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Title: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: fletcher munson on September 13, 2009, 09:41:30 PM
http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=9245_Jim_Carroll_Dead_at_59

That "people who died" song is really good.  Also, liked reading The Basketball Diaries as a teen.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: courtney on September 13, 2009, 11:49:57 PM
I just heard this news as well. It's quite upsetting to me. I've been a fan of his poetry and music for a loooooooooong time, mid-teens I think (pre-Basketball Diaries movie, I add to sound cooler). I was just listening to the song "Lorraine" about an hour before I heard the news. Weird.     :'(

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTP7cPvpgiA[/youtube]
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: HaroldBlvd on September 14, 2009, 12:46:58 AM
I shot this at Coney Island High in 1998. Jim was a guest of Lenny Kaye whose birthday was being celebrated that night.
Back in the day, I would always see Jim Carroll show up at Johnny Thunders gigs and Johnny would show up at Jims gigs as well.
Great songwriter and author, Jim will be missed.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iBWU6Y3PmU[/youtube]
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: Pastor Josh on September 14, 2009, 12:53:05 AM
Completely unfamiliar with any of his work not related to The Basketball Diaries, but that was a lot of awesome for a kid from Arkansas.  He had a lot to do with shaping my aesthetic, even if it was in ways I later had to resist.  Thank you, sir, and I hope you are at rest.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: hugman on September 14, 2009, 01:08:09 AM
saw JC do a reading at McCabes Guitar Shop wherein he read from an alleged letter that he found in a recording studio from Tupac to a German fan who had sent him nude photographs. The only line I recall was "I defended your titties!"
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: Big Plastic Head on September 14, 2009, 02:15:08 AM
BB Diaries was great. Unlike the horrible movie. I liked the Book of Nods too and I know I have a copy of Praying Mantis in the attic which I bought not knowing that it was spoken word but still loved it. Sad to see him go.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: courtney on September 14, 2009, 02:21:53 AM
I think I actually like The Downtown Diaries more than The Basketball Diaries.

I may be alone in this, though.


Man, strange - I think iTunes knew something was up -  this song just came on shuffle:

Work Not Play

The bell rings . . .
It's a decade past my decadence
My beast wears rings and he's waiting
In the shadows of my hesitations, my silent
Hesitations . . . Each image is so clear;
It seems I have no hands
The gestures of the air confuse all my demands

And the beast hears the bell; he comes
Out of the shadows. He rips apart the shadows . . .
And he says:

This is work and not play

And he says:
There's always more than one way . . .
This is work not play

I see the ghosts of my childhood . . .
Dressed in blue, they trail me in the night
They drive these cars with real upholstery
They trail me until . . . here comes the night

She was standing, standing on the balcony
Her black, black eyes folded over her eyelids
Like sheets on motel beds . . .
She must be eatin' reds
This place is filled with mirrors
It echoes what she said

And she said:
I need a judgement day

And she said:
I know there's more than one way,
But I want my judgment day . . .

To sleep without dreams
So distant from the mirror
Imitating clarity, disguising
All the terror . . . I heard a thousand bells
From a thousand old cathedrals
They rang . . . I haven't heard them since
A decade past my decadence
The beast hears the bell
He comes out of the shadows

I'm cursed to be a singer
A singer of the flames
A thinker of a fire
And a son without a name

Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: akaJudge on September 14, 2009, 11:01:10 AM
Loved Basketball Diaries, and really love Praying Mantis.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on September 14, 2009, 02:25:36 PM
as a teenager i remember reading Basketball Diaries and being petrified and intrigued with the culture that comes with living outside of the suburbs.  i was fourteen.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: buffcoat on September 14, 2009, 04:25:58 PM
as a teenager i remember reading Basketball Diaries and being petrified and intrigued with the culture that comes with living outside of the suburbs.  i was fourteen.


I felt this way about Superfudge.












Wait.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: NJL on September 14, 2009, 08:42:21 PM
I'll remember you Jim Carroll, if just as the man talking over "Live at Max's Kansas City."
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: fonpr on September 14, 2009, 09:54:19 PM
I'll remember you Jim Carroll, if just as the man talking over "Live at Max's Kansas City."

Pernod
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: nec13 on September 14, 2009, 09:58:13 PM
I'll remember you Jim Carroll, if just as the man talking over "Live at Max's Kansas City."

You know, I was going to post the same thing. But I was afraid it might be in poor taste.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: fonpr on September 14, 2009, 09:58:52 PM
I'll remember you Jim Carroll, if just as the man talking over "Live at Max's Kansas City."

You know, I was going to post the same thing. But I was afraid it might be in poor taste.

Never had it.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Jim Carroll
Post by: Christina on September 14, 2009, 10:59:06 PM
Poor bastard.

Sounds like a lot of us read Basketball Diaries & loved it - it's weird that a book such as this became something of a Catcher in the Rye for kids born roughly around the same time as all of us, given the depiction of a rough urban existence for such a tender young thing.