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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: mcphee from the forum on September 25, 2009, 10:22:10 AM
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After listening to the recent Gems podcast, I got to thinking about other musical odes to pederasty. Two immediately sprung to mind:
R. Dean Taylor - "Shadow"
Original Sins - "Just 14"
Both about 14 year olds!
yuck!
Although I will say that "Just 14" is one of the rockingest songs ever recorded.
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Ringo Starr -- You're 16
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Sam Cooke - Only Sixteen
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dm - little 15
dm - a question of time
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Armand Schaubroeck Steals, "Preteen Mama"
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"Stray Cat Blues" - rolling stones
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Jailbait by Andre Williams
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Thirteen --Big Star
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Thirteen --Big Star
oh c'mon.
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Jailbait by Motörhead
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Thirteen --Big Star
oh c'mon.
Someone has to call them as they are.
Signed,
A Truth-teller
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you might be projecting on that one
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"Little Children" as recorded by Billy J. Kramer and the Dakotas, featuring lines like:
Little children, you better not tell on me I'm tellin' you
Little children, you better not tell what you see
And if you're good I'll give you candy and a quarter
If you're quiet like you oughta be
And keep a secret with me...
and especially:
You saw me kissin' your sister, you saw me holdin' her hand
But if you snitch to your mother, your father won't understand...
The whole thing comes off way creepier and more threatening than I hope was intended. That "your father won't understand" isn't all that far off from something escaped prisoners would say to threaten a kid who found them hiding in their neighborhood. The whole song, about running out of patience bribing the kids to shut up until he starts wishing the kids would disappear and take "a nap" just has the vibe of something Spike might sing if he was a drifter who blew into town and started putting the moves on someone's older sister.
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Thirteen --Big Star
oh c'mon.
Someone has to call them as they are.
Signed,
A Truth-teller
>:( How dare you!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pM0rNSQ5Oo
This is like the anti-Pedophilia theme....
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that isn't rock
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The Beatles were already in their twenties when they released "When I Saw Her Standing There." I guess 17 isn't that creepy, but the law is the law.
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The Beatles were already in their twenties when they released "When I Saw Her Standing There." I guess 17 isn't that creepy, but the law is the law.
the law is the law.
So true.
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Any song by Gwar.
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Little Sister -- Elvis Presley
I don't know ifg he wrote it.
Incriminating lyric:
Well, I used to pull your pigtails
And pinch your turned-up nose
But you been a growin
And baby, it's been showin
From your head down to your toes
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I saw Gary Puckett and the Union Gap open for the Monkees in 1986. That song takes on a whole new level of creepy when it's a 50 year old dude singing it.
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The Beatles were already in their twenties when they released "When I Saw Her Standing There." I guess 17 isn't that creepy, but the law is the law.
Well, this is the problem ... "Dancing Queen" refers to her being 17 too - feeling the beat of the tambourine, oh yeah. I think there's a definite line, and you can tell when it's being crossed. I don't think the Beatles or ABBA are crossing it.
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Memphis Tennessee- Chuck Berry
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Little Sister -- Elvis Presley
I don't know ifg he wrote it.
Incriminating lyric:
Well, I used to pull your pigtails
And pinch your turned-up nose
But you been a growin
And baby, it's been showin
From your head down to your toes
Elvis didn't write it (or anything else). It's a Pomus/Shuman song.
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The Beatles were already in their twenties when they released "When I Saw Her Standing There." I guess 17 isn't that creepy, but the law is the law.
Well, this is the problem ... "Dancing Queen" refers to her being 17 too - feeling the beat of the tambourine, oh yeah. I think there's a definite line, and you can tell when it's being crossed. I don't think the Beatles or ABBA are crossing it.
ABBA also has "Does Your Mother Know," which seems like a definite "thanks, but no thanks for your interest."
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Little Sister -- Elvis Presley
I don't know ifg he wrote it.
Incriminating lyric:
Well, I used to pull your pigtails
And pinch your turned-up nose
But you been a growin
And baby, it's been showin
From your head down to your toes
(/quote]
Elvis didn't write it (or anything else). It's a Pomus/Shuman song.
Is it sleazy enough to be included here? regardless of authorship.
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This reminded me of a song from the movie Hard Rock Zombies.
http://www.youtube.com/v/hFGj85XKitc&hl=en&fs=1&
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Original Sins - "Just 14"
... about 14 year olds!
yuck!
Although I will say that "Just 14" is one of the rockingest songs ever recorded.
Led Zep's "Sick Again": also super-rockin' ... and also highly problematic.
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The Who's "A Quick One, While He's Away." ?
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlN3oEjMpUQ[/youtube]
Man, those guys sure touch each other a lot in that video. There's, like, 2 shots of an actual chic. The rest is them bumpin' up against each other.
And, yeah, "Stray Cat Blues"? Doesn't he say "I presume that you're 15 years old"? That to me has always implied that she's younger. Great song though.
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Memphis Tennessee- Chuck Berry
Isn't this song about a father trying to get his daughter on the phone? That hardly seems sleazy to me.
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"Don't Stand So Close to Me."
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And, yeah, "Stray Cat Blues"? Doesn't he say "I presume that you're 15 years old"? That to me has always implied that she's younger. Great song though.
I think it's "I can see that you're 15 years old/I don't want your ID". Mick also invites the girl to bring her "wilder than you" friend so she can join in, so that's an underage threesome right there.
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Any song by Gwar.
Especially "Rock n' Roll Never Felt So Good." The kid in this case also happens to be quadriplegic.
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Any song by Gwar.
Especially "Rock n' Roll Never Felt So Good." The kid in this case also happens to be quadriplegic.
and I believe raped by a piece of frozen feces. That was the song I was thinking of when I posted that, couldn't remember the title and haven't heard it since I was 14 but it's haunted me ever since... YUCK!
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Little Sister -- Elvis Presley
I don't know ifg he wrote it.
Incriminating lyric:
Well, I used to pull your pigtails
And pinch your turned-up nose
But you been a growin
And baby, it's been showin
From your head down to your toes
(/quote]
Elvis didn't write it (or anything else). It's a Pomus/Shuman song.
Is it sleazy enough to be included here? regardless of authorship.
I would say no. The guy in the song is lusting after the grown-up version of a girl he's known since she was little.
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so many borderline inappropriate songs about 17 year olds:
Beatles - I Saw Here Standing There
Winger - Seventeen
Stray Cats - Sexy and 17
Janis Ian - At Seventeen
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Sweet Caroline - Neil Diamond (About Caroline Kennedy)
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Not a Rock song, but "Parents Just Don't Understand" has a whole verse about a 12 year old. At least The Fresh Prince had the decency to send himself to jail in the song.
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so many borderline inappropriate songs about 17 year olds:
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Janis Ian - At Seventeen
Come on.
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When she was I think 6 or 7 my sister was in some dance recital, and the whole family went to see it. The older kids did a routine to 'Sexy and 17', only in the program they had printed 'Adorable and 17'. So they knew on some level maybe that wasn't a good idea.
so many borderline inappropriate songs about 17 year olds:
Beatles - I Saw Here Standing There
Winger - Seventeen
Stray Cats - Sexy and 17
Janis Ian - At Seventeen
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so many borderline inappropriate songs about 17 year olds:
. . .
Janis Ian - At Seventeen
Come on.
Admittedly it's been a long time since I've heard it.
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... and Roman Polanski is now under arrest after 30 years. I swear, the Best Show is prescient about these things.
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... and Roman Polanski is now under arrest after 30 years. I swear, the Best Show is prescient about these things.
I know, and by the Swiss!
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He had to have wanted to get arrested. He's been avoiding countries that might extradite him for years, and I doubt he wasn't aware that he'd face that possibility in Switzerland.
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I guess "the line" is somewhere between tax evasion and paedophilia.
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The Beatles were already in their twenties when they released "When I Saw Her Standing There." I guess 17 isn't that creepy, but the law is the law.
Not in England, you anglodummy.
What about "Run for your life"? Worse but maybe sleazy is the wrong word?
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"Scary" is the word for that song.
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The Beatles were already in their twenties when they released "When I Saw Her Standing There." I guess 17 isn't that creepy, but the law is the law.
Not in England, you anglodummy.
I obviously meant God's law.
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Now that the MacKenzie Phillips story has broken, any song by the Mamas and the Papas is on the super-sleaze list. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/bijou-phillips-mackenzies_n_300004.html
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that isn't rock
...is that because it rules or it rots?
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This is wrong for a lot of reasons, but specifically, the voice they gave Ken sounds like he's 50 and has been smoking crack through a road flare.
"Hiya Barbie! Wanna go for a ride?"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwu6NrxVVFk[/youtube]
And I don't think it's appropriate that Ken does the hip-pump move when he says "Let's go party!"
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I don't belong in this world.