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Title: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Kadon on December 06, 2009, 12:11:49 AM
There was just a sketch on SNL that was eerily similar to the entire Gathering of the Juggalos segment back in, what, July? From the second it started, I felt like something was up. Even had helicopters spraying stuff on people.


 I'll post a link to the video whenever it shows up online.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: sonicdork on December 06, 2009, 12:27:42 AM
I thought the same thing. Some of the band names were funny though. Thurdersex and Gunt.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Kadon on December 06, 2009, 12:30:41 AM
What really stuck out to me was mentioning spraying people with viruses? from the helicopter, without mentioning the helicopter rides or anything like that. That was what really struck me as shenanigans.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: David on December 06, 2009, 12:33:35 AM
I think they call it an "homage." The stilts thing was hilarious.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: samir on December 06, 2009, 12:43:21 AM
I thought it funny enough to tweet about. Nasim played the girl from the trailer to perfection. Everyone gets a pitchfork!
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Geoff Johnston on December 06, 2009, 01:38:46 AM
Agreed, Kadon.  I thought it was funny and then they made the "helicopters spraying viruses" joke and I thought, "Wait just one what-the-who!?"

My wife was then quite worried as to why my enjoyment of such an otherwise benign sketch took a nosedive so quickly with me, as if my grandmother had been killed by a helicopter-dispensed virus.

Linear thinking or straight-up joke jackery?  The world...may never know.

Still, between Mrs. Potato Dick and sex with the Iron Sheik, it had its moments.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Kadon on December 06, 2009, 01:48:20 AM
I had a bad feeling as soon as it started and sort of expected it to play out like that. Kind of kept me from enjoying it.

That being said, you know, maybe "ripped off" wasn't the best phrase to use. But, I don't think this is entirely, eh, kosher?
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Christina on December 06, 2009, 01:01:31 PM
Just caught this on the hulu. Not only is this months behind, the jokes aren't really that piercing ... it's just a bunch of rips on band names.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Kadon on December 06, 2009, 03:14:48 PM
There was just a sketch on SNL that was eerily similar to the entire Gathering of the Juggalos segment back in, what, July? From the second it started, I felt like something was up. Even had helicopters spraying stuff on people.


 I'll post a link to the video whenever it shows up online.


Here's the URL to the video on hulu (a hyperlink OR NORMAL LINK, WOW just inserts some awful embedded player, so deal with it): hulu.com/watch/113213/saturday-night-live-underground-festival
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: spacepope on December 06, 2009, 03:34:12 PM
I'm sure lots of people made fun of the Gathering of the Juggalos video. The festival only happened 6 months ago. Seriously the preview video was being made fun of so much, it's not even on YouTube anymore. Nobody was ripping off Tom by making fun of such an easy target.

Here's Tom and Paul talking about it:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ezgv2x

Your welcome.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Keith Whitener on December 06, 2009, 04:02:58 PM
Tom/PFT > SNL

I enjoyed Gunt because I could imagine the guys in Gunt high-fiving each other over how great their name is.

Here's what puzzles me: there are so many incredibly talented people on SNL (on screen and in the writing room). Why is it so meh? I know what Bob O says and that seems clear to me, but, even so, shouldn't it at least be a little bit better? I laugh more at Harold night at the UCB and I'm not that big into Improv.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: P.W. on December 06, 2009, 05:52:31 PM
@ Keith: If it's not the talent, it's the writers. Now that Tom's unemployed, maybe he can go write high-brow for SNL.

Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Kadon on December 06, 2009, 06:25:21 PM
Here's what puzzles me: there are so many incredibly talented people on SNL. Why is it so meh? I know what Bob O says and that seems clear to me, but, even so, shouldn't it at least be a little bit better? I laugh more at Harold night at the UCB and I'm not that big into Improv.

I imagine there's a lot of pressure in the producing/directing arena there, where they push a lot of formulaic sketches that regularly reoccur. Kirsten Wig, even though everyone loves her, seems to be doing a lot of them. The fast talker, the little kid who looks like Little Orphan Annie, the Target lady. I figure there's someone in charge there saying, "THIS WORKED BEFORE, SO KEEP DOING IT, IT'S GREAT TV."

But then you have Samberg and the Lonely Island bunch who can essentially go off on their own and really carry the whole show.

But... I never get tired of Keenan's ZUT ALORS!
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Kadon on December 06, 2009, 06:26:43 PM
I'm sure lots of people made fun of the Gathering of the Juggalos video. The festival only happened 6 months ago. Seriously the preview video was being made fun of so much, it's not even on YouTube anymore. Nobody was ripping off Tom by making fun of such an easy target.

Here's Tom and Paul talking about it:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ezgv2x

Your welcome.

What do you think about the portion about spraying people from the helicopters with viruses, though? Wasn't that a little weird?
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Christina on December 06, 2009, 06:58:19 PM
@ Keith: If it's not the talent, it's the writers. Now that Tom's unemployed, maybe he can go write high-brow for SNL.


Good lord, I hope he doesn't.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Cityslang716 on December 06, 2009, 09:04:29 PM
I got the feeling that maybe friend of the best show, and SNL writer John Mulaney may have written this sketch as an homage to the best show... perhaps?
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: nec13 on December 06, 2009, 09:08:17 PM
I got the feeling that maybe friend of the best show, and SNL writer John Mulaney may have written this sketch as an homage to the best show... perhaps?

I was thinking the same thing. I also think there's probably a few SNL writers that listen to TBSOWFMU.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 06, 2009, 10:11:52 PM
I am assuming Tom and PFT got a check.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: erechoveraker on December 06, 2009, 10:44:35 PM
@ Keith: If it's not the talent, it's the writers. Now that Tom's unemployed, maybe he can go write high-brow for SNL.



No offense to the writers there, but wouldn't this be a huge step backwards for his career if he did?*















*the answer is of course, yes.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Christina on December 06, 2009, 11:12:50 PM

No offense to the writers there, but wouldn't this be a huge step backwards for his career if he d

*the answer is of course, yes.

Yep, and that's not even a suck up to Tom. That's just reality. Tom's beyond that life.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: colonel panic on December 07, 2009, 09:20:33 AM
ICP:

See them once, you're curious.
See them twice, you're a juggalo.

(credit to Jerrik)
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: namethebats on December 07, 2009, 03:32:33 PM

No offense to the writers there, but wouldn't this be a huge step backwards for his career if he d

*the answer is of course, yes.

Yep, and that's not even a suck up to Tom. That's just reality. Tom's beyond that life.

Also, on Tuesdays the SNL writers pull an all-nighter.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Christina on December 07, 2009, 05:07:16 PM

No offense to the writers there, but wouldn't this be a huge step backwards for his career if he d

*the answer is of course, yes.

Yep, and that's not even a suck up to Tom. That's just reality. Tom's beyond that life.

Also, on Tuesdays the SNL writers pull an all-nighter.

That's what I mean. It's like being on a treadmill set to "haul ass" 24/7.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: eastgrandforks on December 07, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
If the writers are fans of the Best Show, then why didn't the Gossip Girl: Staten Island sketch include references to Sedutto's, Hylan Blvd., The Lemon Tree, Jim Hanley's, etc?
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: Kid Pain on December 08, 2009, 02:29:55 PM
it's fair to say the gathering infomercial took the internet by storm.
Title: Re: Did the 12/5 SNL rip off the Best Show?
Post by: scratchbomb on December 09, 2009, 02:02:02 PM
Tom/PFT > SNL

I enjoyed Gunt because I could imagine the guys in Gunt high-fiving each other over how great their name is.

Here's what puzzles me: there are so many incredibly talented people on SNL (on screen and in the writing room). Why is it so meh? I know what Bob O says and that seems clear to me, but, even so, shouldn't it at least be a little bit better? I laugh more at Harold night at the UCB and I'm not that big into Improv.

Two reasons, I think:

1) It's recurring character-driven. They're always looking for the next Water Cooler Hit.

2) They have to write to the comedic talents (or lack thereof) of whoever's hosting that week.