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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: colonel panic on October 21, 2009, 10:22:19 AM
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where: Red Raven Coffee shop
what: Therese and Mike talking about callscreeners
me: was at first confused and checked to see if I was wearing an ipod. I then complimented the barista on their selection of tunes; he said that 'somebody who worked there like the station'.
Hearing the Best Show in a random public space was exciting. I'm sure it happens all the time out in Jersey.
Moonshake, do you work at the Red Raven?
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No, I do not work there. That means there is a fourth WFMU listener in town! Maybe we could all get together and have a Best Show listening party dere?
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That's a great idea.
I had to leave for band practice last night but I just wanted to sit there under the speaker and enjoy the serendipitous moment.
I think it would be a great place for a listening party. It was completely dead. I envision our group hunched over laptops (in the chat) laughing and drinking coffee.
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This blows my mind.
Colronel Panic, the same from the Electrical Board?
This is great.
Ike from Wishek, ND
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Ike, unfortunately I am not from the Electrical Board. Is there a different 'cernal panic' from ND ????
I'm from Minot, originally.
Here is the nerdly ancestry of the handle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_panic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_panic)
I'd like to meet this other 'cernal'.
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Thanks for the info.--I had no clue!
Yes, there's a Colonel Panic on the Electrical board, and he's certainly not from NoDak.
We used to play in Minot a lot, at the Liberty. I really, really love Minot, actually--my brother-in-law grew up there, and I've had some ties to that neck of the woods for years.
Fargo is where most of MY inlaws live, and Fargo....she is a cold bitch. COLD BITCH. I've never warmed up to anything there. THIS IS MY FAULT, NOT FARGO'S. I went to college in GF, and when I was a kid all my school shopping/fast food experience was in Bismarck. Fargo was pretty clearly no. 3 on the list.
Apparently there's a Best Show fan from East Grand Forks, too. He/She posts here once in a while.
Best,
Ike
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This blows my mind.
Colronel Panic, the same from the Electrical Board?
This is great.
Ike from Wishek, ND
Ha! I was wondering this as well.
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No, I do not work there. That means there is a fourth WFMU listener in town! Maybe we could all get together and have a Best Show listening party dere?
Excellent idea.
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So ummm... are you guys sick of outsiders asking about Chuck Klosterman? There were a couple of Best Show connections in his new book, with explorations of ABBA and Werner Herzog.
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You know; from where I'm sitting, he's not as famous or appreciated here as one would think or as much as he deserves. I'm happy that someone asked about it, Sleepyjack.
It's a little frustrating when people who actually knew Chuck when he lived here and know he is an accomplished author won't take the time to read any of his stuff; even if only to dismiss it. I'm not naming names (insert most of my friends names here).
I haven't read his latest but maybe I'll get to it over the holiday break. I thought his review of the new Beatles box set as reviewed by someone who has never heard of the Beatles was pretty great.
So ummm... are you guys sick of outsiders asking about Chuck Klosterman? There were a couple of Best Show connections in his new book, with explorations of ABBA and Werner Herzog.
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Chuck Klosterman rarely comes up in conversation. I can think of only three people who've ever mentioned him in recent memory, and one of them is Todd (Colonel Panic).
Chuck was quick to dismiss a lot of the noisy punk bands that played around in Fargo -- so I think there's a bit of leftover animosity from some people that run in those circles. The older ones, at least.
I used to work at the Forum at the same time as Chuck, and we'd exchange e-mails a lot about random music. We also wrote for the same zine at one time (Readyset...Aesthetic, a short-lived publication out of Madison, WI) and became somewhat friendly through that. He seems like a very nice guy.
I actually pre-ordered Fargo Rock City. I've read Sex Drugs and Cocoa Puffs too. I liked 'em both a lot.
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Chuck called my old band (Seven O'clock Sucker) "the prototypical garage band" which could go either way coming from him. This was originally printed in 1995.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WPoz7KyfhUQC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=seven+o'clock+sucker+klosterman&source=bl&ots=FUFFCLg8fy&sig=AWSRVTERt5wixNapUiI6vMidCoM&hl=en&ei=2gzmSvarGNXYlAeV_NToCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=seven%20o'clock%20sucker%20klosterman&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=WPoz7KyfhUQC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=seven+o'clock+sucker+klosterman&source=bl&ots=FUFFCLg8fy&sig=AWSRVTERt5wixNapUiI6vMidCoM&hl=en&ei=2gzmSvarGNXYlAeV_NToCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=seven%20o'clock%20sucker%20klosterman&f=false)
I'm just grateful that he got the band's name in print!
I think a lot of people were a little wary of Chuck because we rarely saw him at shows yet he would write about the scene as an insider. In hindsight, I appreciate that he documented what was going on. It was a really great time to be enjoying punk rock in Fargo. Hard to believe, I'm sure. Don't get me started about Minot, ND.
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Wow. I didn't know that article made it into CK IV. I'm gonna have to check that out.
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I remember your band really well. My brother-in-law is Lyle Snyder, of THUNDERCHICKEN fame.
That's right, Thunderchicken.
I've always hated Klosterman's work, going way, way back to his reviews of such "important" records as Alanis Morrisette's "Jagged Little Pill" and Stone Temple Pilots in the Dakota Student. He had, hands down, the WORST taste in music. Ever.
I also object to the tone of Fargo Rock City. I've read it, and at times it was entertaining, but that was not an experience I could relate to at all. Small town dudes, interested in cruising and blasting G'n'F'nR (or getting loaded and bird-doggin' chicks) was not my experience at all, and I got a little offended that this could be seen as a blanket statement on the entire experience of small town life in the 80's. Mostly, I object to his writing. I think he's a bad writer.
BUT BUT BUT there's a small "all for one, one for all" gene where I pull for anyone from my home state. Conway Twitty. Shadoe Stevens. I'll add Klosterman to that list.
Chuck called my old band (Seven O'clock Sucker) "the prototypical garage band" which could go either way coming from him. This was originally printed in 1995.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WPoz7KyfhUQC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=seven+o'clock+sucker+klosterman&source=bl&ots=FUFFCLg8fy&sig=AWSRVTERt5wixNapUiI6vMidCoM&hl=en&ei=2gzmSvarGNXYlAeV_NToCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=seven%20o'clock%20sucker%20klosterman&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=WPoz7KyfhUQC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=seven+o'clock+sucker+klosterman&source=bl&ots=FUFFCLg8fy&sig=AWSRVTERt5wixNapUiI6vMidCoM&hl=en&ei=2gzmSvarGNXYlAeV_NToCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=seven%20o'clock%20sucker%20klosterman&f=false)
I'm just grateful that he got the band's name in print!
I think a lot of people were a little wary of Chuck because we rarely saw him at shows yet he would write about the scene as an insider. In hindsight, I appreciate that he documented what was going on. It was a really great time to be enjoying punk rock in Fargo. Hard to believe, I'm sure. Don't get me started about Minot, ND.
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I wonder what specific activities are included under "bird-doggin'".
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Small town dudes, interested in cruising and blasting G'n'F'nR (or getting loaded and bird-doggin' chicks) was not my experience at all, and I got a little offended that this could be seen as a blanket statement on the entire experience of small town life in the 80's.
Did we read the same book? Klosterman was more or less a middle-of-the-road nerd in Fargo Rock City. I don't think he'd tell anyone it's an archetype for the ND 80s adolescence. Still, he manages a fair picture of what I saw just across the border in Minnesota. I just didn't really participate in it.
Anyone considering heading to the Red Raven for a future episode?
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Small town dudes, interested in cruising and blasting G'n'F'nR (or getting loaded and bird-doggin' chicks) was not my experience at all, and I got a little offended that this could be seen as a blanket statement on the entire experience of small town life in the 80's.
Did we read the same book? Klosterman was more or less a middle-of-the-road nerd in Fargo Rock City. I don't think he'd tell anyone it's an archetype for the ND 80s adolescence. Still, he manages a fair picture of what I saw just across the border in Minnesota. I just didn't really participate in it.
A little bit of hyperbole on my part to point out how lunk-headed I thought it was. I was excited to read a book about small town, NoDak life/rock music, and I found it only tangentially dealt with anything I had an interest in, at all. It was about a hundred miles away from any notion of punk rock that I knew. Whether he'd tell anyone the he's created an archetype or not, I think that's sorta out of his hands. When the book is out, it's out, and those things take care of themselves. I this case, all 9 of us who care will have our own specific reactions, and in my case, I reacted to stupidity of it.
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North Dakota is great that way; everybody is one degree away from anybody else.
Lyle just emailed me because he is setting up a "Minot Punk Rock Reunion" for next summer.
It should be a blast.
Lyle is one stand-up dude.
I remember your band really well. My brother-in-law is Lyle Snyder, of THUNDERCHICKEN fame.
That's right, Thunderchicken.
I've always hated Klosterman's work, going way, way back to his reviews of such "important" records as Alanis Morrisette's "Jagged Little Pill" and Stone Temple Pilots in the Dakota Student. He had, hands down, the WORST taste in music. Ever.
I also object to the tone of Fargo Rock City. I've read it, and at times it was entertaining, but that was not an experience I could relate to at all. Small town dudes, interested in cruising and blasting G'n'F'nR (or getting loaded and bird-doggin' chicks) was not my experience at all, and I got a little offended that this could be seen as a blanket statement on the entire experience of small town life in the 80's. Mostly, I object to his writing. I think he's a bad writer.
BUT BUT BUT there's a small "all for one, one for all" gene where I pull for anyone from my home state. Conway Twitty. Shadoe Stevens. I'll add Klosterman to that list.
Chuck called my old band (Seven O'clock Sucker) "the prototypical garage band" which could go either way coming from him. This was originally printed in 1995.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WPoz7KyfhUQC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=seven+o'clock+sucker+klosterman&source=bl&ots=FUFFCLg8fy&sig=AWSRVTERt5wixNapUiI6vMidCoM&hl=en&ei=2gzmSvarGNXYlAeV_NToCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=seven%20o'clock%20sucker%20klosterman&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=WPoz7KyfhUQC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=seven+o'clock+sucker+klosterman&source=bl&ots=FUFFCLg8fy&sig=AWSRVTERt5wixNapUiI6vMidCoM&hl=en&ei=2gzmSvarGNXYlAeV_NToCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=seven%20o'clock%20sucker%20klosterman&f=false)
I'm just grateful that he got the band's name in print!
I think a lot of people were a little wary of Chuck because we rarely saw him at shows yet he would write about the scene as an insider. In hindsight, I appreciate that he documented what was going on. It was a really great time to be enjoying punk rock in Fargo. Hard to believe, I'm sure. Don't get me started about Minot, ND.
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Anyone considering heading to the Red Raven for a future episode?
I am always free Tuesday evenings. You guys decide when and I'm there.