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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: Keith Whitener on September 19, 2009, 08:41:20 PM
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I propose that this be the thread for all things Mike. And no Mike Thread would be complete without a Mike Q and A. The first question is the most obvious one: Mike, would you be up for participating in this sort of thread, in which the FOT pose various questions to you and things for your evaluation. For example, someone might ask, “What do you think of The Holy Bible by The Manic Street Preachers?” I think it could be fun! If not, please delete thread and lock FOT Board.
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Haven't heard The Holy Bible. The only MSP I have is Everything Must Go which I kind of liked but not enough to go deeper into their catalog. Should I?
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Vilcome to Die Mike Thread.
Two Mets-related questions, Mike:
Worse Mets signing: Oliver Perez or Bobby Bonilla?
What GM/Manager combination would you like to see next year?
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Vilcome to Die Mike Thread.
Two Mets-related questions, Mike:
Worse Mets signing: Oliver Perez or Bobby Bonilla?
What GM/Manager combination would you like to see next year?
I would prefer no sports questions.
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Fredericks, where exactly did it say that sports questions were prohibited?
Also, why does the word "leet" appear where my post count should be?
EDIT: My post count was 1337. 1337=Leet. Haha! Very funny.
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Vilcome to Die Mike Thread.
Two Mets-related questions, Mike:
Worse Mets signing: Oliver Perez or Bobby Bonilla?
What GM/Manager combination would you like to see next year?
Perez signing was worse on paper and has been worse on the field so far.
Anyone but Omar as GM and it's time to bring back Bobby Valentine
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Fredericks, where exactly did it say that sports questions were prohibited?
Also, why does the word "leet" appear where my post count should be?
#1. Terg, See above.
#2. Some are measured in Leet others in inches. If I were you I'd just relax and feel complimented.
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Sorry, Fredericks. I didn't mean to derail the thread.
Please ignore my question, Mike.
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Sorry, Fredericks. I didn't mean to derail the thread.
Please ignore my question, Mike.
Please Ignore Mike.
Amen/
God Bless you.
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I would say Perez because it's more fresh in my mind. I'm not the kind of guy who memorizes and agonizes over every play in a game. In fact, I barely think of a game again after it's over.
Unlike the geniuses on sports radio, I also don't give much thought to who should be GM or manager. I just like to see my team win. I'm simple that way.
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Is this the beginning of a possible FOM forum or would it even be "Friends" of Mike? Something less personal and more creepy like Legion of Mike or Followers of Mike. If so we can still be Friends of Tom right?
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I've already proposed The Sick Clique on Twitter. What do you think?
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Depends on how sick it gets. I'm not building a dungeon in the basement.
I don't know if this has ever been covered before but what did you think of Herzog's roll in The Grand?
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I've already proposed The Sick Clique on Twitter. What do you think?
I love it - the dual meaning of "sick" I think captures so much.
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I haven't seen The Grand. I'll check it out.
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How about the "Pieces Of Flith" as the stand-in for the Friends Of Mike?
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This thread is bad news. Right now it seems fine but mark my words: THIS WILL END BADLY.
Tom.
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I had pizza with a nice gentleman named "Mike" in Jersey City, NJ recently. Speaking of Mikes.
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MIKE MIKE MIKE MIKE Mike Mike Mike MIKE MIKE
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Mike Mike Mike
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MIKE MIKE MIKE MIKE
Mike Mike Mike
I am sick.
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mike mouse pad?
(http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww57/afamilyofturtles/chickenmousepad.jpg)
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The Holy Bible is an ironic album because its made in such a way that it encourages listeners to read its lyrics, but the whole thing is overshadowed by the fact that the lyrics’ author, Richey James Edwards, killed himself shortly after the album’s release. Richey’s name often comes up on lists of rock’s most outrageous moments for the time he answered the question, “Are you for real?” by carving 4 Real into his forearm. He was for real.
Some people are able to stare into the darkness and not be consumed by it. The darkness ate Edwards up. He was an alcoholic, an anorexic, a self-mutilator, and an intellectual. He saw that the things that plagued him were the result of systematic societal ills and its what he made the subject of his songs. The Holy Bible contains tracks about self-mutilation, anorexia, the futility of justice, child prostitution, etc.
I think Edwards saw himself as a Nietzsche-like figure, which wouldn’t be a surprise given that he makes allusions to Foucault in his lyrics. On The Holy Bible, Edwards throws everything into question and he foresees the backlash such an act would merit him. “I am an architect, they call me a butcher/ I am a pioneer, they call me primitive/I am purity, they call me perverted."
If you can imagine Intervention set to rock, but self-aware and highly literate, then you get The Holy Bible.
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Mike,
would you rather be addicted to gambling or huffing cans of duster?
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Gambling is probably more costly, so I'll go with huffing. Who doesn't want to feel like they're walking on sunshine once in a while?
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Gambling is probably more costly, so I'll go with huffing. Who doesn't want to feel like they're walking on sunshine once in a while?
Go with sparkly paint!
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt191/Aunt1eChr1st1na/huffer.jpg)
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Haven't heard The Holy Bible. The only MSP I have is Everything Must Go which I kind of liked but not enough to go deeper into their catalog. Should I?
Yes! One of my top five albums of all time. I think it may well be something Mike would enjoy.
In fitting with the darker and angrier nature of the new songs, the references used throughout the album's songs and artwork were more obscure than in the past, drawing less from the world of pop culture and more from the shady world of serial killers and political dictators. Edwards' interest in philosophy was also more evident on this album, with nihilism ("I know I believe in nothing but it is my nothing") and misanthropy ("All I preach is extinction") being particularly prevalent. A mood of misanthrophy and self-hatred hovers over much of the album, a feeling different from, but not unrelated to, the general feeling of pessimism and despair that had pervaded their previous albums.
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Mike,
As a well-seasoned man of the world, how do you handle the frustration of a work superior trying to keep you down? Thanks.
GB
This thread is bad news. Right now it seems fine but mark my words: THIS WILL END BADLY.
Tom.
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Excellent, an endorsement from Samir! I'll wait for you to listen to it and post your thoughts, Mike, before I add some more of my own.
Are you familiar with the author Noah Cicero? I think he might be right up your alley as well. Imagine Sartre and Marc Maron mashed together in Youngstown, Ohio and you've got Cicero.
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Mike,
As a well-seasoned man of the world, how do you handle the frustration of a work superior trying to keep you down? Thanks.
GB
This thread is bad news. Right now it seems fine but mark my words: THIS WILL END BADLY.
Tom.
I don't know. With all Mike's recent successes, Tom might be right to be feeling a little kinship with Margo Channing these days.
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Mike, I like art that severely depresses. Jimmy Corrigan (or anything that Chris Ware does) and Dogville are among my favorites. What would you recommend in any format? Especially, where should I begin with Mr. Herzog?
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Mike, I like art that severely depresses. Jimmy Corrigan (or anything that Chris Ware does) and Dogville are among my favorites. What would you recommend in any format? Especially, where should I begin with Mr. Herzog?
Herzog's best movies are drunk on both the wonders and horror of life. They're a blast, they're not depressing.
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Gambling is probably more costly, so I'll go with huffing. Who doesn't want to feel like they're walking on sunshine once in a while?
Go with sparkly paint!
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt191/Aunt1eChr1st1na/huffer.jpg)
Sounds like you speak from experience Auntie, AmIRight?
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Mike, I like art that severely depresses. Jimmy Corrigan (or anything that Chris Ware does) and Dogville are among my favorites. What would you recommend in any format? Especially, where should I begin with Mr. Herzog?
Herzog's best movies are drunk on both the wonders and horror of life. They're a blast, they're not depressing.
Seconded, Little Dieter basically trumps any piece o' crap you would find in a self improvement section of a bookstore.
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Got $1,450 burning a hole in your pocket? Sign up Werner Herzog's Rogue Film School!
http://www.roguefilmschool.com (http://www.roguefilmschool.com)
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Got $1,450 burning a hole in your pocket? Sign up Werner Herzog's Rogue Film School!
http://www.roguefilmschool.com (http://www.roguefilmschool.com)
That is amazing. They need to add a section to the FAQ to answer my Q "This is a joke, right?!"
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Mike,
There is a barfly that I am trying to get temporarily banned from my place of work for (among other offenses that include being a loudmouth vagrant, groping waitresses, and ruining my appreciation of Hunky Dory) forcing a weak-willed, enabling bartender to subject staff and unsuspecting customers to his raspy, dog-deafening sing-alongs to over-loud Manic Street Preachers MP3s every fucking Saturday afternoon (bartender: "I can't throw him out... he's a paying customer!" ugh...). I might be able to arrange a Mike Show interview with this guy to get you some back story on the Manics ("TIM!!! THE MANICS!!! LISTEN TO THIS ONE!!! YA-TA-TA-TA-TAAA!!! IT'S FUCKIN' GENIUS!!!") but it would no doubt push the Mike Show over that "end badly" cliff that Tom warned us about.
DM me. (Actually, please don't.)
Tim
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I went to a Manic Street Preachers fan convention in Cardiff ten years ago (wait! come back!) so I, too, can take any of your questions, Mr _Buster.
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Keith: I'm not familiar with Cicero or Maron. Will investigate. Sartre: a little too serious for me.
Pastor Josh: I agree with Chris L. I don't find Herzog depressing at all. In fact, I admire his ability to address all aspects of human behavior, the good and the horrible. Aguirre, Stroszek, Kaspar Hauser, and Little Dieter are my favorite Herzog movies.
Tim K: Since my uncle owns a bar, I think I can help you. What you have to do is be firm with the drunk. Let him know when his behavior is unacceptable. Kick him out if necessary (tell the enabling bartender in advance that this is what you're going to do the next time the drunk acts up). As you're kicking him out, let him know that you're not banning him, but will do so if he doesn't change his behavior in the future. If that doesn't happen, cut him loose. Life is too short and he'll find another bar where he can annoy people.
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Tim K: Since my uncle owns a bar, I think I can help you. What you have to do is be firm with the drunk. Let him know when his behavior is unacceptable. Kick him out if necessary (tell the enabling bartender in advance that this is what you're going to do the next time the drunk acts up). As you're kicking him out, let him know that you're not banning him, but will do so if he doesn't change his behavior in the future. If that doesn't happen, cut him loose. Life is too short and he'll find another bar where he can annoy people.
No wonder you're the preeminent call screener of this generation.
On an unrelated note, your new avatar is disturbing.
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Tim K: Since my uncle owns a bar, I think I can help you. What you have to do is be firm with the drunk. Let him know when his behavior is unacceptable. Kick him out if necessary (tell the enabling bartender in advance that this is what you're going to do the next time the drunk acts up). As you're kicking him out, let him know that you're not banning him, but will do so if he doesn't change his behavior in the future. If that doesn't happen, cut him loose. Life is too short and he'll find another bar where he can annoy people.
No wonder you're the preeminent call screener of this generation.
On an unrelated note, your new avatar is disturbing.
Oh my heavens, he has gone to hell.
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Tim K: Since my uncle owns a bar, I think I can help you. What you have to do is be firm with the drunk. Let him know when his behavior is unacceptable. Kick him out if necessary (tell the enabling bartender in advance that this is what you're going to do the next time the drunk acts up). As you're kicking him out, let him know that you're not banning him, but will do so if he doesn't change his behavior in the future. If that doesn't happen, cut him loose. Life is too short and he'll find another bar where he can annoy people.
AP Mike: call screener/future Intervention star weeder-outer.
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I think the Gabe kid from this week's follow-up had some undiagnosed mental health issues. His reactions to life didn't seem to be appropriate, even in Intervention's crazy little world.
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This thread is bad news. Right now it seems fine but mark my words: THIS WILL END BADLY.
Tom.
Someone's jeeeaaaallllooouuuuusss!!
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Tim K: Since my uncle owns a bar, I think I can help you. What you have to do is be firm with the drunk. Let him know when his behavior is unacceptable. Kick him out if necessary (tell the enabling bartender in advance that this is what you're going to do the next time the drunk acts up). As you're kicking him out, let him know that you're not banning him, but will do so if he doesn't change his behavior in the future. If that doesn't happen, cut him loose. Life is too short and he'll find another bar where he can annoy people.
Thats just what we did. We had this guy at the bar I work at. He would bring is laptop (ok) but he would also bust out an external keyboard (the one in the laptop was busted) and a mouse (same as keyboard). He would leave his big bag in one corner of the room, set up his computer on the bar counter, put his drink on a 3rd table and stand no where near any of those things. He would impose very bad smooth rock from his ipod on the people next to him and engage anyone he could to talk about Hemingway or Melville with. Oh and he was an angry at times and would abuse the Red Bull. Many times he would come in trashed and bring his own booze into the bar. Seriously. When he was normal, he was a decent guy. We banned him for a week here and a month there. After a year of dealing with his behavior becoming more and more childish we just 86ed him for life. I kinda feel bad for him, also for the poor bartender who has to deal with him now.
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B_buster, have you seen Herzog's docs? God's Angry Man is pretty great.
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I've seen a few, fletcher, but not that one. I'll get on it.
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WELLL-KOMMMM TOOO ZE MIIKKE THREADDD.
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WELLL-KOMMMM TOOO ZE MIIKKE THREADDD.
I gotta make a ringtone of that. I don't know what's funnier, Bruno S or Tom saying it.
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WELLL-KOMMMM TOOO ZE MIIKKE THREADDD.
I gotta make a ringtone of that. I don't know what's funnier, Bruno S or Tom saying it.
Tom is definitely clearer and less distorted.
That's why I used Bruno on the tape I mailed to Tom yesterday.
I also sent an ultra rare meeting between Paul McCartney and Alex Chilton from back in 1974.
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Mike, have you seen Children Underground? http://www.npr.org/programs/watc/features/2002/mar/children_underground/
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When did Mike say "anthropology, sociology, we'll all get degrees" that's in the intro? I love that.
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When did Mike say "anthropology, sociology, we'll all get degrees" that's in the intro? I love that.
During one of his Wire critiques.
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Mike, have you seen Children Underground? http://www.npr.org/programs/watc/features/2002/mar/children_underground/
No. I just added it to my Netflix list. Check out 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days for more Romanian dreariness.
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No. I just added it to my Netflix list. Check out 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days for more Romanian dreariness.
It's on my On Demand. I'll watch this week. How many movies are on your Netflix list?
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I think I'm at the max. I'm never going to watch them all.
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A friend of mine who I introduced the Best Show to a couple of months ago - but we haven't really discussed it since - called me up today. I answered. First thing he belted out: "VELLKOM TO ZE MIKESHOW"
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Mike, are you ever going to post your New Yorker caption contest entries online?
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I posted a couple on twitter a long time ago. I lost interest when the cartoons failed to appeal to my prurient interests.
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(http://waxinandmilkin.com/photo/1280/201422171/1/tumblr_kqte6775zZ1qz7l0a)
Rouge Film School brochure.
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What if I just got "a fire burning within"? In fact, I should probably see a doctor about that. The Rolaids aren't working anymore.
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"a fire burning within"?
Laughed out Loud.
Set It Free.
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Warning, old dude jokes.
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I think you'd like Marc Maron, Mike. He does jokes about despair and deprivation. Although, me thinks jokes doesn't quite convey what he does. Laughable truths is more apropos. He has a podcast! Past guests include David Cross, Jim Gaffigan, and John Oliver. Although, the real attraction is always Maron, which is a true testament to his talents.
As an aside, I think Cross's albums are two of the best cultural artifacts for navigating through the post 9/11 landscape.
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Hey Mike,
Why are using a picture of Spike in drag as your profile picture?
Your pal,
dave
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B_buster, have you seen Herzog's docs? God's Angry Man is pretty great.
I need a copy of that. Dr. Scott was a freak. I remember him and his Sunday shows on Ch. 13 in LA. He still exists on shortwave if you want some creepy from the dead kinda experience.
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I think you'd like Marc Maron, Mike. He does jokes about despair and deprivation. Although, me thinks jokes doesn't quite convey what he does. Laughable truths is more apropos. He has a podcast! Past guests include David Cross, Jim Gaffigan, and John Oliver. Although, the real attraction is always Maron, which is a true testament to his talents.
As an aside, I think Cross's albums are two of the best cultural artifacts for navigating through the post 9/11 landscape.
Don't forget that he had a random 20min conversation about Mad Men for no other reason than he and his friend like it.
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Warning, old dude jokes.
Whahchootawkinbout, Buffcoat?
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Warning, old dude jokes.
Whahchootawkinbout, Buffcoat?
Just don't start talking about digestive system distress, especially using non-scientific terms, and we'll all be fine.
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Warning, old dude jokes.
Whahchootawkinbout, Buffcoat?
Just don't start talking about digestive system distress, especially using non-scientific terms, and we'll all be fine.
Aw, dang. I just did that over on the fitness thread.
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Warning, old dude jokes.
Whahchootawkinbout, Buffcoat?
Just don't start talking about digestive system distress, especially using non-scientific terms, and we'll all be fine.
Aw, dang. I just did that over on the fitness thread.
Correction for sexism: Warning, old dude AND old chick jokes.
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Mike, have you ever seen the movie The Glamorous Life of Sachiko Hanai? It just struck me as something you might like...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrw6lnD71M0[/youtube]
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I have not seen it, kkmm. Will add it to my Netflix list.
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mike, does tom really like the sound of people getting cut off on the phone or is this some in-joke with you guys because at the rate of him saying that he likes it it makes me curious as to whether or not he REALLY likes it
like "ha ha" really like it
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He likes it. I like it. What's not to like about people getting cut off?
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i guess it's the part of it thats just kind of irrelevent and pointless.
like it's easy to do, right? you can do it at any time so the sport of it is kind of like a less challenging bean bag toss so when it's celebrated so frequently and mentioned that it's liked so much so frequently perhaps it comes off as a "trying too hard" type thing.
also the mike show needs its own slot, you have my go-ahead on that.
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i guess it's the part of it thats just kind of irrelevent and pointless.
Knock knock.
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the grown-ups are having a discussion here
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the grown-ups are having a discussion here
The grown-ups are having a discussion here who?
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yes.
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yes.
You know, I really am glad you didn't say banana?
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the grown-ups are having a discussion here
The grown-ups are having a discussion here who?
If he's "here who" is running hell?
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the grown-ups are having a discussion here
The grown-ups are having a discussion here who?
If he's "here who" is running hell?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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the grown-ups are having a discussion here
The grown-ups are having a discussion here who?
If he's "here who" is running hell?
Banana.
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the grown-ups are having a discussion here
The grown-ups are having a discussion here who?
If he's "here who" is running hell?
Banana.
Banana Who?
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A: Knock knock
B: Who's there?
A: Any
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A: Knock knock
B: Who's there?
A: Any
Anywho orange you glad I didn't say banana?
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Hard "G" alert!
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I never thought knock knock jokes could go over my head. First time for everything?
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A: Knock Knock
B: Who's there?
A: Whose zoo mihn
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(http://waxinandmilkin.com/photo/1280/201422171/1/tumblr_kqte6775zZ1qz7l0a)
Rouge Film School brochure.
Movieline posted an acceptance letter from Herzog, complete with a schedule:
http://www.movieline.com/2009/11/werner-herzogs-rogue-film-school-the-acceptance-letter.php (http://www.movieline.com/2009/11/werner-herzogs-rogue-film-school-the-acceptance-letter.php)
I'm amazed there are lunch breaks... wouldn't you think he'd run this a little like EST, and no one gets to even go to the bathroom the whole 3 days?
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That all sounds cushier than I expected. I thought this would take place in an abandoned power plant or something, and that the final admissions policy would be a bit more Joker-like ("We're gonna have... try-outs").
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Mike, besides what you said on the air, what was your take on Children Underground?
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There's not a whole lot more to say. It's one of the most heart-breaking movies I've ever seen. I'm glad some of the kids ended up getting help, but some of them didn't. Very disturbing stuff.
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Is this the new Mikes ilk section aka Mikes ghetto?
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There's not a whole lot more to say. It's one of the most heart-breaking movies I've ever seen. I'm glad some of the kids ended up getting help, but some of them didn't. Very disturbing stuff.
What kept it from getting a higher rating from you given how disturbing/heart-breaking it was?
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There's not a whole lot more to say. It's one of the most heart-breaking movies I've ever seen. I'm glad some of the kids ended up getting help, but some of them didn't. Very disturbing stuff.
What kept it from getting a higher rating from you given how disturbing/heart-breaking it was?
It didn't make me laugh. Is that the answer you're looking for? I don't know what else to say. It walked a very fine line between being exploitive and that made watching it a very uneasy experience.
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It didn't make me laugh. Is that the answer you're looking for? I don't know what else to say. It walked a very fine line between being exploitive and that made watching it a very uneasy experience.
Ha, no. I was just trying to figure out how, for you, this compares to something like Hoarders/Intervention.
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Well, obviously it's worse because kids were involved.
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I have a question:
Mike,
Your signature line "See God, Kai" ? Is that reference to the HBO John from Cincinnati series, Hans Christian Andersen's story "The Snow Queen," or something else?
Thank you.
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It's a reference to John from Cincinnati, a show that, strangely, I've grown more fond of the further I get from it.
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I still say, "I got my eye on YOU" to my cat.
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It's a reference to John from Cincinnati, a show that, strangely, I've grown more fond of the further I get from it.
I've never seen it but it sounds interesting. Thanks!
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Mike, have you heard of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Practices:_The_Story_of_a_Sex_Surrogate
Also, should this thread be moved to the Mike Forum? I started it with what the Mike Forum became in mind, but now that there is a Mike Forum this on going q and a seems like it might get lost. Or perhaps it is best to start new threads? Which do you prefer, Mike?
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No, I haven't heard of it (although it does remind me of a Hyapatia Lee movie I saw a long time ago).
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No, I haven't heard of it (although it does remind me of a Hyapatia Lee movie I saw a long time ago).
I just googled her. She has an autobiography and dissociative identity disorder! I find terms like disorder to be unuseful. It creates shame via stigmatization. If her coping mechanism is as described, then the trauma she's trying to deal with requires as much attention as the means by which she deals with it. And it's probably in the book!
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Mike, have you heard of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Practices:_The_Story_of_a_Sex_Surrogate
Also, should this thread be moved to the Mike Forum? I started it with what the Mike Forum became in mind, but now that there is a Mike Forum this on going q and a seems like it might get lost. Or perhaps it is best to start new threads? Which do you prefer, Mike?
I actually saw that "film". That's all I can say about it, until I get to Mike's shed.