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Title: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: Keith Whitener on June 10, 2010, 04:14:09 PM
I am curious to know if any of you have ever had encounters with Amway or other Multi-Level-Marketing scams (or scams in general). And if any of you have access to Amway tapes, please PM me!
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Post by: Kim Kelly on June 10, 2010, 04:47:13 PM
Has anyone else seen the Amway commercials they've been running lately? Flim-flammery!
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: cavorting with nudists on June 10, 2010, 06:28:43 PM
These aren't exactly the training or self-motivation tapes that I think you're looking for, but if you have the stomach for it, here's Pat Boone entertaining at an Amway convention: http://www.wfmu.org/365/2003-02.shtml

(Go down a little more than halfway through the list. The first half is kind of Pat's "Okie from Muskogee" for lumpen tools; the second half is more specifically Amway-related)

And here's Paul Harvey's keynote address to another Amway convention: http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/2003/178.shtml


Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: thom on June 10, 2010, 07:53:53 PM
hooked up with this chickadee... her whole place was furnished by amway. everything in the shower was an amway product. i said: hey there's a fair amount of amway stuff here.
she says: my parents met through amway. i'm an amway baby. they make good vitamins.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: fonpr on June 10, 2010, 10:32:49 PM
I have an intro tape, somewhere.  It only mentioned Amway twice, each time as part of a list of successful companies.

Spell-check doesn't recognize Amway.  Excellent.

Neither shall I.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: Sarah on June 11, 2010, 06:25:12 AM
My cousin is married to an Amway rep (she also has five kids, whom [sorry, Andy] she home-schools).  I haven't talked to her for twenty or so years, though, so I think she might take it amiss if I contacted her for details about the racket.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: put_it_away on June 11, 2010, 09:18:52 AM
I've had several encounters with Amway. They always leave me feeling like I have just been molested.

One night when I was in grad school, I got a call at home from a random guy who I had barely met at work. He was very conversational, asking how I was doing, what I had going on that night. Really strange, since I didn't know him. He was around 50 years old, and I was 23 at the time, which made it even weirder.

Finally, he says, "You ever work much on the internet? I have a great opportunity for you." (This was in 1999).

I said, "Um...yeah. I am familiar with the internet."

He proceeds to explain this wonderful business opportunity where basically I would open my own web storefront and sell products. "Great, proven products," he said.

I asked him point blank, "Is this Amway?"

He said, "Yeah, I am affiliated with Amway."

I told him I wasn't interested and hung up the phone.

I've had two other encounters like that, except they were in public. I was shopping at Best Buy one time, noticed some guy watching me, and then he starts with the same thing. "You ever work on the internet?" They have some kind of canned speech.

I don't know what I do to attract these cretins, but they're out there, and they are scary.
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Post by: senorcorazon on June 11, 2010, 09:27:57 AM
My family got suckered a couple times by it when I was a kid. The weirdest part is indeed the mythology of the creator and the concepts of "success" and going "triple diamond" (I think that's the term) when you get enough other suckers underneath your pyramid. They sold a board game and we played it once as kids, and even that was lame. My Dad woke up when they took a group trip to the founders house and only the highest level people were allowed in. Something about standing in the desert being locked outside of a house made it clear for Dad.

One of my old housemates got suckered by a money gifting scheme that was supposed to be about women helping other women achieve their dreams. It seemed especially dirty -- oh you don't want to participate? Well, I guess you hate women and think they shouldn't be successful.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on June 11, 2010, 12:36:58 PM
My family got suckered a couple times by it when I was a kid.

mine too.  although, i don't remember it being for very long or very successful.  come to think, i remember amway products in our house and that's it.  i should ask my mom about it.
 

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It seemed especially dirty -- oh you don't want to participate? Well, I guess you hate women and think they shouldn't be successful.

this reminds me of the maria bamford bit when a lady at work tried to get her to join a cult.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: buffcoat on June 11, 2010, 05:31:15 PM
I prefer Trickstar products.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: Senator Gothman (D-OR) on June 11, 2010, 05:35:13 PM
No Amway, but I remember my parents involved in some Aloe-Vera products ... oh, I wouldn't call it a scam, but it was definitely some sort of shady pyramid deal. This would have been int he mid-70s, when ANYTHING went.

Oh, also Tupperware.
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on June 11, 2010, 07:04:17 PM
My mom still has a majority of her Tupperware collection.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: Sarah on June 12, 2010, 07:03:37 AM
There was a pyramid scheme in town about ten years ago that caught a lot of women in its web.  Some went to jail.  A friend of mine tried to get me to participate.  I did not.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: buffcoat on June 12, 2010, 09:19:27 PM
There was a pyramid scheme in town about ten years ago that caught a lot of women in its web.


And that Pyramid Scheme was named buffcoat.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: Sarah on June 13, 2010, 08:16:50 AM
I know some ladies who are really mad at you, sir.  Even though it was their own greedy fault that they fell for the con.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: LJ on June 13, 2010, 10:21:55 PM
hooked up with this chickadee... her whole place was furnished by amway. everything in the shower was an amway product. i said: hey there's a fair amount of amway stuff here.
she says: my parents met through amway. i'm an amway baby. they make good vitamins.
Amway Baby...The newest album from U2.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on June 15, 2010, 10:49:40 AM
i will say that since the internet, these scams have worsened.

*licking envelopes
*putting together CD cases
*some other ridiculous nonsense

i'd take tupperware or avon or some candle lady in my house any day.
Title: Re: Scams and Flams! (Does anyone have any Amway tapes?)
Post by: Keith Whitener on June 17, 2010, 12:31:08 AM
OR SELLING ENERGY DRINKS
http://hubpages.com/hub/Efusionefujion-Energy-Drink-MLM-Scam

(someone tried to get me into this at Rutgers)