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Title: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: wood and iron on February 14, 2010, 11:31:43 AM
Recently, Kevin Smith was kicked off a Southwestern flight by the pilot for being too fat and a "safety risk" to the flight. He let loose on his twitter.

http://twitter.com/thatkevinsmith
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Matt C on February 14, 2010, 12:09:11 PM
At first I thought the Pilot was out of line then I saw a (sorta) recent photo of Smith and thought differently.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: wood and iron on February 14, 2010, 12:15:29 PM
Yeah, he's definitely encroaching on the "morbid" end of the obesity scale.

I think the weird thing is that they waited until he was seated, the plane was ready for takeoff, and then the pilot kicks him off. The people at the ticket counter and boarding ramp have eyes, they can see a large man who might not be able to fit in the seats. Why wait until they kick him off in front of everybody?
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on February 14, 2010, 12:24:51 PM
Well, he could've gone two ways with this; come out first on twitter all outraged, using terms like "fatist airline" or waited for tmz to come out with the "story."

In any case, this fat nation of ours (I am a US citizen*, despite my name on here) is getting out of hand. Right at this very moment I am watching (because that's what's on one of the TVs at work at the moment) that dude who does those "eating challenges," stuffing his face until he becomes physically ill at fast food dives.

*(I am no skinnybones myself, for the record... but not some big blob).
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on February 14, 2010, 01:13:35 PM


http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/14/kevin-smith-southwest-airlines-twitter-safety-risk-fat/
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Matt on February 14, 2010, 01:45:47 PM
In any case, this fat nation of ours (I am a US citizen*, despite my name on here) is getting out of hand. Right at this very moment I am watching (because that's what's on one of the TVs at work at the moment) that dude who does those "eating challenges," stuffing his face until he becomes physically ill at fast food dives.

It goes to show how completely fucked up America's frame of reference is when the most devastating Supreme Court decision in recent history is met with nary a peep of public protest, and yet people cry "Nanny state!" when the government attempts to curb childhood obesity.

You know, not to get topical or nuthin'.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: wood and iron on February 14, 2010, 02:59:06 PM
Matt From Helsinki:

I agree about how ridiculous our nation has become with regards to weight. And I'm not saying Southwest is beyond their bounds to stop people who can't fit comfortably from flying, they're a private company and they have that right. I think the way they went about it seems suspect and arbitrary, the latter being the more condemning.

I worked at Knoebels Amusement Park for the past two summers at the world renowned Phoenix wooden roller coaster. This thing was made in the 70's so the seats are designed for the average American of the time. I see people coming up the ramp and I dread having to be the one to check their lap bars as I have to do one of two things: 1) push really hard so the lap bar can snap into place and lock, which turns it into a spectacle and I feel like a monster or 2) I have to tell men or women that they can't fit and they have to get off and I feel like a monster. I feel bad and have actually have had a number of women cry (not from an insensitivity on my part, but the situation in general). But then I think harder and realize, they are in control of their weight. I'm overweight but I know it's because I don't eat correctly or exercise nearly enough. I try to change that but it's hard, so I'm sympathetic in that regard but if you don't take personal responsibility then no one can help you.

I see this as no different than when we have to turn away people with certain disabilities from the ride. If you don't have at least one leg, you have a very real possibility of falling out of the car, and thus we don't let you ride. If you can't fit into the car and the lap bar won't close properly without being cocked at a suspicious angle, we can't let you ride.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Dan in Chicago on February 14, 2010, 04:33:13 PM
Obesity is the ultimate celebration of capitalism, so with Kevin Smith devouring all those pizzas during hockey games comes the risk of another celebration of capitalism, refusing service. So they are both in the right, or maybe both in the wrong. Your call.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: not that clay on February 14, 2010, 07:38:39 PM


http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/14/kevin-smith-southwest-airlines-twitter-safety-risk-fat/

Southwest's policy actually sounds pretty reasonable.  The 2nd seat is free if the flight doesn't fill up.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: erechoveraker on February 14, 2010, 07:40:50 PM
I had no idea he was directing Cop Out until I saw the link to his twitter page.


That's all I have to say about this.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Reeleyes on February 14, 2010, 08:00:14 PM
Hey, leave the poor guy alone. If you had Jersey Girl in you list of credits wouldn't you try to eat yourself to death too?
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Dan in Chicago on February 14, 2010, 08:07:01 PM
Hey, leave the poor guy alone. If you had Jersey Girl in you list of credits wouldn't you try to eat yourself to death too?

Well I'm sure he got some small solace from having Will Smith in it.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: fletcher munson on February 15, 2010, 12:15:01 AM
Hey, leave the poor guy alone. If you had Jersey Girl in you list of credits wouldn't you try to eat yourself to death too?

I'd try to eat my own face.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Chris L on February 15, 2010, 12:29:09 AM
He actually got off lucky, since I'm pretty sure every ad for Cop Out constitutes a bomb threat.  (NICKKI FIINKE, ARE U READING THIS????)
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: AllisonLeGnome on February 15, 2010, 01:02:40 AM
Based on what I saw, didn't he say he originally had purchased two tickets for a different flight, meaning he knew it would be necessary?
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Martin on February 15, 2010, 07:27:13 AM
Just saw this reported in a Swedish tabloid. Smith is not a household name here, but still, the headline was pretty weird:

'DIE HARD' STAR TOO FAT TO FLY
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: buffcoat on February 15, 2010, 09:38:47 AM
Just saw this reported in a Swedish tabloid. Smith is not a household name here, but still, the headline was pretty weird:

'DIE HARD' STAR TOO FAT TO FLY


I will not laugh at anything else today as hard as I laughed at this.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on February 15, 2010, 09:49:09 AM
This is the pic from said tabloid swedish newspaper... Is it recent? Black is slimming.

(http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/multimedia/archive/01135/Kevin-Smith_1135213w.jpg)
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Cotton on February 15, 2010, 11:55:21 AM
please, people. The pc term is "tub of goo".
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: gravy boat on February 15, 2010, 02:13:00 PM
Yes, I read that he bought the two tickets for an another flight; then tried to take the one he was kicked off of.  He knew the deal. I also heard a rumor, unconfirmed, that the trouble really began when he took off his shoes to clench and unclench his toes to help with flying anxiety and other people took offense. 

 
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: cutout on February 15, 2010, 10:48:34 PM
Kevin Smith: 'I broke a toilet'

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/02/kevin-smith.html

Is this the best week ever for schadenfreude or what?
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Trembling Eagle on February 15, 2010, 11:13:25 PM
damn man
he used to just be chubby.


I hope he gets that under control.
With his money there is no excuse.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 16, 2010, 03:19:51 AM
He admitted to breaking a toilet in an interview he did around the time that porno movie came out.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Christina on February 16, 2010, 06:02:30 AM
Gotta admit, I feel bad for the guy that this happened, but along with what TE is saying, he's got to pull himself together, b/c as he was always sorta heavy,somewhere along the line recently he's gotten REALLY heavy. This ain't going anywhere good.

Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 16, 2010, 06:04:13 AM
I bet hes gotten fatter because he recently took up smoking pot.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Dan in Chicago on February 16, 2010, 06:19:57 AM
The man does write comics, and not everyone in that industry has Matt Fraction's rugged looks, or Grant Morrison's super skinny bald looks. But yeah, I don't think we will be seeing any cameos in his movies anytime soon.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: senorcorazon on February 16, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
I bet hes gotten fatter because he recently took up smoking pot.

I'm going to make the shocking prediction that he didn't "recently" start smoking weed.

Also, I'm going to guess that he was a complete gentleman on the flight.

Finally, this story needs to go away.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Pat K on February 16, 2010, 09:38:08 AM
I had no idea he was directing Cop Out until I saw the link to his twitter page.

Apparently, someone wisely changed the title from Smith's painfully unfunny original title: "A Couple Of Dicks"*, which I think I actually heard about when he was on the Mike Show. 

Seriously, though: Southwest should stop discriminating against obese people, so that Kevin Smith can get back to making movies that make crass fun of women, gays, and the disabled.


* (Get it? The word 'detectives' is sometimes truncated to just 'dicks'. In a humorous coincidence, this also happens to be an obscene slang term. Do you get it?)
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Pat K on February 16, 2010, 09:47:35 AM
(Also, incidentally, I am built like a fucking Greek god.)
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Smelodies on February 16, 2010, 10:33:53 AM

Seriously, though: Southwest should stop discriminating against obese people, so that Kevin Smith can get back to making movies that make crass fun of women, gays, and the disabled.
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Comedians are supposed to make fun of people and things, and airlines are supposed to fly people to their destinations.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Smelodies on February 16, 2010, 10:34:28 AM
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Seriously, though: Southwest should stop discriminating against obese people, so that Kevin Smith can get back to making movies that make crass fun of women, gays, and the disabled.

Comedians are supposed to make fun of people and things, and airlines are supposed to fly people to their destinations.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: buffcoat on February 16, 2010, 11:01:48 AM
(Also, incidentally, I am built like a fucking Greek god.)


Which one?
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Pat K on February 16, 2010, 11:17:47 AM
Yes, I read that he bought the two tickets for an another flight; then tried to take the one he was kicked off of.  He knew the deal.

This is true. He's said before that he always buys 2 tickets, but he took a single seat on an earlier flight on standby in this case. After he was seated, he couldn't lower the armrests. He knows he can't fit into a single seat because that's why he buys 2 tickets the rest of the time, and the flight attendants called him on it. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

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Comedians are supposed to make fun of people and things dish it out but never take it, and airlines are supposed to fly people to their destinations.

Fixed, apparently.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Pat K on February 16, 2010, 11:20:41 AM
(Also, incidentally, I am built like a fucking Greek god.)

Which one?

One of the buff, hunky male ones that looks all-human, and isn't half-horse or satyr or some weird shit.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Matt C on February 16, 2010, 01:00:02 PM
The man does write comics, and not everyone in that industry has Matt Fraction's rugged looks, or Grant Morrison's super skinny bald looks. But yeah, I don't think we will be seeing any cameos in his movies anytime soon.


Uhhh, I call bullshit.  Everyone who works in comics is super hot.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: wood and iron on February 16, 2010, 04:00:59 PM
The man does write comics, and not everyone in that industry has Matt Fraction's rugged looks, or Grant Morrison's super skinny bald looks. But yeah, I don't think we will be seeing any cameos in his movies anytime soon.


Uhhh, I call bullshit.  Everyone who works in comics is super hot.

Bill Gaines could turn a straight man gay.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Kid Pain on February 16, 2010, 05:44:02 PM
If there's one thing that's hilarious, its policemen dragging someone handcuffed to a bumper.


*I managed to be offended by this BEFORE i realized kevin smith was involved with Cop Out.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 16, 2010, 06:23:05 PM
I bet hes gotten fatter because he recently took up smoking pot.

I'm going to make the shocking prediction that he didn't "recently" start smoking weed.

Also, I'm going to guess that he was a complete gentleman on the flight.

Finally, this story needs to go away.


Yeah he has talked about it a lot on other radio shows that he appears on, he said he had really never smoked weed until a couple years ago aside from just trying it once or twice. The way he talked he was all about it now.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 16, 2010, 06:26:08 PM
Yes, I read that he bought the two tickets for an another flight; then tried to take the one he was kicked off of.  He knew the deal.

This is true. He's said before that he always buys 2 tickets, but he took a single seat on an earlier flight on standby in this case. After he was seated, he couldn't lower the armrests. He knows he can't fit into a single seat because that's why he buys 2 tickets the rest of the time, and the flight attendants called him on it. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

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Comedians are supposed to make fun of people and things dish it out but never take it, and airlines are supposed to fly people to their destinations.

Fixed, apparently.


Always a bad sign when a comedian cant take a joke on themselves.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 16, 2010, 08:18:51 PM
I had no idea he was directing Cop Out until I saw the link to his twitter page.

Apparently, someone wisely changed the title from Smith's painfully unfunny original title: "A Couple Of Dicks"*, which I think I actually heard about when he was on the Mike Show.  

Seriously, though: Southwest should stop discriminating against obese people, so that Kevin Smith can get back to making movies that make crass fun of women, gays, and the disabled.


* (Get it? The word 'detectives' is sometimes truncated to just 'dicks'. In a humorous coincidence, this also happens to be an obscene slang term. Do you get it?)


As with most of his movies this one doesn't look that great. It might be worth watching for Tracy Morgan but did they really just have a "copy cat" bit in the trailer uhh? A Couple of Dicks is what he originally wanted to call it but the politically correct studio executives made him change it.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Reeleyes on February 16, 2010, 10:53:14 PM
Starring in a movie with Bruce Willis seems to mean you're an actor on the rise. Directing a movie with Bruce Willis seems to mean you're a director on a decline.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Bryan on February 17, 2010, 09:10:14 AM
Much like the recent film The White Ribbon, everyone must bear the burden of guilt in this story.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith: Fat, Man
Post by: Pat K on February 17, 2010, 12:46:45 PM
Much like the recent film The White Ribbon, everyone must bear the burden of guilt in this story.

Bryan bringing both the Wisdom of Solomon, and the LOLs.