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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Barry Egan on September 29, 2009, 04:02:02 PM
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Anyone got an invite?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ[/youtube]
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i think they go out tomorrow. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/surfs-up-wednesday-google-wave-update.html (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/surfs-up-wednesday-google-wave-update.html).
i hope i get one.
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I foresee a lot of miscommunication, especially re sent messages that are really drafts, and this whole "invite everyone in the world to join the LIVE conversation" also sounds like it could lead to lots of people writing/sending/seeing/reading things they shouldn't, etc etc.
But it looks pretty cool I GUESS.
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i'm optimistic because it might make third party apps like basecamp useless. i do some web development w/ projects that kind of fit and start with different players and a wave would be perfect for keeping all the crap in one nice document.
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I watched about 20 minutes of this, but couldn't continue because the audience clapping was getting too annoying.
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I still remember the not-completely-describable apps that were going to change the world in 1997. Still waiting. The stuff that changed the world (a little, even) mostly wasn't supposed to - but it could be described pretty quick.
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anyone got an invite?
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i finally got an invite. and i have 1 invite left. contest?
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I'd be willing to barter a cross stitch for the invite.
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I know some people that got one but I don't want to beg.
In fact I'm kind of sour at Google now, since their ActiveSync for mobile devices sucks.
Music plays:
http://easiertounderstandthanwave.com/
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I'll give it to Andy because he responded first.
pm me your email (no cross stitch necessary).
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I don't actually want one.
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Maybe I'm wrong but I agree with this article:
http://www.slate.com/id/2232311/pagenum/all
I also don't like communication that is "live." I'm always hated IM and anything like it. The past few years have seen me deactivating facebook and google chat. Wave can be synchronous like a phone call or asynchronous like email. I like asynchronous for business non-emergencies. Synchronous communications also require always-on broadband. It does look like it could revolutionize Internet chess.
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I have one left if anybody wants it.
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I have one left if anybody wants it.
Gone!
I'm sure the lucky winner will invite other FOTs. :)
It takes a while for the invites to process so be patient.
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Now that Malcolm Gladwell has taken over my brain, when I see something like Google Wave I wonder if I'm too old and dumb to get that this is a paradigm shift and that it's more important than I could possibly understand.
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Now that Malcolm Gladwell has taken over my brain, when I see something like Google Wave I wonder if I'm too old and dumb to get that this is a paradigm shift and that it's more important than I could possibly understand.
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Fredericks, I can't tell if that's funny or extremely funny. Did you intentionally copy that text?
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It was like that when I got there.
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I don't think any of my invites have processed. What good is a networking tool with no network?
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So, do you think this is going to take off? I don't think anybody can overtake Facebook as king of the social networks. People who aren't tech savvy took a long time to warm up to Facebook and they aren't going to switch just because, and those are the people who put something like this over the edge. The same goes for mp3 players, there are a lot of players out there that are better or equal to the ipod but casual users aren't going to switch. Or browsers- Firefox and Chrome are awesome but people use IE because they are used to it. I don't see Wave making a big impact.... or splash if you will.
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Wave isn't a social network. It's basically persistent IM/chatrooms, with history, that you can attach stuff to, including little programs. It's actually a real-time communications protocol; Google would have done better if they gave Wave and their implementation of it a different name.
I can see it being useful for people that have to collaborate on projects online. I don't see it as being a compelling replacement for anything other than mailing documents back and forth, or ad-hoc wikis and things like Google Docs. I've yet to see how they deal with simultaneous changes to items in a Wave or conflicts as you'll get over high-latency connections, such as satellite. It seems like they think that making something "real time" (which is impossible in all circumstances) will magic away sync problems and conflicts.
Email is kind of antiquated. There needs to be a way to keep email's openness without drowning the world in spam. One way is to get rid of email's relative anonymity and easy forgeability, of course. My favorite proposal is a requirement that a penny be put in escrow for one week for each message sent (perhaps to only apply to certain domains), payable to the recipient on demand, if the recipient finds the message annoying. Thus making spam and other "marketing" no longer free of cost. There should also be a unique message ID preserved in replies to make threading possible without relying on subject headers.
The problem is that Wave tries to fix too much. 90% of collaboration-by-email fuckups I've seen would go away if people could be bothered to use any number of online tools and would stop using fucking Office programs for everything. There's plenty of room for technological improvement, but most computer problems are caused by people hanging on to old, bad ways of doing things.
I haven't read a single good review of Wave so far from people who've used it, and review technology for a living.
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I'm pretty excited about wave. It's gotta couple of interesting things going for it. It's mostly open source, so who knows what direction it could go in. It's built on an existing IM protocol. They're trying to make it so you can embed just about anything in it, an idea as old as OpenDoc and OLE/COM, but actually working and useful this time. I think wave-based message boards could be cool.
I can't wait for email to die.
But yeah, I agree with you. I'm just more optimistic about its potential.
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OK; one person finally 'waved' me and already there is a feature that i like.
I mistyped something and i could just edit it. that was awesome. the email isn't "gone"; it's just sitting there.
but i think yesno nailed it = it is a collaboration tool; wave is going to help me out, i think.
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Oh, ok. I was told wrong about what Wave was. I probably won't use it right away or at all... don't really need to collabarate with people, but I can see the use for it.
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It could operate as a real-time F.O.T. wiki.
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It could operate as a real-time F.O.T. wiki.
Exactly, it'd be easy enough to edit the chat into a recap. It wouldn't have the style of Omar's recaps, but it'd be faster crowdsourced.
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It could operate as a real-time F.O.T. wiki.
Exactly, it'd be easy enough to edit the chat into a recap. It wouldn't have the style of Omar's recaps, but it'd be faster crowdsourced.
UH UMM
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Hey, didn't there used to be oh nevermind.
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Hey, didn't there used to be oh nevermind.
OOHHHHHHH
Right in the calzonays
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Wave works great. 3 of us are developing a website and the wave (ugh) eliminates a massive amount of emails as we tick off the to-do and bug list. You can store login info, specs and other nuggets in their, too.
Also, what I like about it is that you can archive your wave and then if someone edits it or adds to it it shows up in your inbox again. That means you can leave your inbox completely empty until it's your turn to do something.
It has some quirks; like you can't see if anyone is viewing the wave or not until they start typing. I'd like to know if someone is "in there".
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I got an invite but I don't know anyone who's on it so I haven't been able to try it out.
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I have more invites. PM for one.
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anyone have invites? ??? :) :) ;) waving hello.
love,
kevin
(edit: ixnay on the invite-ay. kernel panick got my back. i still love you all.)
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thanks todd!
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I still have 6 of these dead weights. Requests have slowed to a trickle.
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I'm on there but I don't think I was given any invites. Is that only something they gave to people that signed up early?
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Add me to your contacts: bergmayer.
Add an at googlewave to that.
FOTWave.
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I'm at bcvarney. Add me so I can actually use this thing.
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I just got some invites. Hit me up if you need one.
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iambaronvontito2
i think.
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Anyone got an invite?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ[/youtube]
An invite to what? Is this one of those corny Windows 7 parties?
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Can this be used for sharing music and other files like comics with a group of friends? It seems like it could but then I tried to attach a comic CBZ file and it didn't seem to work.
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I was able to put this into action last night and fool around with all of the features last night with a friend. It really is a huge upgrade over email. The only thing now is the adoption process that will take a long time. Facebook didn't become great until non-techie friends started using it, and that's how wave will be as well, at least for myself. Getting people to switch emails is going to be much more difficult than getting people to sign up for a website. But, it's really nice, if you don't have an invite let me or somebody else who offered know. Wave isn't just for techies, it's a better way to do email.