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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: Joe Rogaine on October 14, 2009, 11:06:58 PM
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Remember when Tom reviewed Death Proof and mentioned Tarintino stepping up his game if he wants to be in the same breath as PT Anderson?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rp5NjLRRyw&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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You'd think he'd get the name of the main character right. Plainview, not Longview.
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Thanks for sharing this. It was great. And mission accomplished for Tarantino. They are very different filmmakers, but Tarantino (although his style is derived from many others, although whose isn't really, his are just unabashedly so) has so mastered his own style so that there is no question that you're watching a Quentin Tarantino movie. I don't think the pro-Anderson/anti-Tarantino stance really meshes with the whole slobs vs snobs thing that the show and the FOTs purport to subscribe to.
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Thanks for sharing this. It was great. And mission accomplished for Tarantino. They are very different filmmakers, but Tarantino (although his style is derived from many others, although whose isn't really, his are just unabashedly so) has so mastered his own style so that there is no question that you're watching a Quentin Tarantino movie. I don't think the pro-Anderson/anti-Tarantino stance really meshes with the whole slobs vs snobs thing that the show and the FOTs purport to subscribe to.
That reminds me of a situation in that came up a few weeks ago in my Rhetoric of Vision and Sound class. My obscenely pretentious professor was asked if he was interested in seeing Inglourious Basterds, and he replied that he had "no interest." A discussion broke out and he insisted that he's becoming less and less interested in violent movies. As the discussion came to a climax, a freshman at the front of the room exclaimed loudly "I, for one, am waiting for the new PT Anderson film." and the professor nodded in agreement and said "Exactly!" I was so shocked and enraged by this sudden outburst of pompous superiority that my response was limited to wordless scoffs, huffs, and puffs. As if it's one or the other, that tastes for high and low culture cannot be reconciled (as if a Tarantino film would be considered low culture).
Since then, they have developed a smug relationship of self-congratulation and loud pre-class discussions about the latest buzz that half the class has also heard about, but isn't interested enough to discuss (Have you heard about this Spike Jonze fellow?).
Just awful.
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What's more violent: the cartoony gore of Tarentino, or the gritty pummelings of Anderson?
I was under the impression that if you are actually a fan of art that you reject the high/low culture dichotomy on account of how art is about expression and not status. This is an inherently political statement!
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What's more violent: the cartoony gore of Tarentino, or the gritty pummelings of Anderson?
honestly, in terms of emotional impact, the violence in Anderson's work is far more brutal.
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I don't think the pro-Anderson/anti-Tarantino stance really meshes with the whole slobs vs snobs thing that the show and the FOTs purport to subscribe to.
Purport!
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Is Anderson considered high art? I honestly don't know. I'd like him a lot more if he could figure out how to write a third act.
BTW, Tarantino looks like shit in that video - puffy and unhealthy. He looks like he needs some exercise and a green vegetable or two. OK, he should also probably cut down the coke intake.
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Thanks for sharing this. It was great. And mission accomplished for Tarantino. They are very different filmmakers, but Tarantino (although his style is derived from many others, although whose isn't really, his are just unabashedly so) has so mastered his own style so that there is no question that you're watching a Quentin Tarantino movie. I don't think the pro-Anderson/anti-Tarantino stance really meshes with the whole slobs vs snobs thing that the show and the FOTs purport to subscribe to.
That reminds me of a situation in that came up a few weeks ago in my Rhetoric of Vision and Sound class. My obscenely pretentious professor was asked if he was interested in seeing Inglourious Basterds, and he replied that he had "no interest." A discussion broke out and he insisted that he's becoming less and less interested in violent movies. As the discussion came to a climax, a freshman at the front of the room exclaimed loudly "I, for one, am waiting for the new PT Anderson film." and the professor nodded in agreement and said "Exactly!" I was so shocked and enraged by this sudden outburst of pompous superiority that my response was limited to wordless scoffs, huffs, and puffs. As if it's one or the other, that tastes for high and low culture cannot be reconciled (as if a Tarantino film would be considered low culture).
Since then, they have developed a smug relationship of self-congratulation and loud pre-class discussions about the latest buzz that half the class has also heard about, but isn't interested enough to discuss (Have you heard about this Spike Jonze fellow?).
Just awful.
Shit, if you're analyzing art there's no point in discussing what people like. That's a whole different game. Chemists don't argue about their feelings about nitrogen. It just is what it is.
BTW, The Dark Knight stunk.
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I just hope Quentin spends half of it discussing the opening gold mine scene that takes place in a silver mine.
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Thanks for sharing this. It was great. And mission accomplished for Tarantino. They are very different filmmakers, but Tarantino (although his style is derived from many others, although whose isn't really, his are just unabashedly so) has so mastered his own style so that there is no question that you're watching a Quentin Tarantino movie. I don't think the pro-Anderson/anti-Tarantino stance really meshes with the whole slobs vs snobs thing that the show and the FOTs purport to subscribe to.
That reminds me of a situation in that came up a few weeks ago in my Rhetoric of Vision and Sound class. My obscenely pretentious professor was asked if he was interested in seeing Inglourious Basterds, and he replied that he had "no interest." A discussion broke out and he insisted that he's becoming less and less interested in violent movies. As the discussion came to a climax, a freshman at the front of the room exclaimed loudly "I, for one, am waiting for the new PT Anderson film." and the professor nodded in agreement and said "Exactly!" I was so shocked and enraged by this sudden outburst of pompous superiority that my response was limited to wordless scoffs, huffs, and puffs. As if it's one or the other, that tastes for high and low culture cannot be reconciled (as if a Tarantino film would be considered low culture).
Since then, they have developed a smug relationship of self-congratulation and loud pre-class discussions about the latest buzz that half the class has also heard about, but isn't interested enough to discuss (Have you heard about this Spike Jonze fellow?).
Just awful.
Academic man-crushes are always painful to watch. I'm assuming that's as far as this one goes, but you never know, as Sol Rosenberg said.
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Way to shit on Paul Dano, melonhead.
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coming at this from a bit of a different angle,
i don't like tarintino films. his style is just not my thing. LATELY though, for some reason, people have been so challenging towards me regarding that opinion, as if i'm not allowed to have it, or as if i have to give his movies more chances. i just want to ask why? i've seen several of his films, and i don't like them at all... not even a little bit. why should i continue wasting my money? what is it about this guy that people feel the need to back him so hard? i don't like nickelback, so i don't listen to their new records when they come out. i'm busy listening to things i like. i think the same logic should apply to films. i also think people need to leave me alone... it's okay that i don't like tarintino films... it's REALLY okay!
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i think the same logic should apply to films friends. i also think people need to leave me alone... it's REALLY okay!
Corrected.
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what is it about this guy that people feel the need to back him so hard?
It could have something to do with the fact that his movies are tailor-made for cinephiles (in the sense that there are so many references and homages) and so a large contingent of his fans are people who take film very seriously and have seen and absorbed way more movies than the average person. I think these people tend to identify very personally QT himself since he is such a film nerd, and can get really defensive about his stuff as a result.
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what is it about this guy that people feel the need to back him so hard?
It could have something to do with the fact that his movies are tailor-made for cinephiles (in the sense that there are so many references and homages) and so a large contingent of his fans are people who take film very seriously and have seen and absorbed way more movies than the average person. I think these people tend to identify very personally QT himself since he is such a film nerd, and can get really defensive about his stuff as a result.
Well, I, for one, liked the part where they shot Hitler's head off.
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what is it about this guy that people feel the need to back him so hard?
It could have something to do with the fact that his movies are tailor-made for cinephiles (in the sense that there are so many references and homages) and so a large contingent of his fans are people who take film very seriously and have seen and absorbed way more movies than the average person. I think these people tend to identify very personally QT himself since he is such a film nerd, and can get really defensive about his stuff as a result.
These are the cinephiles who are passionate about Tarantino (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34201) (1997 and still holds up). The real ones are a lot more divided.