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Title: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Pidgeon on December 02, 2010, 03:23:10 PM
Interesting.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1603034.php/Steve-Martin-audience-offered-full-refund-after-his-event-was-too-boring (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1603034.php/Steve-Martin-audience-offered-full-refund-after-his-event-was-too-boring)
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: yesno on December 02, 2010, 04:07:38 PM
"As for the Y's standard of excellence, it can't be that high because this is the second time I've appeared there."
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: snogrog on December 02, 2010, 09:06:03 PM
Why didn't he go with what works and play "Late for School" or any of his other banjo hits?
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: scratchbomb on December 03, 2010, 04:32:33 PM
I'm siding with Steve on this one. If you're a big enough fan of his to pay $50 to see him at the Y for something advertised as an interview, how do you not know he's a huge art guy now? And just wrote a novel that takes place in the art world? I'm not a big fan of banjos and books about Picasso, but this is not like Dylan suddenly going electric, either.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Martin on December 03, 2010, 04:43:34 PM
Agreed. They should've known better. Refunding the show is ridiculous.
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Post by: amiright?? on December 03, 2010, 06:29:13 PM
This would have never happened if they had just let George Strombolobouloys interview him again.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Senator Gothman (D-OR) on December 03, 2010, 07:13:42 PM
Every action this venue has initiated in this incident is deplorable.  Sick.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: fonpr on December 03, 2010, 07:20:46 PM
I'm not a big fan of banjos and books about Picasso.

Did you mean "and/or" rather than "and"?

I happen to like both.

You, my friend, are a weirdo.

Ask Spike!

Abstract-Expressionism was a CIA false ART movement, I think>
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: senorcorazon on December 04, 2010, 09:05:56 AM
Here's an interesting article written by someone who ACTUALLY went to the event:
http://emdashes.com/2010/12/more-on-martin-and-solomon-and.php (http://emdashes.com/2010/12/more-on-martin-and-solomon-and.php)

Love these comments:
"So two rich assholes put on a crappy interview for their wealthy
audience and someone’s monocle popped out.
Who give a shit?"
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: masterofsparks on December 04, 2010, 12:32:46 PM
http://thehairpin.com/2010/12/fmk-bill-murray-steve-martin-chevy-chase/ (http://thehairpin.com/2010/12/fmk-bill-murray-steve-martin-chevy-chase/)

Double K for Steve Martin. Ouch.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Sarah on December 04, 2010, 03:24:39 PM
I disagreed with their verdict.  Bill Murray ain't husband material, unless you want to be at least emotionally, if not physically, abused.  I would kill him, marry Steve Martin (who seems like a nice enough fellow, if a bit of a bore), and fuck (SNL-era) Chevy Chase. 

Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on December 04, 2010, 03:41:20 PM
Here's an interesting article written by someone who ACTUALLY went to the event:
http://emdashes.com/2010/12/more-on-martin-and-solomon-and.php (http://emdashes.com/2010/12/more-on-martin-and-solomon-and.php)

Love these comments:
"So two rich assholes put on a crappy interview for their wealthy
audience and someone’s monocle popped out.
Who give a shit?"


From the above blog:
"A woman took to the podium and introduced Martin and Solomon; at some point, referring to Martin's impressive variety of accomplishments, she called him a "Renaissance man." Solomon and Martin came out, and Solomon immediately expressed her opinion that, as he lacks any accomplishments in the sciences, designating Martin a "Renaissance man" was perhaps a bit much. Martin agreed and said something to the effect that Leonardo da Vinci set the standard of a Renaissance man to a degree that has hardly been met since."

Are we supposed to believe that this was a serious discussion? It sounds like one or both of them (the interviewer and Martin) are insane and/or incredibly narcissistic. I'm embarrassed for both of them.
This is the point where I would have RUN out. Bbut I wouldn't think of asking for a refund.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on December 04, 2010, 05:23:50 PM
I heard about the Abstract Expressionism as a CIA false art movement thing on Too Much Information, but it sounded more like the CIA made Abstract Expressionism their pick to sell the US to Europeans on the fence, rather that creating it or fabricating it. We should all be so lucky as to have the CIA get behind something we were going to do anyway and give us tons of money to do it in the interest of furthering their goals.

The thing about Reality TV as a plot to wipe out liberals in the entertainment industry was pretty interesting, too.

I'm not a big fan of banjos and books about Picasso.

Did you mean "and/or" rather than "and"?

I happen to like both.

You, my friend, are a weirdo.

Ask Spike!

Abstract-Expressionism was a CIA false ART movement, I think>
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: TacoSmith on December 04, 2010, 09:55:43 PM
...and fuck (SNL-era) Chevy Chase.

Prat fuck?
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Sarah on December 04, 2010, 10:49:11 PM
More like fucking a prat, but a cute one.l
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: DS1077 on December 04, 2010, 11:02:22 PM
I confess to getting profoundly irritated every time Steve Martin pulls out his banjo on a talk show.  I know it's not fair of me to expect celebs to only do one thing forever, but the banjo music thing is exceptionally boring.

On the other hand, I'm pretty much in favor of Rick Moranis' country music career.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Pidgeon on December 04, 2010, 11:24:37 PM
On the other hand, I'm pretty much in favor of Rick Moranis' country music career.

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but what I've heard is actually not half bad.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: masterofsparks on December 04, 2010, 11:31:16 PM
Based on Sarah's answer as well as those of Ms. Klausner and Ms. Vargas-Cooper, I have to wonder if I'm more in the minority than I thought in finding Chevy Chase insufferable and not at all funny. I'm not considering his looks at all, which the above three obviously are, but I'd say he's the least talented of the original SNL cast, I've never been able to get through Fletch, and his scenes in Caddyshack are a huge drag on a movie that spends the rest of its running time being hilarious. I don't remember hating him in Vacation but I haven't seen it in a really long time.

Am I missing something? Do I need to give Fletch another try? Is there something else I haven't seen that will turn me around?
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Sarah on December 05, 2010, 09:22:26 AM
In the K/M/F game, the person who gets the F isn't being graded as anything but meat, or such is my understanding, anyway.  For example, I think Bill Murray is infinitely funnier and probably smarter than Chevy Chase, but I've always found him strangely repellent in the looks department, so he'd never get a mere F from me.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Chris L on December 05, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
I disagreed with their verdict.  Bill Murray ain't husband material, unless you want to be at least emotionally, if not physically, abused.

Don't rule anything out!
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Chris L on December 05, 2010, 09:51:05 AM
Based on Sarah's answer as well as those of Ms. Klausner and Ms. Vargas-Cooper, I have to wonder if I'm more in the minority than I thought in finding Chevy Chase insufferable and not at all funny. I'm not considering his looks at all, which the above three obviously are, but I'd say he's the least talented of the original SNL cast, I've never been able to get through Fletch, and his scenes in Caddyshack are a huge drag on a movie that spends the rest of its running time being hilarious. I don't remember hating him in Vacation but I haven't seen it in a really long time.

Am I missing something? Do I need to give Fletch another try? Is there something else I haven't seen that will turn me around?

Chevy has had his moments on Community but it's clear he's one of the least talented performers in that cast as well (certainly not worse than Ken Jeong though).  His character has started to become a drag in the second season, really.

I think Vacation probably holds up (haven't seen it in a long time either).  Chevy was a talented physical comedian and still has a knack for deadpan delivery -- that along with charisma carried him as far as he could possibly go for a while.  I guess he was to jerks what Adam Sandler is to idiots, only Sandler has played his cards right.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Christina on December 05, 2010, 11:28:44 AM
I usually loathe those 'the book was better' whiners, but I will say that the Fletch character is WAY cooler in the books, and what you see in the movie is basically Chevy Chase being Chevy Chase. I enjoyed that movie well enough at the time, and we all quoted lines constantly for several months but I can't imagine I'd really be able to sit through it now. All the other guys in the movie are basically there for Chevy to bounce jokes and insults off of...

Vacation, on the other hand, I would think has many awesome lil things to keep you going thru the Chevy bits. Think about who all's in that thing: Randy Quaid, D'Angelo, Candy, Brian Doyle Murray, Jane Krakowski,
Imogene Coca etc etc.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Sarah on December 05, 2010, 03:13:38 PM
I just misread "Vacation" as "Vatican."  Now that's a Chevy Chase movie I might want to check out.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: cavorting with nudists on December 05, 2010, 03:28:06 PM
What's so loathsome and whiny about observing that the book is better (as it usually is, IMO)?  If the filmmakers don't want their work to be compared to the book they base it on, shouldn't they maybe come up with their own idea?
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: DS1077 on December 05, 2010, 05:09:45 PM
I really enjoyed that F/M/K column, and am eagerly awaiting their take on Lou Grant vs Ted Baxter vs Murray Slaughter.  Harder than it seems!
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Sarah on December 05, 2010, 10:01:49 PM
Marry Lou, fuck Ted, and kill Murray.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on December 06, 2010, 08:40:07 AM
I heard he read the entire script to Shopgirl.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on December 07, 2010, 12:59:07 PM
On the other hand, I think a Zach Galifianakis interview where he refused to talk about anything other than Civil War re-enacting would be really fascinating.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Pidgeon on December 07, 2010, 01:07:51 PM
On the other hand, I think a Zach Galifianakis interview where he refused to talk about anything other than Civil War re-enacting would be really fascinating.

Even though he's a North Carolinian (as am I), I can't help but think of how fabulous he would look in one of the blue Union uniforms.
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on December 07, 2010, 01:23:03 PM
There's actually a pilot for a show floating around somewhere where Zach plays a Civil War re-enactor who's way too into getting the details right (what he eats, how/where he sleeps, etc).
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: Emily on December 07, 2010, 03:06:45 PM
that's a good comment!

Here's an interesting article written by someone who ACTUALLY went to the event:
http://emdashes.com/2010/12/more-on-martin-and-solomon-and.php (http://emdashes.com/2010/12/more-on-martin-and-solomon-and.php)

Love these comments:
"So two rich assholes put on a crappy interview for their wealthy
audience and someone’s monocle popped out.
Who give a shit?"
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: ChrisRawk on December 09, 2010, 07:04:15 PM
On the other hand, I'm pretty much in favor of Rick Moranis' country music career.

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but what I've heard is actually not half bad.

Yeah, it's not bad.  Kind of a fun listen, in fact. 
Title: Re: "Steve Martin audience offered full refund after his event was too boring"
Post by: ChrisRawk on December 09, 2010, 07:12:38 PM
I usually loathe those 'the book was better' whiners, but I will say that the Fletch character is WAY cooler in the books, and what you see in the movie is basically Chevy Chase being Chevy Chase. I enjoyed that movie well enough at the time, and we all quoted lines constantly for several months but I can't imagine I'd really be able to sit through it now. All the other guys in the movie are basically there for Chevy to bounce jokes and insults off of.

FLETCH (the movie) still holds up.  It's been years since I read the books but I remember thinking the movie was a pretty faithful adaptation, albeit a little more on the slapstick side.  Then again I also saw the movie before I got into the books.

I'd be interested to see some kind of FLETCH reimagining.  Maybe a TV show.