Wineskins of brown morbidity, autumnal excrementa ...
        an exquisite odour of leave taking"
(D.H. Lawrence)

        "A fruit, vulgarly called an open arse; of which it is
        more truly than delicately said, that it is never ripe till it
        is as rotten as a turd, and then it is not worth a fart."
(18th century definition of the medlar fruit)


I think these really belong in Chinatown.

Title: Re: Anyone here ever eat a persimmon?
Post by: JustSheaNo on March 18, 2009, 08:55:12 PM
Yes, they're like candyyyyy. 
But, I concur the warning about eating them underripe.  I talked them up to my friend then she called me upset because she got one and it made her tongue all numb and tingly in a bad way.  Whoooops.

She may have been mildly allergic. I get the same reaction to apples, pears, peaches,  and plums.

Very sad for me indeed.