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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Matthew_S on March 17, 2010, 09:30:59 PM
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No real reason for this one, other than curiosity after hearing one of the Battleship Pretension guys proclaim Pixar's 2 masterpieces to be The Incredibles and Finding Nemo
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Never seen one! HA!
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I've never seen Finding Nemo, for some reason. This one was really hard - I've seen all of the others and Cars is the only one I didn't like. The Incredibles is definitely my favorite and I chose Toy Story 2 for the other (in spite of that awful Sarah McLachlan interlude).
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I didn't really like the last four all that much (sorry Patton fans), and I've never seen Finding Nemo or Monsters Inc. So I guess my choices are limited...if you could vote for the first half of Wall-E that'd be my top pick but I have to agree with MOS -- Toy Story 2 and The Incredibles.
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I only liked Wall-E
The "gutsy" length of no dialog at the start, and the witty societal commentary (both obvious and between the lines) both were enough to put it ahead of the heap for me, along with the fantastic production values.
They were all "well made" or whatever, but they're all just so zany and colorful and don't appeal to me. Wall-E exercised a little more restraint than the rest.
I wish "9" was on this list though (yes I know it wasn't a pixar)
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Wall-E is hippy propaganda and The Incredibles is a paean to Nazi supermen.
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Wall-E is hippy propaganda and The Incredibles is a paean to Nazi supermen.
And Cars is Detroit/Big Oil propaganda.
But Toy Story 1 and 2 are the best for me.
Someone derided the Sarah McLachlan interlude and all I can say is I still get all weepy even if I think about that thing. I guess those who don't like it either don't have kids or don't have hearts. :'(
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Wall-E is hippy propaganda and The Incredibles is a paean to Nazi supermen.
And Cars is Detroit/Big Oil propaganda.
Finding Nemo was made solely to breed Cthulhu worship.
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Someone derided the Sarah McLachlan interlude and all I can say is I still get all weepy even if I think about that thing. I guess those who don't like it either don't have kids or don't have hearts. :'(
That was me. I guess I don't have a problem with the interlude itself, just the song. The images are powerful enough to work without having a syrupy song thrown on top. Pixar is normally very good about not spoon-feeding the audience - I'd call the inclusion of the song a rare mis-step.
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Cars is the only one I dislike.
1. Toy Story
2. Monsters Inc.
3. Toy Story 2
4. Wall-E
5. Ratatouille
6. The Incredibles
7. Up
8. Finding Nemo
9. A Bug's Life
10. Cars
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Wall-E is hippy propaganda and The Incredibles is a paean to Nazi supermen.
I don't think Y/N is kidding and I don't think he's wrong-- The Incredibles -- great entertaining movie -- does have that creepy core Ayn Rand concept of "superior" people deserving more from life than the normals.
I vote for Monsters Inc. Mainly because my kids get a kick out of screaming "2319! 2319!" and tackling me.
A Bug's Life is at my bottom.
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Wall-E is hippy propaganda and The Incredibles is a paean to Nazi supermen.
And Cars is Detroit/Big Oil propaganda.
But Toy Story 1 and 2 are the best for me.
Toy Story 1 and 2 = Big Toy propaganda.
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Monsters Inc. is currently rebranding itself after reciving federal bailout money.
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Wall-E is hippy propaganda and The Incredibles is a paean to Nazi supermen.
And Cars is Detroit/Big Oil propaganda.
But Toy Story 1 and 2 are the best for me.
Toy Story 1 and 2 = Big Toy propaganda.
UP was just a long-form infomercial for the Balloon Manufacturers Association of America.
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Wall-E is hippy propaganda and The Incredibles is a paean to Nazi supermen.
I don't think Y/N is kidding and I don't think he's wrong-- The Incredibles -- great entertaining movie -- does have that creepy core Ayn Rand concept of "superior" people deserving more from life than the normals.
And Wall-E is "fattist (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/2391531/WALL-Es-fattist-satire-angers-fat-pride-groups.html)."
Surprised to see Ratalouie so far down--I'd put it in the top three at least.
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I find Pixar movies pretty dull, overall. They seem like superior kids' movies - which is fine, except they're always treated as grown-up movies. I voted The Incredibles, just because I like superheroes.
I also find them visually dull. The amazing thing about animation is that you can do ANYTHING with it, and Pixar is mostly dedicated (like Disney) to recreating the real world as accurately as possible. I want animation to blow my mind!
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UP was just a long-form infomercial for the Balloon Manufacturers Association of America. Elegant Balloons.
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I am a sucker for all of them with the exception of Cars. Cars is loud and alienating. But to Bryan's point about Pixar movies really being targeted at adults, Cars seemed the least directed at adults...not a "superior kids' movie" at all. My kids might choose that as their favorite for all I know.
But as for animation blowing your mind, Bryan, I think Wall-E is pretty far from real life. The waltz scene in space between Wall-E and Eve was not something that could be done as beautifully without animation.
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What I don't really understand about Pixar's "vision" is how the same company that made the hit-you-over-the-head "modern-day consumerism and over consumption is BAAAAD for Mother Earth" in Wall-E, while in Cars, gas-powered automobiles have taken over the world and it's apparently a really cool thing. ???
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Sorry, JfM, but every time i think of the incredibles, i think of your family photo.
*i hope i'm remembering that correctly.
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The Toy Story films, because of Wallace Shawn and Don Rickles.
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UP was just a long-form infomercial for the Balloon Manufacturers Association of America. Elegant Balloons.
Midlake's "Baloon Maker" immediately came to mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdnKMSXgHaE
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I am a big Pixar fan, mostly because they won my heart with Toy Story. Toy Story is one of my favorite movies of all time.
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Sorry, JfM, but every time i think of the incredibles, i think of your family photo
*i hope i'm remembering that correctly.
Wow! Good memory. Yes, those were indeed our costumes at the Park Slope Halloween Parade about four years back.
That was impressive, IABVT!
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Up and Ratatouille. I haven't seen Wall-E or the Incredibles though. What is with grown-up friendly kid's movies and the stupid adolescent jokes they throw in that go just over a kids head but aren't funny enough to make an adult chuckle (except that one guy in the theater)? Can we get rid of those already? Especially the "almost swear". Did anybody ever think that was funny?
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What I don't really understand about Pixar's "vision" is how the same company that made the hit-you-over-the-head "modern-day consumerism and over consumption is BAAAAD for Mother Earth" in Wall-E, while in Cars, gas-powered automobiles have taken over the world and it's apparently a really cool thing. ???
They have different writers who wrote those screenplays, right? Different writer, different message?
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I don't think the message in Wall-E is really emphasized enough to complain about it. Most American films with environmental messages are just completely condescending, and I thought Wall-E was a welcome change.
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I don't think the message in Wall-E is really emphasized enough to complain about it. Most American films with environmental messages are just completely condescending, and I thought Wall-E was a welcome change.
Wall-E had robots. That's all I care about.
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I don't think the message in Wall-E is really emphasized enough to complain about it. Most American films with environmental messages are just completely condescending, and I thought Wall-E was a welcome change.
Wall-E had robouts. That's all I care about.