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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: wood and iron on June 05, 2009, 11:03:36 PM
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This is extremely late, but Patton is going to be on Conan O'Brien tonight.
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The last time I saw him on Conan, which was like 2004, he basically just did his entire comedy routine in conversation. I love Patton, but I always get upset when my favorite comedians do that on talk shows.
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The last time I saw him on Conan, which was like 2004, he basically just did his entire comedy routine in conversation. I love Patton, but I always get upset when my favorite comedians do that on talk shows.
I see your point, but at the same time talk show banter is always essentially prepared material anyways. And if a guy is going to go on national television in front of millions of people (a good portion of which, in Patton's case, are likely not familiar with his material) you might as well do some stuff you know gets a good reaction.
Man, I'm really becoming the defender of celebrities today. I'll dish some dirt later just to even things out.
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Hey Pidgeon, if you want to hear Patton in a more spontaneous mode, he makes frequent appearances on a show called THE BEST SHOW ON WFMU WITH TOM SCHARPLING.
(Also, he's known to occasionally visit podtrash of various stripes).
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Sometimes when I post on this forum, I actually forget what the fandom is.
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The last time I saw him on Conan, which was like 2004, he basically just did his entire comedy routine in conversation. I love Patton, but I always get upset when my favorite comedians do that on talk shows.
Yea I know what you mean. I saw him in a club once, then two weeks later saw him again... and he told most of the same jokes. Ever since that Big Fan money came pouring in, he's just gotten lazy. FUCK YOU, PATTON!
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Sometimes when I post on this forum, I actually forget what the fandom is.
Dear Pidgeon,
Sincerely, do you want to be a jerk, or are you just incapable of stopping?
Your pal,
dfk
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Aw c'mon, give him a break! He's just a teen or in his very early twenties! (I'm assuming---?)
I think almost all comedians use pre-written material on talk shows, and most or all of the celebrities have most or all of their conversation plotted out beforehand. Or if they don't it might come off an incoherent piece of crap like Ryan Seaquest's stabs at mocking Simon Cowl before Patton came on. In his defense I saw Patton do a 90% improvised election night set this year that absolutely killed, but that was a pretty small event. I think for comedians, being on The Tonight Show is like doing a presentation at an Executive Board Meeting with a couple million people watching you. You want to get invited back and you want to have your best, most time-tested material that appeals to the broadest possible audience. You save the off-the-cuff stuff for bars and the UCB Jr. or whatever.
Honest Q: Was that "applauding my balls" thing new?
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Friday night was my first chance to catch the new Tonight Show with Conan - and I liked it. Would it be correct to assume that Andy is back in an Ed McMahon-type role, only not hanging out on the couch next to Conan? Or was this just a special return for the initial week of the new show?
(If anything happened after Patton left, I missed it. I opted for bed rather than experience the Chickenfoot.)
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I always find it interesting as to when, in a comedian's career, they get to just chill on the couch. I'd like to do (or better yet, see) a graph of careers that would show when the comic started, first time performing on the tonight show, 2nd time, 3rd time, 1st time on couch etc. Who makes these decisions?
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Sometimes when I post on this forum, I actually forget what the fandom is.
Dear Pidgeon,
Sincerely, do you want to be a jerk, or are you just incapable of stopping?
Your pal,
dfk
...huh? Did you quote the wrong post? How is that jerk-y?
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Sometimes when I post on this forum, I actually forget what the fandom is.
Dear Pidgeon,
Sincerely, do you want to be a jerk, or are you just incapable of stopping?
Your pal,
dfk
...huh? Did you quote the wrong post? How is that jerk-y?
Because you're suggesting that we're all just Patton Oswalt fanboys and not actually making reasonable arguments. That could be construed as kind of insulting.
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No no no! That's not what I meant at all!
I was joking around that sometimes I visit this forum forgetting that it's FOT-related. It was a self-deprecating comment to make me look like a dunce.
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considering that Feelin' Kinda Patton came out only 5 years ago, patton has moved leaps and bounds in such a short period of time. in fact, most of the "alternative" comedians have.
but ill save that for another discussion, away from the board.
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I am filled with nothing but love for Patton.
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It's a testament to Patton's (and Conan's) quality that I sat through Ryan Seacrest and Chickenfoot to not miss a moment.
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I convinced my wife for a solid 30 seconds that will ferrell was playing drums for chickenfoot.
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I convinced my wife for a solid 30 seconds that will ferrell was playing drums for chickenfoot.
He also had bright red hair that looked like conan's ... was that on purpose?
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I convinced my wife for a solid 30 seconds that will ferrell was playing drums for chickenfoot.
He also had bright red hair that looked like conan's ... was that on purpose?
I think he was wearing one of the wigs that the little kids were wearing in the bit at the beginning of the show.
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No no no! That's not what I meant at all!
I was joking around that sometimes I visit this forum forgetting that it's FOT-related. It was a self-deprecating comment to make me look like a dunce.
Don't worry Pidgeon, I got what you were saying, because I do this all the time too. I actually almost posted here once that PFT was going to be on an upcoming show - FACE. PALM.
I think some of these Patton fanboys owe you an apology though, AHEM! ;D
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I think almost all comedians use pre-written material on talk shows, and most or all of the celebrities have most or all of their conversation plotted out beforehand. Or if they don't it might come off an incoherent piece of crap like Ryan Seaquest's stabs at mocking Simon Cowl before Patton came on.
Seacrest's interview struck me as being very odd. It sounded like Conan would ask him a question to set him up for a story and then Ryan answered him with the wrong stories.
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I think almost all comedians use pre-written material on talk shows, and most or all of the celebrities have most or all of their conversation plotted out beforehand. Or if they don't it might come off an incoherent piece of crap like Ryan Seaquest's stabs at mocking Simon Cowl before Patton came on.
Seacrest's interview struck me as being very odd. It sounded like Conan would ask him a question to set him up for a story and then Ryan answered him with the wrong stories.
My sense was that the idea was that ryan was going to rib simon, but it seemed like conan was setting him up, assuming he had something good, but then ryan was trying to improv the ribbings or something and conan seemed (to me) genuinely annoyed. I think conan said something like "You've managed to alienate everyone in the world" after seacrest made some angela lansbury(berry?) crack, which, maybe I'm projecting, but I took to be kind of half-sincere, as in "You are an asshole".
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I think almost all comedians use pre-written material on talk shows, and most or all of the celebrities have most or all of their conversation plotted out beforehand. Or if they don't it might come off an incoherent piece of crap like Ryan Seaquest's stabs at mocking Simon Cowl before Patton came on.
Seacrest's interview struck me as being very odd. It sounded like Conan would ask him a question to set him up for a story and then Ryan answered him with the wrong stories.
My sense was that the idea was that ryan was going to rib simon, but it seemed like conan was setting him up, assuming he had something good, but then ryan was trying to improv the ribbings or something and conan seemed (to me) genuinely annoyed. I think conan said something like "You've managed to alienate everyone in the world" after seacrest made some angela lansbury(berry?) crack, which, maybe I'm projecting, but I took to be kind of half-sincere, as in "You are an asshole".
you probably are projecting.
Personally (now, this is coming from the guy who found the Kevin Smith interview on the Mike Show endearing) I felt for Seacrest when he 1)talked about being a fat kid and the obvious pain behind that and 2)faced the music on the whole blind high five thing (which I think he handled as well as anyone possibly could have).
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I'll give him the high five thing, but I couldn't help thinking of Paul F. Tompkins' bit about how people like it when beautiful hollywood actresses were tomboys as kids, but no one is on board with handsome hollywood men that were sissies.
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in case you haven't gathered, i'm a very soft touch.
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I'll give him the high five thing, but I couldn't help thinking of Paul F. Tompkins' bit about how people like it when beautiful hollywood actresses were tomboys as kids, but no one is on board with handsome hollywood men that were sissies.
i see your point on this because that's a PFT bit heightened in hilarity through the "it's funny because it's true" creed. however, i will say, i feel for people who were on the bottom of the social totem pole in their youth and now are at the top of the hollywood go-to guy food chain. you cant help but feel good about that victory.
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I'll give him the high five thing, but I couldn't help thinking of Paul F. Tompkins' bit about how people like it when beautiful hollywood actresses were tomboys as kids, but no one is on board with handsome hollywood men that were sissies.
i see your point on this because that's a PFT bit heightened in hilarity through the "it's funny because it's true" creed. however, i will say, i feel for people who were on the bottom of the social totem pole in their youth and now are at the top of the hollywood go-to guy food chain. you cant help but feel good about that victory.
Yeah, but what if they're a lame douchebag like Ryan Seacrest?
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I'll give him the high five thing, but I couldn't help thinking of Paul F. Tompkins' bit about how people like it when beautiful hollywood actresses were tomboys as kids, but no one is on board with handsome hollywood men that were sissies.
i see your point on this because that's a PFT bit heightened in hilarity through the "it's funny because it's true" creed. however, i will say, i feel for people who were on the bottom of the social totem pole in their youth and now are at the top of the hollywood go-to guy food chain. you cant help but feel good about that victory.
Yeah, but what if they're a lame douchebag like Ryan Seacrest?
i dont have all the answers for you, J.
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Conan's past few shows have got some pretty shitty ratings, I'm worried.
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Does shitty mean "higher than Letterman?" Because they are (though apparently they've been declining since the premiere).
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I don't get what people are worried about. He's been on that network for one thousand years. It's unlikely he'll get dropped. The only person more qualified for the job is Jay Leno. Even if he does get dropped, he'll be fine.
Anyway, I blame it on Andy.
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Does shitty mean "higher than Letterman?" Because they are (though apparently they've been declining since the premiere).
Yeah, I think they're still slightly higher than Letterman's.
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So far Conan's been getting more than Letterman, but by a decreasing margin, and last night was very close. But there's some conspiracy theories floating around about how more people want Conan to fail...
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/nymag/vulture/~3/-DHvtik3KFo/letterman_reups_through_2012.html
I gots to stop linking to Vulture.
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Looks like Sarah Palin wants Letterman to beat Conan too.
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Looks like Sarah Palin wants Letterman to beat Conan too.
Conan should respond by having Norm Macdonald and Neko Case on every night.
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Amazing that this topic already existed. Patton was fantastic on Conan tonight. I'm not always a fan of interviews where the comedian gets on a roll and the host steps back, but he was just on fire.
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i gots family in town; my wife's little brother (who once received a wake-up bodyslam from Thousand Fights). we got tickets to Conan for today, but I had to go to an audition. They got to go but I didn't. We'll be watching together in 50 minutes.
The end.
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Looks like Sarah Palin wants Letterman to beat Conan too.
Conan should respond by having Norm Macdonald and Neko Case on every night.
Jim Gaffigan that night as well. Warming up my VCR already to tape it.
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Watching the Monday show when he and Andy talked about his concussion was a little upsetting. Glad he's ok now.