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Title: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: J. Garbage on June 06, 2009, 05:08:05 PM
...anyone read this thing?  I'm assuming it's part of a novel and that's why it's totally unsatisfying as a story.  I suspect it's some kind of allegory about the downfall of American liberalism or some such?  White liberal nightmares?  Grand Canyon??  I don't know, thought it sucked.  Thanks for your time.
Title: Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: daveB from Oakland on June 06, 2009, 07:01:38 PM
I didn't read it, but I'd like to praise Jonathan Lethem's recent New Yorker story entitled "Ava's Apartment".

http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2009/05/25/090525fi_fiction_lethem?currentPage=all

I read this story a few days after hearing Tom talk about Dogmo ... the Lethem story is a similar tribute to animals that make the world a better place.

Not to get all "Marley and Me" on y'all ... but anyway, it's a good story, you can print it out and read it for free ... I really liked it.

By the way, when did all the Johnathans and Johns become Jonathans and Jons?
Title: Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: buffcoat on June 06, 2009, 07:06:19 PM
I didn't read it, but I'd like to praise Jonathan Lethem's recent New Yorker story entitled "Ava's Apartment".






Wait, you're praising a story you haven't read?  What cheek!
Title: Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: Sarah on June 07, 2009, 06:22:10 AM
By the way, when did all the Johnathans and Johns become Jonathans and Jons?

Though Jons used to be Johns, Jonathans have always been Jonathans.  "Johnathan" is a modern corruption.
Title: Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on June 08, 2009, 01:02:04 PM
The Lethem story is awesome.  I'm actually saving it for Tom, but it's way too soon. 

And now I am about to name-drop a dog: I know the real Ava, who really is a three-legged pit bull. 

As for Franzen, meh.  I dug The Corrections when it came out, and was briefly swept up in the hype surrounding his Harper's article, but it becomes clearer and clearer that he's a pretentious douche, and that his only real agenda is returning to a 1956-65 that only existed in his imagination.
Title: Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: yesno on June 08, 2009, 01:27:08 PM
"Jonathan" and "John" are different names. "Jon" is short for Jonathan. This is The Way. "John" is short for nothing.
Title: Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: J. Garbage on June 08, 2009, 02:22:43 PM
The Lethem story is awesome.  I'm actually saving it for Tom, but it's way too soon. 

And now I am about to name-drop a dog: I know the real Ava, who really is a three-legged pit bull. 

As for Franzen, meh.  I dug The Corrections when it came out, and was briefly swept up in the hype surrounding his Harper's article, but it becomes clearer and clearer that he's a pretentious douche, and that his only real agenda is returning to a 1956-65 that only existed in his imagination.

Yeah, I like The Corrections, but have you read How To Be Alone?  Eww boy.  I'll tell you how to be alone: adopt the personality of the man who wrote this book.
Title: Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: Chris L on June 08, 2009, 03:10:42 PM
Looks like you guys are having a Jonathon!  :D

(This post is also an example of how to be alone)
Title: Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: daveB from Oakland on June 08, 2009, 03:55:46 PM
The Lethem story is awesome.  I'm actually saving it for Tom, but it's way too soon. 

And now I am about to name-drop a dog: I know the real Ava, who really is a three-legged pit bull. 



Cool! So, that story also featured an "abandoned" but somewhat well-appointed apartment building that got turned into a defacto animal shelter/residence ... does that have any corollary in NYC reality? I know Beverly Hills has those ridiculous swanky dog hotels, but the concept of "Ava's apartment" was a little different from that ...
Title: Re: Jonathan Franzen's new short story in The New Yorker
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on June 08, 2009, 06:31:29 PM
The Lethem story is awesome.  I'm actually saving it for Tom, but it's way too soon. 

And now I am about to name-drop a dog: I know the real Ava, who really is a three-legged pit bull. 



Cool! So, that story also featured an "abandoned" but somewhat well-appointed apartment building that got turned into a defacto animal shelter/residence ... does that have any corollary in NYC reality? I know Beverly Hills has those ridiculous swanky dog hotels, but the concept of "Ava's apartment" was a little different from that ...

The real dog is owned by a bookseller in NY, who has a home, and who used to own a shop that Lethem worked in -- though I'd imagine that the idea for the story had to have come from somewhere.