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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Andy on March 05, 2007, 06:37:41 PM
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I am a huge adult swim fan from way back, but some of this new stuff just seems to be over the top weird and not funny at all. Saul of the Mole Men? I'm not feeling it.
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These 30 something kids these days with their ironic nostalgia for H.R. Puffenstuff and Lidsville or whatever pop culture TV gyarbage from the 70's. Mr. Show already parodied it to perfection with that Druggachusetts sketch. Fucking generation x.
And Tim and Eric seem to be riding the weird for weird sake wave that's been permeating Adult Swim of late. Sometimes it works and sometimes you get things like the last episode. That whole show is like Wonder Showzen lite. Whatver.
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Yeah, I've only really seen it since I moved to the US so I just assumed it had always been shit.
I like Aquateen but that's about it.
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I wasn't going to jump on the new Tim and Eric show because I know they're friend of the show, but I haven't been impressed.
I loved Tom Goes to the Mayor, though. Sorry to hear that it's done.
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I'm gonna catch Tim and Eric tomorrow, they're doing a live show in L.A. I'm curious to see what it'll be like live and in person. I feel like I missed the whole Wondershowzen era 'cause I didn't have cable for the two years it was on or whatever. Lame. My band played with PFFFR once (the same people) and their show was really offensive but they were actually the most level headed and cool people at an otherwise drug-infested scene of decadence and idiocy.
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The only shows I ever really liked were "Aqua Teen" and "Tom Goes to the Mayor", even when I would watch the other ones occasionally. Pretty much all of the shows on the original line-up had moments. Haven't really kept up with it since I bought the "Home Movies" DVD's and could stop relying on their re-runs.
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I actually think Adult Swim is going through a pretty good period at the moment with some great shows, many shows that may not be appointment television but are at least watchable and only one or two that are terrible.
Here's my easy to read consumer guide of current Adult Swim shows for those not in the know:
Must see:
Tim and Eric Awesome Show
The Venture Brothers (will be back in 2008)
Aqua Teen Hunger Force
Worth watching (if, you know, you're at home and there's nothing else on you really want to watch):
Moral Orel
Metalocalypse
Saul of the Molemen
Frisky Dingo
Squidbillies
Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law
Futurama
Robot Chicken
Probably shouldn't bother (though you may get a chuckle or two):
Family Guy
Assy McGee
The Boondocks
The Smoking Gun
I reserve the right to change my mind about any of these. Or have it changed for me.
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Season 1 of Sealab 2021 was frickin' hilarious. It's weird how bad it got after that season.
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Season 1 of Sealab 2021 was frickin' hilarious. It's weird how bad it got after that season.
I was about to refute you and say that Seasons 2, 3 and 4 were pretty good but after looking at an episode list I realized that all the episodes I remembered fondly were from Season 1. I guess the subsequent ones had their moment though with the show really going downhill after the death of the guy who voiced Captain Murphy.
Season 1 produced one of my favorite exchanges in TV history:
Marco: Well, Debbie thinks this is all about her biological clock.
Stormy: She stopped screaming enough to tell you that?
Marco: No no no no, the other Debbie. Debbie the teacher.
Stormy: Oh, you mean... black Debbie.
Sparks: Woah woah woah, why is she... black Debbie?
Stormy: Not in a bad way, it's just to tell them apart because she's... black.
Sparks: Well, why don't you call her Debbie, and call the other one... white Debbie.
Stormy: White Debbie? That's stupid! I know she's white.
Marco: Then why do you call the other Debbie "black Debbie?" You know she's black!
Stormy: Hey, first off, I really don't think we should be talking about this in front of Dr. Quinn.
Quinn: Listen man, you're missing the point. What if everybody went around calling you "white Stormy?"
Stormy: You mean there's a black Stormy?
Quinn: ... No.
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For some reason, going to timanderic.com greatly enhances the pleasure of the show. You get a truer sense of their comedy. I can't get enough of anything Tim and Eric.
Awesome show is far superior to TGTTM.
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Robot Chicken is pure and total genius. Stupid, but genius.
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Saul of the Moleman is actually pretty good, but I was disappointed in Brendon Small's new show.
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Saul of the Moleman is actually pretty good, but I was disappointed in Brendon Small's new show.
I don't think Brendon Small could have diverted any more from the pace of Home Movies like he did with Metalocalypse. This show did not do it for me in the least. TGTTM is pretty good and I have yet to check Tim & Eric Awesome Show, Great Job. Apart from the Seth MacFarlane gyarbage and random animes, there have just been too many weird shows lately.
I feel that the Adult Swim lineup has been too accommodating to Georgia's meth addicts lately.
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I feel that the Adult Swim lineup has been too accommodating to Georgia's meth addicts lately.
Haha.
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Someone sent me this deranged clip from Aquateen this week and it is nuts. I haven't had cable since September so I'm completely out of the loop on the latest eps. [youtube=425,350]FV7_OIt7m30[/youtube]
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Yeah, that one is disturbing. Having a genetically-engineered dog spring from Shake's hand and then spend the rest of the episode raping Carl was one thing, but then having Carl genetically-engineer a dog from himself and order it to rape the other dog and having it turn around and rape Carl instead...
Those of you who remember, say, "Happy Days" or "Mr. Belvedere" as America's #1 show - did you ever think there'd be a TV episode with that description?
Again, though, nothing bothers me much anymore since the Internet killed my sense of moral outrage back in about 1996.
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I've got to see the rest of that immediately.
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full on handbanana here:
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/aqua%2520teen/video/xkpd5_aqua-teen-hunger-force-hand-banana (http://www.dailymotion.com/search/aqua%2520teen/video/xkpd5_aqua-teen-hunger-force-hand-banana)
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full on handbanana here:
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/aqua%2520teen/video/xkpd5_aqua-teen-hunger-force-hand-banana (http://www.dailymotion.com/search/aqua%2520teen/video/xkpd5_aqua-teen-hunger-force-hand-banana)
You don't see that every day...
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Again, though, nothing bothers me much anymore since the Internet killed my sense of moral outrage back in about 1996.
Just out of curiosity, how specifically.
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ATHF really lost me a couple of seasons ago when they started going through the gross out mode (the raw chicken baseball?)
I'm back now, but this season has been weird.
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Richard,
I think I mentioned this in another thread. Several things happened:
#1 - the very first two things I saw on the Internet back in 1994 (I think on the old alt.2600 board; I had no idea what the Usenet was) were a treatise on how to catheterize yourself for sexual pleasure and a gang-bang fan-fiction about the Smurfs. I reacted with some level of horror, then - now, appalling pterodactyl-themed pornography barely makes me take notice.
#2 - the online cartoon SpaceMoose, where, among other things, the main character uses a time machine to go back in time to sodomize himself. For some reason, this one - http://erf.sh/spacemoose/episodei.htm (http://erf.sh/spacemoose/episodei.htm) - from later in the run may have finally done the job.
At any rate, thanks, Internet!
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'surprised there's not more Venture Bros. love (come on, I know someone out here on the board has a Dr. Orpheus screen pic). Really quality writing, and definitely not weird for weird's sake.
I agree with Pride of Staten's must-see's, and I'm curious about people's take on the last 7 or 8 episodes of ATHF. I don't tend to be too critical, but i thought they were awfully unfunny. Other than those i never did much comparing from season to season, thought they were all good fun.
I can't imagine anyone comparing this last batch favorably to Tim and Eric's stuff.
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'surprised there's not more Venture Bros. love (come on, I know someone out here on the board has a Dr. Orpheus screen pic). Really quality writing, and definitely not weird for weird's sake.
That would be me. I love the Venture Brothers but I dont have cable so I usually have ot d/l the episodes the enxt day. The Klaus Nomi, Iggy Pop, and David Bowie bit was just hysterical.
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I agree with Pride of Staten's must-see's, and I'm curious about people's take on the last 7 or 8 episodes of ATHF. I don't tend to be too critical, but i thought they were awfully unfunny.
I hated ATHF first few times I saw it (over holidays. My father and little brother are crazy about it.)
But I went through every episode recently, and I love the show immensely.
Part of the enjoyment came when I started reading the ATHF as outcroppings of the Lovecraftian universe. The "monsters" are like Old Ones, but zany. And maybe that's what Lovecraft needed: more zaniness! What's scarier than monsters? Monster's with random, unmotivated humor (like the onion-spider and his JUICE or the dimwitted aliens.) There's also something to be said about the consistent use of "the industrial world" as gags: for example, Shake with his back hoes/burning tires, Frylock's cloning experiments and naive scientism/modernism. I also think it's neat that Meatwad sort of 'grows up" and has switched affinity from Frylock to Shake (who now seems to like Meatwad.)
Whenever I try to describe ATHF to someone, I say that it's a cartoon about hell. And I think that that's the point or at least the frame of reference (if you can find one in their universe.) I laugh my ass off at most every episode, but feel really gross afterwards too (like the one where Shake eats the "cherry pie" in the bathtub.)
Just some random thoughts.
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onion monster has a really familiar voice, I just can't place it.
I love the old ATHF. Like all good comedy, you can watch it over and over and pick up different stuff each time.
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onion monster has a really familiar voice, I just can't place it.
I love the old ATHF. Like all good comedy, you can watch it over and over and pick up different stuff each time.
That monster's name is Willie Nelson.
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That monster's name is Willie Nelson.
I think maybe Willie Nelson did the voice, also.
maybe Dwight Yoakum.
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Moral Orel is all done (it even had a happy ending of sorts). I didn't watch it religiously (ha), but it was a good fall-back show when I was in the mood. I'm sorry to see it go.
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The Mighty Boosh is coming to Adult Swim in the new year, and that seems to polarize people. Resume debate!
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I'm interested in seeing it!
Adult swim IS just plain weird, but I think that's wonderful. God bless Comedy Central for giving shows a shot and letting them have (what appears to be) creative control over their stuff. I don't like most of the stuff but I think everyone can find one show that they absolutely adore without being able to explain. For me, Tom Goes To The Mayor is great, and ATHF, but Perfect Hair Forever is the best.
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Really? I'm the only one backing Frisky Dingo/X-Tacles as mandatory? That's just bizarre.
I also love Venture Bros. and record it every time it's on. I wish my son was just a few years older so I could watch it with him. He's 8 and I think some of the stuff is just too... Adult.
Here's a fun little bit of trivia about yours truly: When I was in high school I was a lousy student. Terrible. How bad? So bad that for 4 years of high school I went to 4 years of summer school. Yep, even after senior year. Made my mom soooo proud.
Anyhow, in the summer of 1984, between 9th and 10th grades, I was (rightfully) grounded for managing to fail 2 classes that I had no business failing at all. So I had no social life until I passed the two courses in summer school, around the middle of August.
The only social outlet my parents allowed me, (I'm not making this up. I swear to you.), was to be in a community theater production of 1776, the Revolutionary War-themed musical. It was staged in the auditorium/gymnasium behind The Church of the Precious Blood in the tiny town where I grew up, Monmouth Beach, NJ.
I only remember who two of the characters were played by, and I don't even really remember their names. I think I had about 3 lines in the whole thing. But, one of the actors, playing I don't remember whom, was James Ubaniak, the voice of Dr. Venture, as well as many other characters of the screens both silver and small.
Choke on that, internet weenies.
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I also love Venture Bros. and record it every time it's on.
Venture Bros. is easily the greatest thing Adult Swim has produced, although the most recent season wasn't quite as great. I haven't seen many of the newer Aqua Teen episodes but the first couple seasons are really great. Other than those two, Tim and Eric is the only program I watch on a regular basis; Metalocalypse has been pretty funny the few episodes I've seen but I haven't gotten into any of the new shows.