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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: Chad from Oregon on July 30, 2009, 07:12:45 PM
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In light of Tom's recent distress over the Neil Young box. I would love to see this topic revisited. Out of all of the great reasons for their vote, my favorite had to have been for Young simply "because he hung around with the other three".
(I was going add that CSN were set to play a few blocks from me, but it must have already happened - in checking to confirm, I noticed that Psychopathic Records family member Tech N9ne will be at the same venue in October.)
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Ranked by order of preference:
1. Neil Young
2. David Crosby
3. Graham Nash
4. Stephen Stills
I think Neil Young wins because he has the best overall body of work. Crosby would be second for his work with The Byrds and for the underrated gem, "If I Could Only Remember My Name." The final two are interchangeable.
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For the record, Tech N9ne is not a Psychopathic Records family member. He's one of the guys that falls under the category of "just collecting a paycheck and eventually realizing it may not have been worth it".
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In light of Tom's recent distress over the Neil Young box. I would love to see this topic revisited. Out of all of the great reasons for their vote, my favorite had to have been for Young simply "because he hung around with the other three".
I thought that was the funniest thing ever.
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I am falling hard for Graham Nash's Songs For Beginners album. Crosby is firmly in third place and Stills is crawling around on the floor looking for some wayward coke.
The ranking of CSNY reminds me of a really great game where you try to determine the smartest member, the dumbest member, and the toughest member of bands.
Velvet Underground:
Smartest-John Cale
Dumbest-Doug Yule
Toughest-Maureen Tucker
Ramones:
Smartest-Joey
Dumbest-Johnny
Toughest-Dee Dee
Red Hot Chili Peppers:
Smartest-John Frusciante
Dumbest-Chat Smith
Toughest-Flea
Keep in mind that the Beatles are nearly impossible to rank.
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I am falling hard for Graham Nash's Songs For Beginners album. Crosby is firmly in third place and Stills is crawling around on the floor looking for some wayward coke.
The ranking of CSNY reminds me of a really great game where you try to determine the smartest member, the dumbest member, and the toughest member of bands.
Velvet Underground:
Smartest-John Cale
Dumbest-Doug Yule
Toughest-Maureen Tucker
Ramones:
Smartest-Joey
Dumbest-Johnny
Toughest-Dee Dee
Red Hot Chili Peppers:
Smartest-John Frusciante
Dumbest-Chat Smith
Toughest-Flea
Keep in mind that the Beatles are nearly impossible to rank.
Chickenfoot:
Smartest-
Dumbest-Chad Smith
Toughest-
This is going to be harder than I thought. :-\
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I am falling hard for Graham Nash's Songs For Beginners album. Crosby is firmly in third place and Stills is crawling around on the floor looking for some wayward coke.
The ranking of CSNY reminds me of a really great game where you try to determine the smartest member, the dumbest member, and the toughest member of bands.
Velvet Underground:
Smartest-John Cale
Dumbest-Doug Yule
Toughest-Maureen Tucker
Ramones:
Smartest-Joey
Dumbest-Johnny
Toughest-Dee Dee
Red Hot Chili Peppers:
Smartest-John Frusciante
Dumbest-Chat Smith
Toughest-Flea
Keep in mind that the Beatles are nearly impossible to rank.
Chickenfoot:
Smartest-
Dumbest-Chad Smith
Toughest-
This is going to be harder than I thought. :-\
Modest Mouse:
Smartest-Isaac Brock
Dumbest-Isaac Brock
Toughest-Isaac Brock
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Modest Mouse:
Smartest-Isaac Brock
Dumbest-Isaac Brock
Toughest-Isaac Brock
You could do something very similar with AC/DC, though I don't know which band member would get all three awards. Bon Scott, I guess.
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I'm a total sucker for anything NY related (like millions and millions before me), and I picked up Guitar magazine yesterday. NY's on the cover, so it's genetically encoded that I have to buy it.
This interview is unreal. The ENTIRE TIME he blabs on and on about the beauty of Blu-Ray technology, about how we can REALLY hear the interplay between he and Danny Whitten, now, for the first time, because of this amazing Blu-Ray player. It is one long advertisement.
Sickening. He's now giving Stephen Stills a run for his douchebag money.
Ike
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KISS - original lineup only
Smartest - Ugh. One would have to say Gene Simmons.
Dumbest - Sorry, Peter. And congratulations, Ace - avoiding this is a real triumph for you.
Toughest - Whoever has survived more car crashes between Ace and Peter.
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Red Hot Chili Peppers:
Smartest-John Frusciante
Dumbest-Chat Smith
Really? I've heard John Frusciante talk - ever seen the video collection put out by Mark Romanek? Frusciante I guess was belly aching about something and got into a tiff w/Romanek, and he could barely form a sentence. He then later relented and wrote him a note praising the video. It looked like it was written by an 8 year old.
If John's the smartest and Chad's the dumbest then that band is more terrible than I thought. Then again, I hate RHCP with the intensity of a thousand suns. So that's already pretty bad.
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Radiohead:
Smartest: Jonny Greenwood (upset)
Dumbest: Ed O'Brien
Toughest: Thom Yorke
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KISS - original lineup only
Smartest - Ugh. One would have to say Gene Simmons.
Dumbest - Sorry, Peter. And congratulations, Ace - avoiding this is a real triumph for you.
Toughest - Whoever has survived more car crashes between Ace and Peter.
This is such a tough one. The Peter and Ace showdown in "dumbest" is truly epic. I think I tend to go:
S-Paul
D-Peter
T-Ace
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R.E.M.
Smartest-Peter Buck
Dumbest-Mike Mills
Toughest-Bill Berry
The Who
Smartest-Pete Townsend
Dumbest-Keith Moon
Toughest-The Ox
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I just hit shuffle songs on my iPod and pressed next until i came to a band that I could remember all of the names of, as luck would have it I found The Band and spent more time than I care to admit figuring this out.
The Band:
Smartest-Robbie Robertson
Dumbest-Rick Danko
Toughest-Garth Hudson
If we could vote for weakest it would be Levon Helm.
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I just hit shuffle songs on my iPod and pressed next until i came to a band that I could remember all of the names of, as luck would have it I found The Band and spent more time than I care to admit figuring this out.
The Band:
Smartest-Robbie Robertson
Dumbest-Rick Danko
Toughest-Garth Hudson
If we could vote for weakest it would be Levon Helm.
I'd say:
Smartest - Garth Hudson
Dumbest - Rick Danko (Richard Manuel is a close second)
Toughest - Levon Helm
Talking Heads:
Smartest - David Byrne
Dumbest - Chris Frantz
Toughest - Tina Weymouth
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Insane Clown Posse
Smartest:
Dumbest: Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J
Toughest:
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Public Enemy: The Perfect Triumvirate.
Smartest - Chuck D
Dumbest - Flavor Flav
Toughest - Terminator X
Genesis 1971-1975:
Smartest - Tie between Peter Gabriel and Tony Banks
Dumbest - Mike Rutherford
Toughest - N/A
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Wow, I'd pay to see Flavor Flav and Professor Griff in a dumb-off. Flav is more aggressively stupid, but Griff seems to actually be dumber.
Genesis, yes, has never had a tough member. Who are the tough ones in Yes and Rush?
Pink Floyd
Smartest - Nick Mason (problems? what problems?)
Dumbest - Rick Wright, RIP
Toughest - David Gilmour (Roger the Hat if you count roadies)
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Lifeson is the toughest member of Rush. He and his family allegedly got into some kind of brawl with a bunch of cops on New Years Eve a few years ago. This was pretty much the only interesting, non-SCTV related thing anyone in Rush has ever done. I remember reading something about him spitting blood at a police officer and hoping he'd change his name to Alex Deathson.
No way Levon Helm is the weakest member of The Band. His Spanish Conquistador facial hair alone is enough to convince me that he would be able to choke the life out of Robbie Robertson with Robbie's dumb scarf if he had to.
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Wings:
Smartest-Paul McCartney
Dumbest-Joe English
Toughest-Denny Seiwell
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Insane Clown Posse
Smartest:
Dumbest: Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J
Toughest:
It's a shame that "Dopest" isn't part of this game. Shaggy would have had that wrapped up. Violent Joe never had a chance.
...I guess.
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I'm going far out on a limb and predicting that except for Wings the sole female member of every band listed here will be named the toughest member.
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Lifeson is the toughest member of Rush. He and his family allegedly got into some kind of brawl with a bunch of cops on New Years Eve a few years ago. This was pretty much the only interesting, non-SCTV related thing anyone in Rush has ever done. I remember reading something about him spitting blood at a police officer and hoping he'd change his name to Alex Deathson.
No way Levon Helm is the weakest member of The Band. His Spanish Conquistador facial hair alone is enough to convince me that he would be able to choke the life out of Robbie Robertson with Robbie's dumb scarf if he had to.
Is this picture from the Lifeson arrest? http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/photos/celebrities/alexlifesonarrested/ It looks to be staged but I hope it isn't.
Also, if we rate The Band in toughness based on facial hair Richard Manuel has to be in the conversation.
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I'm going far out on a limb and predicting that except for Wings the sole female member of every band listed here will be named the toughest member.
Actually the sole female member of every band is the bass player. Everyone knows that.
But if you want to do lady bands, it would probably look like this:
The Runaways
Toughest: Joan Jett
Toughest: Lita Ford
Toughest: Jackie Fox
Toughest: Cherie Currie
Toughest: Sandy West
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Lifeson is the toughest member of Rush. He and his family allegedly got into some kind of brawl with a bunch of cops on New Years Eve a few years ago. This was pretty much the only interesting, non-SCTV related thing anyone in Rush has ever done. I remember reading something about him spitting blood at a police officer and hoping he'd change his name to Alex Deathson.
No way Levon Helm is the weakest member of The Band. His Spanish Conquistador facial hair alone is enough to convince me that he would be able to choke the life out of Robbie Robertson with Robbie's dumb scarf if he had to.
Wasn't that in Florida?
Just Wondering Wesley.
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Wow, I'd pay to see Flavor Flav and Professor Griff in a dumb-off. Flav is more aggressively stupid, but Griff seems to actually be dumber.
I didn't include Griff or the S1W's because they're nothing but stage props. Anti-semitic stage props.
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I'm going far out on a limb and predicting that except for Wings the sole female member of every band listed here will be named the toughest member.
Actually the sole female member of every band is the bass player. Everyone knows that.
But if you want to do lady bands, it would probably look like this:
The Runaways
Toughest: Joan Jett
Toughest: Lita Ford
Toughest: Jackie Fox
Toughest: Cherie Currie
Toughest: Sandy West
What, just because they're women they can't be smart? That is SO sexist!
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Insane Clown Posse
Smartest:
Dumbest: Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J
Toughest:
It's a shame that "Dopest" "Freshest" isn't part of this game. Shaggy would have had that wrapped up. Violent Joe never had a chance.
...I guess.
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Is there any truth to the insane rumors that Count Violence is not the toughest member of Ted Leo & the Pharmacists?
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The Beach Boys are pretty easy:
Smartest: Brian Wilson
Dumbest: Mike Love
Toughest: Dennis Wilson
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Led Zeppelin:
Smartest - John Paul Jones
Dumbest - Robert Plant
Toughest - John Bonham
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The Beach Boys are pretty easy:
Smartest: Brian Wilson
Dumbest: Mike Love
Toughest: Dennis Wilson
I think you're confusing niceness with intelligence here. Mike Love is smarter than Brian. He played for the end game and now holds control of the Beach Boys intellectual property. Meanwhile, Brian is trying to make an album about those chicks on Pleasure Island.
I'd go:
Smartest: Stamos
Dumbest: Dennis Wilson
Toughest: Glen Campbell
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Another untested theory: The dj of every hip hop act except Salt N Pepa is the toughest.
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Another untested theory: The dj of every hip hop act except Salt N Pepa is the toughest.
Well, on Fresh Prince of Bel Air, DJ Jazzy Jeff lived in the ghetto while Will lived the cushy life at Uncle Phil's so you may be right.
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Another untested theory: The dj of every hip hop act except Salt N Pepa is the toughest.
Well, on Fresh Prince of Bel Air, DJ Jazzy Jeff lived in the ghetto while Will lived the cushy life at Uncle Phil's so you may be right.
That would mean that DJ Muggs is tougher than Sen Dog.
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If I recall correctly, Sen Dog does the chicken dance in the video for "How I Could Just Kill a Man" - dunno if that makes him tougher or not.
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If I recall correctly, Sen Dog does the chicken dance in the video for "How I Could Just Kill a Man" - dunno if that makes him tougher or not.
Or not.
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I think you're confusing niceness with intelligence here. Mike Love is smarter than Brian. He played for the end game and now holds control of the Beach Boys intellectual property. Meanwhile, Brian is trying to make an album about those chicks on Pleasure Island.
I'd go:
Smartest: Stamos
Dumbest: Dennis Wilson
Toughest: Glen Campbell
Touche...although if we're going to the Stamos level, Charlie Manson may qualify for a category - not sure which though.
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Blue Man Group
Smartest-Blue Man
Dumbest-Blue Man
Toughest-Blue Man
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Blue Man Group
Smartest-Blue Man
Dumbest-Blue Man
Toughest-Blue Man
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The Clash:
Smartest: Joe Strummer
Dumbest: Terry Chimes (Topper Headon probably pretty close)
Toughest: Paul Simenon
And well, getting back on topic, CSNY:
Smartest: None of the above
Dumbest: Stephen Stills (Seriously, if Cros had three good years, Stills had, like, two good songs.) (And Nash is actually a pretty talented photographer.)
Toughest: Neil, but you knew that.
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Another untested theory: The dj of every hip hop act except Salt N Pepa is the toughest.
Definitely not true. I've met plenty "DJs" and quite a few of them are the biggest cry-babies. NOT ALL. But quite a few.
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Another untested theory: The dj of every hip hop act except Salt N Pepa is the toughest.
Definitely not true. I've met plenty "DJs" and quite a few of them are the biggest cry-babies. NOT ALL. But quite a few.
One major counterexample to back that up: TIM DOG. It's impossible for any DJ who backs up TIM DOG to be actually tougher than TIM DOG.