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Title: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: DS1077 on January 11, 2010, 07:05:12 PM
This was already discussed a little in the thread about The Onion AV Club's best comedy albums of the decade, but.  I'm thinking I finally need to invest in either Patton Oswalt's "222" or "Feelin' Kinda Patton".  I know that "222" is the longer set, but I've also heard that it's formatted as just one long track per cd rather than being separated, and have heard mixed reports about the additional material.  Y'all seem like people who would know: which version do you prefer?  Is the unedited set worth seeking out?
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: Stupornaut on January 11, 2010, 07:55:53 PM
I'm something like 95% sure that a couple of my all-time favorite Patton bits (like the bitter Irish tour bus guide) appear on 222 but not Feelin' Kinda Patton, which is a good reason to pick up the former.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: JustSheaNo on January 11, 2010, 08:34:43 PM
We really enjoy 222 in this house, but we are insane complete-ists here.  if you do decide to buy 222, may I suggest also checking out the following EP's

Zach vs. Patton vs. Alcohol

The Pennsylvania Macaroni Company

In fact, over at Chunklet (http://chunklet.com/store/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=83), you can get them all in a three-pak for 19.99.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: not that clay on January 11, 2010, 08:45:48 PM
Definitely 222. It's his best.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: DS1077 on January 11, 2010, 08:47:07 PM
Yeah, I just saw the three pack and I think that's what's gonna sway me.  Thanks y'all.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: masterofsparks on January 11, 2010, 09:24:29 PM
I haven't heard Feelin' Kinda Patton to compare, but I can't see why you wouldn't want to have the whole set. It is, unfortunately, formatted as one single track per disc, but you can easily fix this yourself with a minimum amount of effort.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: DS1077 on January 11, 2010, 11:01:45 PM
Minimum effort?  That's my favorite kind of effort!
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: chuck from cedar rapids on January 12, 2010, 11:18:01 AM
You can't go wrong with either choice. "Feelin' Kind of Patton" is definitely the cream of the crop, but "222" feels like an organic show and is completely enjoyable. "222" has early versions of material that appears on "Werewolves and Lollypops".

What did you guys think of "My Weakness is Strong"? It's a great album and showcases a little bit more mature side of Patton. It's actually been nominated for a Grammy.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: Reeleyes on January 12, 2010, 04:41:18 PM
222 all the way. Although Werewolves and Lollypops is his best work in my opinion.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: ChrisRawk on January 13, 2010, 09:56:16 AM
Both of them are interesting listening experiences.  'Feeling...' is much tighter as an album but '222' really has to be heard.  It's like a great director's cut to a great movie.  Plus, as it's been mentioned, it's got early versions of jokes heard later. 

'Werewolves and Lolipops' is easily his best work, though.  It's got all my favorite jokes of his.  KFC, the Shatner story, the Lucas/prequels joke, etc.   

I still haven't checked out his EPs and I need to. 
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: not that clay on January 13, 2010, 12:28:57 PM
Was anyone else slightly bummed out by Patton's new album?
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: Barry Egan on January 13, 2010, 01:35:57 PM
Was anyone else slightly bummed out by Patton's new album?

No, I thought it was by far his best. 
Frankly it was PFT's new album that disappointed me somewhat, at least compared to his previous one.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 13, 2010, 01:47:30 PM
Was anyone else slightly bummed out by Patton's new album?

No, I thought it was by far his best. 


One of my favorite comedy albums ever.  I think the hawk/rat story borders on Raymond Carver-quality storytelling.  And the same can be said about the angry magician bit.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: ChrisRawk on January 13, 2010, 03:05:29 PM
Was anyone else slightly bummed out by Patton's new album?

Not really bummed but I do prefer 'Werewolves and Lolipops'.  If simply made me laugh more then the new one.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: akaJudge on January 13, 2010, 03:27:13 PM
"bummed out" might be extreme, but slightly disappointed wouldn't be inaccurate.  i thought it was a big mistake to play the comedy central special the sunday before the cd was released.  I would have bought it if I hadn't heard it first.  I hate to even say this stuff, because Patton is one of the sharpest, funniest comedians ever.  I have both "feelin' kinda patton" and "222", plus all the EPs.  I got the Robert Evans audio book for christmas, just because he said it was funny!
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: DS1077 on January 14, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
Yeah, I'll confess to being a tiny bit underwhelmed by his latest, but with a few caveats.
1. I only saw the Comedy Central edit, so I haven't heard the full set yet.
2. Even if it wasn't his absolute best (I'm siding with "Werewolves" for now, although my "222" arrived today) the guy's still scaling heights most other comedians aren't anywhere near.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: Stupornaut on January 14, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
Agreed. "Mediocre" Patton > 98% of anyone else at the top of their game.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: todd on January 14, 2010, 03:39:03 PM
Stand-up seems like one of those art forms where to be truly great at it, most comics have to be dedicate all of their time to it. Patton put out a good album while doing a million other things. So even if it didn't live up to his other work, it's still impressive.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: DJ Clem on January 14, 2010, 05:18:35 PM
You really oughtn't base your opinion of MWIS on the Comedy Central edit. I was really disappointed when it aired. I've since bought the DVD/CD combo and it's become one of my favorites. The Rats/July 3rd and Orgy bits are pretty much worth the price of admission alone--neither of which made the CC show.

Oh, Fucksquatch...what secrets do you hide?
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: TacoSmith on January 14, 2010, 07:47:49 PM
You really oughtn't base your opinion of MWIS on the Comedy Central edit. I was really disappointed when it aired. I've since bought the DVD/CD combo and it's become one of my favorites. The Rats/July 3rd and Orgy bits are pretty much worth the price of admission alone--neither of which made the CC show.

Oh, Fucksquatch...what secrets do you hide?
What this guy said.

"This kid had craigslist hook-up written all over him."
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: Reeleyes on January 14, 2010, 09:09:29 PM
You really oughtn't base your opinion of MWIS on the Comedy Central edit. I was really disappointed when it aired. I've since bought the DVD/CD combo and it's become one of my favorites. The Rats/July 3rd and Orgy bits are pretty much worth the price of admission alone--neither of which made the CC show.

Oh, Fucksquatch...what secrets do you hide?
What this guy said.

"This kid had craigslist hook-up written all over him."

Tw#t mist... too funny.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: akaJudge on January 15, 2010, 03:02:55 PM
You really oughtn't base your opinion of MWIS on the Comedy Central edit. I was really disappointed when it aired. I've since bought the DVD/CD combo and it's become one of my favorites. The Rats/July 3rd and Orgy bits are pretty much worth the price of admission alone--neither of which made the CC show.

Oh, Fucksquatch...what secrets do you hide?

Fair enough.  I'll listen to the whole thing this weekend.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on January 15, 2010, 03:23:20 PM
personally, i've been listening to 222 almost non stop for weeks.  when FKP came out, i did the same, yet somehow i find myself retreating back to the original(s) instead of listening to  Werewolves or My Will.  likely, i will listen to those moreso in the years to come as newer albums are released.

i love the EPs and i love both original CDs, especially since most other comedians drunk, let alone sober, don't fair well.  in his case, it plays to his advantage. 

Hilarious.
Title: Re: Advise: "222" vs "Feelin' Kinda Patton"
Post by: wwwes on January 16, 2010, 01:52:46 PM
You really oughtn't base your opinion of MWIS on the Comedy Central edit. I was really disappointed when it aired. I've since bought the DVD/CD combo and it's become one of my favorites. The Rats/July 3rd and Orgy bits are pretty much worth the price of admission alone--neither of which made the CC show.

Oh, Fucksquatch...what secrets do you hide?

I didn't even know those bits weren't on the special. Knowing that, I will also chime in and say that if you haven't seen/heard the unexpurgated version, you haven't been exposed to the two most brilliant moments on that album.

Of course, nothing beats seeing Patton live. I got to see him twice in Atlanta, but down in Tampa/Sarasota, I don't know if I'll be so lucky again.