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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: nec13 on March 20, 2009, 10:07:26 PM
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There are probably not a lot of Fox News Channel watchers on this board. I'm not one myself. But I happened to come across this show while flipping the channels last week and found this slightly disturbing. It's Glenn Beck "crying" on the air. Does anyone know what this is all about?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM[/youtube]
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All I can say is when he started talking, I made it through about five seconds.
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I could tolerate him on CNN but I can't stand him anymore. It's like anchors catch the Fox News bug that repels straight thinking people.
On a related note. My college was recently named one of the "Dirty Dozen" by a conservative commentator for having Prof's with liberal/commie/freethinking ideals.
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If I understand correctly, Glenn Beck believes in eschatology. This probably explains many of his behavioral tendencies. But I think he may be mentally unstable. Or he's just a great actor.
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Hate pit times 1000.
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This guy told viewers of his show to go watch his standup act. While I didn't do that, nor am I a viewer of his show, it tells me that this guy is a pure entertainer in the vein of O'Reilly or Limbaugh. Except less bright than even O'Reilly.
Besides, if you're a Christian who believes in the end times, then two principles should be remembered.
- You Can't Stop It.
If you think that the end times were foretold, then clearly it's already in motion. I don't know much about the physics of time travel, but I'm pretty sure the text on your Bible won't magically fade away like in Back To The Future. - You Should Be Happy.
Not only will you be going up to heaven with eternal happiness, all those damned liberals that you hate so much it gives you a reason to live will be burning in hell like you always hoped. So yay!
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The thing that is frightening about pundits like Beck and his ilk is that there are people that take him seriously. It is possible to disagree with someone politically without resorting to histrionics and fear mongering. Apparently this is what people want though. His ratings are huge.
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I could tolerate him on CNN but I can't stand him anymore. It's like anchors catch the Fox News bug that repels straight thinking people.
On a related note. My college was recently named one of the "Dirty Dozen" by a conservative commentator for having Prof's with liberal/commie/freethinking ideals.
I'd say congratulations about your college being in this commentators crosshairs, so to speak. I've come to believe that if the so-called right-wing blogosphere, or the likes of Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly or Michelle Malkin are complaining about something, it's worth checking out, and might be a great thing.
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Agreed. In my years of college, I had professors that were liberal for sure. However, I never had one professor discriminate against a student because he or she was of a different political persuasion. I think that suppression of conservative ideals on college campuses is a fallacy for the most part. It may exist in some corners, but I don't believe it is prevalent.
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Agreed. In my years of college, I had professors that were liberal for sure. However, I never had one professor discriminate against a student because he or she was of a different political persuasion. I think that suppression of conservative ideals on college campuses is a fallacy for the most part. It may exist in some corners, but I don't believe it is prevalent.
I had a liberal professor refuse to let a conservative student speak during a discussion. I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, but I have seen it happen. It made my stomach hurt.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wrwhKu5_m8
Here's the whole thing.
Say what you will about this, but at least it's entertaining.
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Agreed. In my years of college, I had professors that were liberal for sure. However, I never had one professor discriminate against a student because he or she was of a different political persuasion. I think that suppression of conservative ideals on college campuses is a fallacy for the most part. It may exist in some corners, but I don't believe it is prevalent.
I had a liberal professor refuse to let a conservative student speak during a discussion. I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, but I have seen it happen. It made my stomach hurt.
I probably should amend my previous statement. I never saw it happen in any of the classes that I took. But as you pointed I guess it does happen sometimes. What bothers me is when any professor espouses any political ideology, be it liberal or conservative. That shouldn't just happen in an academic setting. The fact that a conservative student was prevented from speaking is completely wrong.
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I whip conservative students with my belt.
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I didn't know that corporal punishment was back in style.
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If it's all an act, I suggest he take an acting class.
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His crying act might be more believable if there were any tears.
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I've always had a certain sense that he was, deep down, the worst of the lot. And I've spent a good amount of time watching and reading stuff by these folks. Mostly to keep me from getting pissed off enough at the Democrats to vote Republican, and to make sure I know what I'm talking about when I say what jerks these people are.
I'm something of a political centrist, which probably makes me the extreme right-winger on the board, but Glenn Beck is a repulsive asshole with a demogoguic, us-vs-them to the point of murdering "them" vibe that makes Limbaugh, Coulter and Malkin look like David Broder. And those three are still awful.
If you're not paying attention, all these folks are more and more calling for their "us" to hate and want to kill you guys' "them." Keep yourselves safe, folks, especially if you are an easily identified member of "them." Or an AIG executive, if any happen to frequent this board.
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I caught a little bit of this as it was airing live and they showed people gathering at bars to watch Glenn Beck and celebrate American ideals. My favorite was the shot of Chuck Norris at his ranch with a bunch of people.
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True story: I checked out the White Power website 'stormfront' just out of curiosity to see how they're handling the whole 'President Obama' thing.
Actually they seem to be taking it better than Glenn Beck is.
They are still all racist scum. I'm just saying: he's alarmist and ridiculous. Also, I say without facetiousness: he's hurting America.
I've always had a certain sense that he was, deep down, the worst of the lot. And I've spent a good amount of time watching and reading stuff by these folks. Mostly to keep me from getting pissed off enough at the Democrats to vote Republican, and to make sure I know what I'm talking about when I say what jerks these people are.
I'm something of a political centrist, which probably makes me the extreme right-winger on the board, but Glenn Beck is a repulsive asshole with a demogoguic, us-vs-them to the point of murdering "them" vibe that makes Limbaugh, Coulter and Malkin look like David Broder. And those three are still awful.
If you're not paying attention, all these folks are more and more calling for their "us" to hate and want to kill you guys' "them." Keep yourselves safe, folks, especially if you are an easily identified member of "them." Or an AIG executive, if any happen to frequent this board.
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I dunno, I think he's kinda cool.
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About as cool as a root canal without anesthetic.
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About as cool as a root canal without anesthetic.
good one
what you guys fail to realize is that by allowing yourself to believe that this grandstanding douche is being genuine, you're just as guilty of the "us vs. them" mentality as the people who legitimately watch his show. Nobody with a brain watches Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc... and thinks that they are anything more than entertainment. A lot of dumb people do think it's news. A lot of dumb people also use it to point out why the other side is evil.
In a world full of carnies and rubes, it always makes me chuckle when one rube points at another and laughs.
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About as cool as a root canal without anesthetic.
good one
what you guys fail to realize is that by allowing yourself to believe that this grandstanding douche is being genuine, you're just as guilty of the "us vs. them" mentality as the people who legitimately watch his show. Nobody with a brain watches Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc... and thinks that they are anything more than entertainment. A lot of dumb people do think it's news. A lot of dumb people also use it to point out why the other side is evil.
In a world full of carnies and rubes, it always makes me chuckle when one rube points at another and laughs.
Yeah, absolutely true. Because there's no chance that any idiot would take the words of a demagogue guy getting paid tremendous amounts of money to be entertainingly provocative and actually do something really damaging because of those words. Like, just to pick a random example, blow up a federal building. Maybe one named after a famous local lawyer and judge.
What state did you say you're from, Andy?
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I'm not saying that there aren't some real bags of shit out there, there obviously are. Crazy people are crazy.
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Andy, CNN isn't serious news?
**gulp**
ok, after the 24/7 Terri Schiavo vigil, and the ruckus about that poor kid who fell down the well, I gave up my last remaining hope that CNN might be something better than just infotainment. My remaining illusions were shattered. MSNBC and Fox = infotainment + ideological cheerleading.
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Let me preface this by saying that I love Countdown and Rachel Maddow.
While I agree that the programming on both stations is geared toward a specific audience, I think there's a difference between MSNBC and FOX. What I see is on FOX there seems to be an attack in the name of party advancement, on MSNBC I feel like it's more "lets point out what's wrong, and lets speak to several people who might know how to fix it or know something about it." Rachel Maddow regularly interviews Republican lawmakers, and does so in a civil way. O'Reilly and Beck, in the times I've watched them, have people of opposing viewpoints on mainly, it seems, to make them the object of the night's ridicule instead of being someone they can at least learn to appreciate the other side's point of view from.
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they present their entertainment differently because they're selling to different audiences. Fox sells with fear because for the most part their audience is dumb; MSNBC sells with smug superiority to the people who look down on those idiots who watch fox news.
either way, I think that trying to censor the message of either because of a lunatic who acts as a reaction to something said on a cable talkshow is wrong and scary.
did I use that semicolon correctly?
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also, my parents have a cat named Lothar.
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Andy in this thread = dead on.
Cable "news" is just a symptom of the old, dying media.
However, I do find it disturbing that we go to our news sources for entertainment (e.g. Fox News, MSNBC) and to our entertainment sources for news (e.g. the Daily Show, the Colbert Report). No wonder irony is so prevalent in my generation.
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ok, after the 24/7 Terri Schiavo vigil, and the ruckus about that poor kid who fell down the well, I gave up my last remaining hope that CNN might be something better than just infotainment. My remaining illusions were shattered.
Yes, but have you seen CNN International?
I can only assume that I've shamed you. Good day, sir!
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I watched Glenn Beck today and I think he is an amalgam of Tony Robbins and Jack Van Impe. "You have the power to change your world, but it won't matter because it will cease to exist within five years."
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either way, I think that trying to censor the message of either because of a lunatic who acts as a reaction to something said on a cable talkshow is wrong and scary.
No one is disagreeing with your fundamental points, and no one has suggested anything about censoring anybody's message. You are a lone Internet knight, fighting against a fully imaginary left-wing, news-channel-unquestioning FOT dragon.
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either way, I think that trying to censor the message of either because of a lunatic who acts as a reaction to something said on a cable talkshow is wrong and scary.
No one is disagreeing with your fundamental points, and no one has suggested anything about censoring anybody's message. You are a lone Internet knight, fighting against a fully imaginary left-wing, news-channel-unquestioning FOT dragon.
So what was your point in bringing up Tim McVeigh? I assumed you were saying that the type of message that Glenn Beck is pushing is dangerous because it could lead to similar results, but I could be mistaken.
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did I use that semicolon correctly?
Yes.
also, my parents have a cat named Lothar.
Why? I mean, is there any significance to the choice of name?
P.S. Glen Beck is a very bad actor. And he mentioned Brewer, Maine, which is odd (most people reference Bangor--guess he's just a rebel).
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either way, I think that trying to censor the message of either because of a lunatic who acts as a reaction to something said on a cable talkshow is wrong and scary.
No one is disagreeing with your fundamental points, and no one has suggested anything about censoring anybody's message. You are a lone Internet knight, fighting against a fully imaginary left-wing, news-channel-unquestioning FOT dragon.
So what was your point in bringing up Tim McVeigh? I assumed you were saying that the type of message that Glenn Beck is pushing is dangerous because it could lead to similar results, but I could be mistaken.
One can believe that the type of message being pushed is dangerous without being in favor of censoring anything. All sorts of things are dangerous - I'd rather open up legality of some that are now banned than ban things that are now legal.
My point was for people to be aware that there was a rising tide of resentment being fueled by the Glenn Becks of the world, that's all. I think part of America's problems right now stem from the fact that we always want to "do something" about those things we don't like and think aren't fun.
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I think part of America's problems right now stem from the fact that we always want to "do something" about those things we don't like and think aren't fun.
America's biggest problem is that it doesn't want to win. I mean, pinch-hitting Evan Longoria, not rescuing Roy Oswalt--all this is symptomatic of a manager that's trying to avoid hurt feelings by making All Star Game kinds of moves. Meanwhile, the scrappy Asian teams pay attention to the fundamentals, wearing down an American side that just keeps trying to swing for the fences.
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One can believe that the type of message being pushed is dangerous without being in favor of censoring anything. All sorts of things are dangerous - I'd rather open up legality of some that are now banned than ban things that are now legal.
My point was for people to be aware that there was a rising tide of resentment being fueled by the Glenn Becks of the world, that's all. I think part of America's problems right now stem from the fact that we always want to "do something" about those things we don't like and think aren't fun.
I don't know what we're arguing about. I think we're kind of thinking the same way, but just coming at it from different directions.
Also, I wish the current crop of legislators would slow down for a second and breathe. Way too much knee-jerk reaction, which opens us up to bad decisions that are then used to further the us vs. them political agendas
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I don't know what we're arguing about. I think we're kind of thinking the same way, but just coming at it from different directions.
Also, I wish the current crop of legislators would slow down for a second and breathe. Way too much knee-jerk reaction, which opens us up to bad decisions that are then used to further the us vs. them political agendas
Nothing, really. I just didn't like the rube comment. Finding Glenn Beck's commentary disturbing and believing it might be inflammatory to people who might take action does not make one a rube, and also doesn't mean that one take everything Al Franken says as the absolute Gospel or that left-wingers aren't potentially as dangerous as right-wingers. But that's all I was ever disagreeing with, I think.
I agree wholeheartedly with your second point. Part of the whole founding of this country was that you couldn't a) go back and write laws to address past transgressions and b) declaring that people did something wrong and punishing them without passing laws or having a trial.
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I've always had a certain sense that he was, deep down, the worst of the lot. And I've spent a good amount of time watching and reading stuff by these folks. Mostly to keep me from getting pissed off enough at the Democrats to vote Republican, and to make sure I know what I'm talking about when I say what jerks these people are.
Michael Savage?
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I've always had a certain sense that he was, deep down, the worst of the lot. And I've spent a good amount of time watching and reading stuff by these folks. Mostly to keep me from getting pissed off enough at the Democrats to vote Republican, and to make sure I know what I'm talking about when I say what jerks these people are.
Michael Savage?
Michael Savage is much harder for a reasonably intelligent person not to dismiss out of hand. It's like the difference between a grade-D British cat burglar (Beck) and a Hell's Angel with a 50-assault rap sheet. The first is much more likely to get invited to tea at the rich old lady's house.
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I miss the days of Glenn Beck being a reasonably sane guy who made sense on CNN, but he went off the deep end after about a month on the air and became a partisan hack. He really once was entertaining and not the fear-mongering doomsdayist he's become.
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Say whatever you want about Glenn Beck, his ratings are off the charts. He's been there for two months and he's already the second highest rated program on Fox News Channel. So he will likely continue with the doomsaying for the foreseeable future.
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I heard his Q rating is through the roof.
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Better than Dick Cheney's Q rating.
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Say whatever you want about Glenn Beck, his ratings are off the charts. He's been there for two months and he's already the second highest rated program on Fox News Channel. So he will likely continue with the doomsaying for the foreseeable future.
My local movie theater is always advertising special screenings of his movies. I'm always tempted to go but they're always at weird times like 5pm on a Wed.
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Better than Dick Cheney's Q rating.
Something something something Q Cheney's Dick rating something something something
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mumble mumble less safe mumble mumble torture mumble mumble Gitmo mumble mumble legal
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Today's highlight: Glenn Beck and a dead fish.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_D5x6EvegA[/youtube]
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Today's highlight: Glenn Beck and a dead fish.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_D5x6EvegA[/youtube]
This was on a news channel. A NEWS channel.
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Today's highlight: Glenn Beck and a dead fish.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_D5x6EvegA[/youtube]
Holy moley, his laugh at :05 honestly creeped me out.
He is quite mad, you know. Seriously. This is some serial killer shit.
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I am proud to say that I have concluded...
That Glen Beck is kinda weird.
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Today's highlight: Glenn Beck and a dead fish.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_D5x6EvegA[/youtube]
So we've finally caught up with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCPRqmMsKYI
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At the risk of turning this into a Glenn Beck video dump thread...oh what the heck, anybody up for a game of Jenga?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7no7rlJOZE[/youtube]
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7no7rlJOZE[/youtube]
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Milton Friedman would be proud.
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It's a Sicilian message...
Today's highlight: Glenn Beck and a dead fish.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_D5x6EvegA[/youtube]
Holy moley, his laugh at :05 honestly creeped me out.
He is quite mad, you know. Seriously. This is some serial killer shit.
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It's a Sicilian message...
Seriously. Does this shithead not understand the implication of wrapping a dead fish in a picture of the president?
"This is the dumbest, damn show on air."
No, it really is.
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Seriously. Does this shithead not understand the implication of wrapping a dead fish in a picture of the president?
Oh stop, this is the kinda shit the last administration pulled.
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It's not b/c he mocks the president that I hate him, I hate him b/c he is dragging so many people down into his little terlet of stupidity...
Seriously. Does this shithead not understand the implication of wrapping a dead fish in a picture of the president?
Oh stop, this is the kinda shit the last administration pulled.
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Seriously. Does this shithead not understand the implication of wrapping a dead fish in a picture of the president?
Oh stop, this is the kinda shit the last administration pulled.
Who in the media joked like that about President Bush? I must have missed that YouTube.
As far as the future generations argument goes, Glenn Beck doesn't seem to give a shit about making coastal and tropical areas completely uninhabitable for future generations, so he should understand why his words ring hollow for so many of the people actually, y'know, PART OF that generation.
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Seriously. Does this shithead not understand the implication of wrapping a dead fish in a picture of the president?
Oh stop, this is the kinda shit the last administration pulled.
Hey, if there's any internet message board that takes sending a message with a fish seriously, it's this one.
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It was pretty disrespectful to the dead fish, too. C'mon, don't play with the thing like it's a puppet. Eat it, or bury it in your garden, or leave the thing alone. Chump.
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It was pretty disrespectful to the dead fish, too. C'mon, don't play with the thing like it's a puppet. Eat it, or bury it in your garden, or leave the thing alone. Chump.
Respect must be paid to your meat.
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It was pretty disrespectful to the dead fish, too. C'mon, don't play with the thing like it's a puppet. Eat it, or bury it in your garden, or leave the thing alone. Chump.
Not to mention how humiliating it had to be for the newspaper.
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It was pretty disrespectful to the dead fish, too. C'mon, don't play with the thing like it's a puppet. Eat it, or bury it in your garden, or leave the thing alone. Chump.
Not to mention how humiliating it had to be for the newspaper.
Even the blue gloves committed suicide shortly after filming.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTzCdY6SqDQ
Dude's taking his cues from Doughy Pantload now.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTzCdY6SqDQ
Dude's taking his cues from Doughy Pantload now.
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He didn't actually have Nazi imagery behind him, right? That was added afterwards, right?
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Uh oh.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNNtdgZafFM[/youtube]
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That was pretty spooky.
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That was pretty spooky.
Yeah, the way that guy kept saying nukular for "nuclear" and kerate for "create."
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That was pretty spooky.
Yeah, the way that guy kept saying nukular for "nuclear" and kerate for "create."
Glenn Beck points out that the Book of Revelations seems to sync up with the legend of the 12th Imam, and draws the conclusion that BoR is identifying 12I as the anti-Christ. Pastor Josh ain't going to like this take on the BoR.
Later, Beck describes someone as "full blown nuts". Irony is apparently lost on the man.
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Self-awareness, anyway.
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Colbert's reply. Hahahahaha.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtGGAkd71xQ[/youtube]
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Behold the towering intellect of one Samuel Wurzelbacher. I know this is only tangentially related to Glenn Beck, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVqXIXbfyA4[/youtube]
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I hope everyone is properly admiring the new whiskers.
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People have to remember though, that you being right about him being a total dumbass means nothing to anyone. The harder you pound on him, the more the people who still love him will love him.
Something the right understands better than the left: people's perception of heroes and good guys is based almost entirely on emotion. You'd think that Rush Limbaugh being a scofflaw drug addict would make people resent the fact that he used to advocate horrific prison sentences for scofflaw drug addicts, but most of them only love him more for it.
The best thing to do is to ignore them. Focus on tearing down the people who actually make decisions.
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Buffcoat, everything you said is correct. There's plenty of criticism that should be leveled at actual politicians. But Joe the Plumber is a hack. People may have empathized with him at first, but he's since been exposed as a fraud and an imbecile to boot. And he has brought a lot of the criticism on himself by staying in the news. He's now a public figure and because of that he's open to ridicule when he says something moronic. I don't take him seriously and I suspect most others don't either. I was just having a little fun at his expense. That's all. Ultimately, you're right, we should ignore people like Joe the Plumber. However, Joe the Plumber is difficult to ignore when he keeps spouting off at the mouth.
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Yeah, sorry Reg, I wasn't talking to you specifically. I was just pissed off at something unrelated. I absolutely think it's cool to mock that shithead. I just would avoid actually trying to convince any of his fans that he's a buffoon.
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It's cool. We need to have something to laugh at in these times, right?
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Buffcoat, everything you said is correct. There's plenty of criticism that should be leveled at actual politicians. But Joe the Plumber is a hack. People may have empathized with him at first, but he's since been exposed as a fraud and an imbecile to boot. And he has brought a lot of the criticism on himself by staying in the news. He's now a public figure and because of that he's open to ridicule when he says something moronic. I don't take him seriously and I suspect most others don't either. I was just having a little fun at his expense. That's all. Ultimately, you're right, we should ignore people like Joe the Plumber. However, Joe the Plumber is difficult to ignore when he keeps spouting off at the mouth.
Thus is the power of the internet Troll made manifest.
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You know I never thought of it like that. Joe the Plumber is basically the equivalent of an internet troll. Interesting.
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Wasn't it here that someone posted a link to an article discussing how one of the reasons the Democratic Party has a hard time extending its appeal is that it does not take into account the importance of emotion in people's opinions? I think so. It was a good article.
I don't know how many times in recent weeks, as my sister remains immersed in current events and I've disengaged, I've had to say to her: "It doesn't matter what [whatever enraging, stupid, extremist liar she's ranting about] says: Most people will see through him/her. Those who don't will never not believe in him/her [unless of course s/he transgresses something in whatever code they hold dear--cotton abuse not being one of those transgressions, as the example of Mr. Limbaugh indicates]. So there's no point fretting about them." I then point out that the so-called news she's watching is completely distorted to achieve the maximum entertainment level, so it's equally pointless to take it seriously.
Sometimes this soothes her; sometimes it annoys the fuck out of her.
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Sometimes this soothes her; sometimes it annoys the fuck out of her.
im familiar with this exact situation involving my closest family members. im on my own island over here.
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I came to an epiphany the other day.
Glenn Beck : Fox News hosts :: Seth MacFarlane : TV Comedy writers
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I came to an epiphany the other day.
Glenn Beck : Fox News hosts :: Seth MacFarlane : TV Comedy writers
Intriguing. Explain, please.
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Well, this is based on absolutely nothing but my own gut instinct. So just a theory.
But while only Shepard Smith did it outright, I have trouble imagining most FOX News people (Hannity excluding, natch) getting on board with his whole strategy. Say what you will about conservative journalists (and I do), but they take themselves seriously. And I can't help but think that many of them were pulling for Beck when he first came on, but might be starting to feel like he's using serious histrionics as a gimmick, and worse, doing it really badly. If he keeps finding continued success, I can't help but think many of them might start getting that certain feeling when people start saying how much they like their show and Beck's.
Again, just a guess, but I think there might be something to it if Beck keeps on doing what he's doing. And why wouldn't he? Howard Beale has found his angle.
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Keep an eye on Youtube over the next couple of days for tonight's Newswipe with Charlie Brooker - lots of discussion of the U.S. networks, including Mr. Beck. If I remember, I'll post some vids on here.
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Well, this is based on absolutely nothing but my own gut instinct. So just a theory.
But while only Shepard Smith did it outright, I have trouble imagining most FOX News people (Hannity excluding, natch) getting on board with his whole strategy. Say what you will about conservative journalists (and I do), but they take themselves seriously. And I can't help but think that many of them were pulling for Beck when he first came on, but might be starting to feel like he's using serious histrionics as a gimmick, and worse, doing it really badly. If he keeps finding continued success, I can't help but think many of them might start getting that certain feeling when people start saying how much they like their show and Beck's.
Again, just a guess, but I think there might be something to it if Beck keeps on doing what he's doing. And why wouldn't he? Howard Beale has found his angle.
All of what you said is probably true. However, I can't imagine that anyone who works at Fox News is too unhappy about Beck. Like it or not, he draws viewers. And when he does well, everyone at Fox News does well.
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Well, this is based on absolutely nothing but my own gut instinct. So just a theory.
But while only Shepard Smith did it outright, I have trouble imagining most FOX News people (Hannity excluding, natch) getting on board with his whole strategy. Say what you will about conservative journalists (and I do), but they take themselves seriously. And I can't help but think that many of them were pulling for Beck when he first came on, but might be starting to feel like he's using serious histrionics as a gimmick, and worse, doing it really badly. If he keeps finding continued success, I can't help but think many of them might start getting that certain feeling when people start saying how much they like their show and Beck's.
Again, just a guess, but I think there might be something to it if Beck keeps on doing what he's doing. And why wouldn't he? Howard Beale has found his angle.
All of what you said is probably true. However, I can't imagine that anyone who works at Fox News is too unhappy about Beck. Like it or not, he draws viewers. And when he does well, everyone at Fox News does well.
Shepard Smith was openly mocking him quite a bit one day. I'm sure Chris Wallace doesn't like him, either.
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You're referring to this video, I presume.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9JE5SBm9UU[/youtube]
This is actually really funny. But I'm sure Roger Ailes had a word or two with Shepard Smith afterwards.
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All of what you said is probably true. However, I can't imagine that anyone who works at Fox News is too unhappy about Beck. Like it or not, he draws viewers. And when he does well, everyone at Fox News does well.
And I'm sure the Simpsons writers have to be appreciative that MacFarlane's shows have helped cement their placement on the night. Last year's Simpsons ToH episode got the highest ratings they've had in years (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117995167.html?categoryid=1275&cs=1). Simpsons is higher, obviously, but the entire night got reinvigorated thanks to new Family Guy. Too bad Arrested Development never lasted long enough to see if it would have benefited. But regardless, I think it's the same kind of feeling, a mixture of appreciation, jealousy and disdain.
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Here's what I was talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aEk864YrKw
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Too bad Arrested Development never lasted long enough to see if it would have benefited.
with the cult following and the dvd sales, i continue to be surprised that its never come back on the air. family guy came back and its done no one any good. im hoping the movie will light a fire (if it even sees the light of day).
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Too bad Arrested Development never lasted long enough to see if it would have benefited.
with the cult following and the dvd sales, i continue to be surprised that its never come back on the air. family guy came back and its done no one any good. im hoping the movie will light a fire (if it even sees the light of day).
I'm guessing because cartoon characters don't age and can show up for a gig as long there's a pencil nearby.
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Arrested Development will never be coming back to tv. You couldn't assemble that cast again.
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Arrested Development will never be coming back to tv. You couldn't assemble that cast again.
two or three years ago, i think you could. now, not a chance. but for a movie, i believe you could get everyone on board for that.
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Arrested Development will never be coming back to tv. You couldn't assemble that cast again.
Quite true. That's why they'll have to assemble a new one.
Michael: Shephard Smith
GOB: Sean Hannity
Lindsey: that morning show blonde
Buster: Neil Cavuto
Tobias: Glenn Beck
Lucille: Greta Van Sustern
George Bluth: Bill O'Reilly
George Michael: Steve Doocy
Maebe: pretty sure they can get that actress back
Narrator: Brit Hume
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We need to find a role for Chris Wallace.
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Arrested Development will never be coming back to tv. You couldn't assemble that cast again.
Quite true. That's why they'll have to assemble a new one.
Michael: Shephard Smith
GOB: Sean Hannity
Lindsey: that morning show blonde
Buster: Neil Cavuto
Tobias: Glenn Beck
Lucille: Greta Van Sustern
George Bluth: Bill O'Reilly
George Michael: Steve Doocy
Maebe: pretty sure they can get that actress back
Narrator: Brit Hume
Annyong: Geraldo Rivera
Steve Holt: Mike Huckabee
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Geraldo can fill the Henry Winkler role.
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We need to find a role for Chris Wallace.
Lucille II
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Steve Holt: Mike Huckabee
*raises arms in the air* Huckabee!!
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Steve Holt: Mike Huckabee
*raises arms in the air* Huckabee!!
I don't know if that is a good fit for Huckabee. I was thinking the guy from Fox & Friends who isn't Doocey would be a good Steve Holt.
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Brian Kilmeade?
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Brian Kilmeade?
Yeah
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/236343/0_62_320_Brian_Kilmeade_new.jpg)
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBXC8pQBBfU[/youtube]
Umm, what the hell? Set us on fire? Speak for yourself, Glenn.
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Bill has girl's hair. I thought he was a woman until they did the close up when Glenn was dripping liquid all over him.
Way to get with the subtext, Glenners.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwXwtAZCan0
As his site says, Laugh or Die.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwXwtAZCan0
As his site says, Laugh or Die.
I'll take Death, please.
This is straight out of a Tim and Eric sketch.
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I'll take Death, please.
This is straight out of a Tim and Eric sketch.
Ain't that the truth.
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You're referring to this video, I presume.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9JE5SBm9UU[/youtube]
This is actually really funny. But I'm sure Roger Ailes had a word or two with Shepard Smith afterwards.
This just shows that Fox is now relying demanding similar antics from the hosts of other shows, doing extended "skit" ads, whoring the Glenn Beck show all day long...
BLLöööö.
It's like a bad infection, that Fox.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBXC8pQBBfU[/youtube]
Umm, what the hell? Set us on fire? Speak for yourself, Glenn.
This is the most horrifying thing I have seen in a long time.
The humanity!
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You're referring to this video, I presume.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9JE5SBm9UU[/youtube]
This is actually really funny. But I'm sure Roger Ailes had a word or two with Shepard Smith afterwards.
This just shows that Fox is now relying demanding similar antics from the hosts of other shows, doing extended "skit" ads, whoring the Glenn Beck show all day long...
BLLöööö.
It's like a bad infection, that Fox.
Awesome Tommy Lee Jones impression at 1:46!
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Nice catch, Matt!
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Does anyone ever read the Hannity forums?
It's like peering inside some sort of sick cult.
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A.M. Thomas, you're a great American.
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Does anyone ever read the Hannity forums?
It's like peering inside some sort of sick cult.
No, but I did catch the end of his tea party coverage last night. He was talking to some radio team from Alabama, "Rick and Bubba" (http://www.rickandbubba.com/) (yes, one of them was wearing a sleeveless shirt, why?). Also, "country superstar" John Rich (I assume of Big & Rich fame?) is apparently one of our greatest national treasures and the official musician of FoxNews.
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ThinkProgress's "100 Days of Opposition"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhAanlsKR6I
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AxWOrSwYhQ[/youtube]
Nuge! This is the real "official musician" of Fox News. I was disappointed that he didn't play Wango Tango, though.
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Nuge! This is the real "official musician" of Fox News. I was disappointed that he didn't play Wango Tango, though.
Maserati, Maserati, Maserati, Maserati...
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FEVz5BGyO4[/youtube]
Quality video.
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I saw that video in the early days of MTV. It has haunted me ever since.
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Speaking of Ted Nugent...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewY3hlRV2Ew[/youtube]
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"Get off my phone!" (3:17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGeZQrpZbjI
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"Get off my phone!" (3:17)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGeZQrpZbjI
If he says 'heave ho', we need to have somebody have a talk with him.
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The thing that is frightening about pundits like Beck and his ilk is that there are people that take him seriously. It is possible to disagree with someone politically without resorting to histrionics and fear mongering. Apparently this is what people want though. His ratings are huge.
If you can tolerate Gideon Yago for any amount of time he hosts a show on IFC called The IFC Media Project that deals with these issues very specifically. They do test groups and compair people watching regular news vs pundit news (I think it was O'Reilly in the one on this subject) and how whether they agree or not people prefer it because it invokes emotion rather than logic. There was also a peice about how unimportant news gets brought to the forefront due to the 24 hour news cycle and how once CNN started to compete for ratings all other news followed suit and therefore became entertainment rather than a public service. I also recently saw an interview with Keith Oberman where he said that Sean Hannity came up to him at an event said something to the effect of 'I can't beleive that people actual think we believe everything we say.' Oberman then of course stated that he did but the whole pundit thing is shady and purely based on opinion. I kind of feel like Glenn Beck may have actually convinced himself that what he says is true whereas I feel like most of them know that they are entertainers. It's like he's telling a joke but he doesn't know it's a joke he just knows that people are listening to him.
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