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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: Guy Whitey Corngood on February 17, 2011, 02:09:22 AM
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I finally decided to make a Twitter account a few days ago, basically to read musings from alt-comedians and rappers during class/work, etc. It's as entertaining as I imagined; way more fun on a phone than a computer, where the regular Internet is a bit more compelling.
Anyway, of course Tom Scharpling was the first person I started following, and now I NEED to know who this name-dropping hack is that he has been cryptically referring to! Let's review what Tom has said, straight from the source:
-"Who is the least talented successful writer I have ever worked with? Oh, man. I wish I could tell you his name. But he is a FRAUD."
-"This writer has been associated with some REALLY respectable things and gets credit for things that he stood next to. He's crafty but AWFUL."
-"He's a comedy guy but NEVER said one funny thing in the dozen-plus times I've spent with him. Did PLENTY of name dropping though."
-"Remember the talentless writer I was talking about yesterday? I forgot to mention that hes a SNOB and treats those 'beneath him' like trash!"
-"And the guy is a 'legend'. But trust me - he made sure he was next to the right people. Major league ass kisser."
My educated guess? It rhymes with Flood Zapato. Whose work/stuff he's associated with contains lots of great stuff...although I really took umbrage when he bashed Ricky Gervais post-Golden Globes, even though I agree 'Invention of Lying' stunk! Fellow FOTs, your thoughts?
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Apatow got a "funny" when Tom ran down the Huffington Post's 50 funniest (http://friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php/topic,7552.msg165898.html#msg165898). Michael Ian Black was mentioned in reference to Tom's appearance on WTF (http://friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=7680.0;num_replies=0), and there's some project crossover (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425720/) there, but he's surely not a 'legend'.
Dunno!
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I don't think it could possibly be Judd Apatow.
Exhibit A)
-"Who is the least talented successful writer I have ever worked with?"
Has Tom really ever worked with him? I've heard him mention on older episodes that he'd love to work with him, and I know Tom's a fan of his work.
Exhibit B)
-"This writer has been associated with some REALLY respectable things and gets credit for things that he stood next to. He's crafty but AWFUL."
Apatow isn't "associated" with respectable things. He's EXECUTIVE PRODUCED AND DIRECTED really respectable things. That doesn't count as having "stood next to." That is "grabbed the bull by the horns and wrangled it to the dirt."
Exhibit C)
-"He's a comedy guy but NEVER said one funny thing in the dozen-plus times I've spent with him. Did PLENTY of name dropping though."
Why would Apatow need to drop any names? He's been a name since 2005 and was already writing and producing stuff that is now turning out to be legendary. He's deciding who gets to be a name these days. Also, Apatow is an extremely busy man. I can't imagine Tom got to spend a "dozen-plus times" with him, and is now throwing him under the bus. Chances are, if you're working on a project with that guy and it goes beyond three or four meetings, things are probably going pretty good for you.
Exhibit D)
-"Remember the talentless writer I was talking about yesterday? I forgot to mention that hes a SNOB and treats those 'beneath him' like trash!"
I have been in the same room with Apatow several times and I can assure you, he's no snob. He was amazed that I even knew who he was and was very shy and polite ... and that was on a project that he was executive-producing well after becoming a household name, so he was basically the biggest deal in the room.
Exhibit E)
-"And the guy is a 'legend'. But trust me - he made sure he was next to the right people. Major league ass kisser."
Apatow is definitely a legend and can pretty much greenlight anything he wants, but that's after YEARS of hard work and due diligence. A lot of people don't realize that he's been behind some of the funniest stuff going all the way back to the early 90s, possibly earlier. He's paid his dues.
Plus, Tom seems to only refer to the guy as a writer and comedian. Apatow is more well known for being a producer and director. Of course he does write and has dabbled in stand-up, but I have a feeling that whoever Tom is talking about here is either someone a lot older, or someone quite a bit newer but really making a name for himself.
I wonder if Tom will ever spill the beans.
Also ... I really enjoyed The Invention of Lying, but mostly for the fact that it was very quietly funny, and the scene when Gervais is telling his mom about heaven was very moving. But I do agree that Ricky deserves a spanking after the Golden Globes, and he could stand to take it easy on Karl Pilkington... But that guy sure does set himself up for Gervais' attacks.
Finally, Guy Whitey Corngood is a terrific name. If I'm not mistaken, was he the one giving out Mississippi Fun Bucks?
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[Gervias] could stand to take it easy on Karl Pilkington... But that guy sure does set himself up for Gervais' attacks.
I wouldn't worry, Pilkington seems perfectly happy with his meal ticket.
[EDIT #2: Sorry for the stealth edit Steve I got mind problems]
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he could stand to take it easy on Karl Pilkington... But that guy sure does set himself up for Gervais' attacks.
I wouldn't worry, that guys seems perfectly happy with his meal ticket.
That's a very good point.
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Boy, you guys are dense: it's obvious Tom is talking about Jon Wurster.
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Great post, Steve. I believe you are right.
Exhibit C)
-"He's a comedy guy but NEVER said one funny thing in the dozen-plus times I've spent with him. Did PLENTY of name dropping though."
Why would Apatow need to drop any names? He's been a name since 2005 and was already writing and producing stuff that is now turning out to be legendary. He's deciding who gets to be a name these days. Also, Apatow is an extremely busy man. I can't imagine Tom got to spend a "dozen-plus times" with him, and is now throwing him under the bus. Chances are, if you're working on a project with that guy and it goes beyond three or four meetings, things are probably going pretty good for you.
I would support this; I have heard Apatow in interviews, and he seemed funny enough to me.
I think Tom may have been talking about Jack Benny.
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Clearly it's Bud Abbott.
ps: You're pronouncing zapato incorrectly.
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Boy, you guys are dense: it's obvious Tom is talking about Jon Wurster.
The guy from Soup or Chunk? Have they worked together?
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It's obviously Andy Breckman. Tom carried that guy for years.
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It's obviously Andy Breckman. Tom carried that guy for years.
Yeh his show isn't funny at all!
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[Gervias] could stand to take it easy on Karl Pilkington...[.] But that guy sure does set himself up for Gervais['s] attacks.
I wouldn't worry, Pilkington seems perfectly happy with his meal ticket.
[EDIT #2: Sorry for the stealth edit Steve I got mind problems]
Hey, might as well go all out while you're at it.
What are your tricks for standing Internet English, by the way? Me, I find teeth grinding useful.
NB: I had to put the apostrophe after "Gervais" in the brackets to circumvent the formatting rules.
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I'm sort of less than impressed with Tom talking s hit about someone he's not going to actually name. Blind-Item/twitter/comedy-industry beef seems beneath him.
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He could also just be making it up. He said on the WTFcast that he liked to be super vague about someone or something he was upset about just to start something and liked hearing people wonder, "Who is he talking about?" I wouldn't be surprised if it was no one and this thread is making him very happy right now.
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What are your tricks for standing Internet English, by the way? Me, I find teeth grinding useful.
Ha! Depends what you mean by Internet English, but I'm probably guilty of too much myself to be bothered by it (See: my weird, unpunctuated apology). Not that certain things don't drive me crazy - my gut boils whenever I read/hear an adjective preceded by the definite article, for instance.
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I think he's talking about Watson, that computer that was on Jeopardy.
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My educated guess? It rhymes with Flood Zapato.
Hmm, is it John Leguizamo?
What, he's done some comedy. You can wiki it.
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Bob Odenkirk is certainly a legend but I can't imagine its him.
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Thanks, Steve. I wasn't THAT committed to my guess it was Apatow, and I probably should've written "completely uneducated" instead of "educated guess." Also, your citing of Tom's take on the Huffington Post research is some crack research!
President Guy "Whitey" Corngood was Commander in Chief when the country was in the midst of "Blow Up The Moon" fever. I think he has just one tiny line in that bit, but his ridiculous name left an indelible mark on my psyche nonetheless.
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Also, your citing of Tom's take on the Huffington Post research is some crack research!
Hey!
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Bob Odenkirk is certainly a legend but I can't imagine its him.
From what I know about Bob Odenkirk, he is the nicest guy on the planet.
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Bob Odenkirk is certainly a legend but I can't imagine its him.
From what I know about Bob Odenkirk, he is the nicest guy on the planet.
It couldn't be David Cross, could it? I mean, I didn't really like his last album that much because it seemed more antagonistic than I expected, but other than that I don't know too much about his whole behind-the-scenes personality and I always assumed he was a solid guy.
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I get the impression that we're more talking writer than comedian/actor.
ps: I don't like any of David Cross's standup.
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Tom's trying to vent not potentially fuck his career up. If he wanted to be clear he'd be clear.
let it be vague
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Tom's trying to vent not potentially fuck his career up. If he wanted to be clear he'd be clear.
let it be vague
I bet a fiver Tom's yanking your chains to see how you will react to it. Either that or it's Red Skelton.
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Gee, maybe he's talking about himself! Remember that sleeping cry for help?
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All signs point to Henny Youngmen
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Thanks, Steve. I wasn't THAT committed to my guess it was Apatow, and I probably should've written "completely uneducated" instead of "educated guess." Also, your citing of Tom's take on the Huffington Post research is some crack research!
President Guy "Whitey" Corngood was Commander in Chief when the country was in the midst of "Blow Up The Moon" fever. I think he has just one tiny line in that bit, but his ridiculous name left an indelible mark on my psyche nonetheless.
That was all James W
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It couldn't be David Cross, could it? I mean, I didn't really like his last album that much because it seemed more antagonistic than I expected, but other than that I don't know too much about his whole behind-the-scenes personality and I always assumed he was a solid guy.
Watch "Let America Laugh"...
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It's not a cry for help and I didn't make it up.
I WAS venting. And I can say for a fact that nobody named the person in question here....
Tom.
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Yeah, I'm not sure if all this speculation is doing any good anyhow. Blind items can be kind of interesting to theorize about sometimes but it can complicate a situation when the subject probably shouldn't be named.
(Unless the person's dead, and then all bets are off.)
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(Unless the person's dead, and then all bets are off.)
That's cruel.
Sincerely,
Jerry Garcia
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I agree with Fredericks, it's Jerry Garcia
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It's not a cry for help....
What? I'm astonished.
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I thought of Adam McKay, i heard an interview with him on WTF and hated his attitude and his political bravado.
But maybe that is just me.
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This is driving me nuts now. The 'legend' thing is what gets me. A legend to who? TV writing people, alt-comedy people? Who has Tom been working/meeting with on his unproduced TV projects?
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I agree with Fredericks, it's Jerry Garcia
I never found him funny, either, but the kid next store would put on his records, open the window and just giggle and giggle.
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It's not a cry for help....
What? I'm astonished.
Well, we should know by now how this not how Tom cries for help. Ask Sparkiepop.
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You're right: he would have said "please."
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I'm with effecT. My gut tells me that it's Adam McKay.
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Oh, man. It is DEFINITELY NOT Adam McKay. He is a brilliant guy.
Tom.
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Oh, man. It is DEFINITELY NOT Adam McKay. He is a brilliant guy.
Tom.
Tom's right.
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I thought it might be someone from early SNL like Tom Davis. Is that guy really a "legend" though? Or still active?
2nd guess is Dick Ebersol *ducks*
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My guess is either David Wain or Tom Lennon.
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My guess is either David Wain or Tom Lennon.
I have a feeling you're way off base. Do I need to tell my "Tom Lennon stops and talks to me every time I see him" stories?
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Yeah, and I guess neither one of them are "legends." And Wain is more of a director than a writer these days...
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It's Eric Idle.
OK, it's not a serious guess at all, but combining all accounts of former Python colleagues, these rants describe someone very much like Eric Idle. (Although, I thought Eric Idle wrote funny stuff, but was the lone writer, whereas the other Python members collaborated?)
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2nd guess is Dick Ebersol
YOU TAKE THAT BACK.
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Oh, man. It is DEFINITELY NOT Adam McKay. He is a brilliant guy.
Tom.
Tom's right.
Duly noted...
I was going on one instance of exposure to him and so i can't say i'm surprised that i was wrong.
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Hmmm, notice Tom did not deny that it was Andy Breckman.
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Robert Benchley.
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I thought that Andy Breckman was off the list? He was one of the first people mentioned. I can't imagine Tom saying that about the guy who gave him his first big break.
David Koechner?
I give up. It sure is fun to guess, though. :-)
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Fun guessing game!
Who were the people who got meh or not funny on the HuffPo 50 list?
Ricky Gervais, Dave Chappelle, Craig Ferguson, Ellen DeGeneres, Tracy Morgan, Bill Maher, Mitch Hurwitz, Trey Parker/Matt Stone, Anderson Cooper, Jimmy Kimmel, Wierd Al.
I'm gonna assume it wasn't Carlin or Betty White as Tom seems to classy to diss a dead guy or an old lady.
Of those, not many could truly, truly be a legend.
I'm gonna guess at Hurwitz. People think he's a legend, and he was surrounded by the "right people" during Arrested Development.
With that said, I have no idea who Tom has and hasn't worked with, so I could be way off. And I guess there's also every chance it's not someone on that list.
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You mean he's not talking about someone from Consolidated Cardboard?
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All signs point to Hurwitz.
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This game is stupid.
I'm going to go drink a beer in the shower instead.
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Please keep this thread going! Let's get it to 100 pages! 8)
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This game is stupid.
I'm going to go drink a beer in the shower instead.
POWER SHOWER TIP: avoid stouts and IPAs.
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This game is stupid.
I'm going to go drink a beer in the shower instead.
POWER SHOWER TIP: avoid stouts and IPAs.
Interesting... Go on.
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Ha The joke's on you: I will be taking a bath, accompanied by a small glass of Jack Daniels.
Suckers.
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S. J. Perelman? Jerome K. Jerome? Jonathan Swift?
Plautus?
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Benny Bell.
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If I had to guess, I would guess Al Franken.
But really, WHO CARES.*
* I kinda care.
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This is quite an investigation!
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If I had to guess, I would guess Al Franken.
But really, WHO CARES.*
* I kinda care.
Glenn Beck?
Sacha Baron Cohen?
Wally Whackiman?
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I cracked it. It's Andy Milonakis...in the Observatory with the candlestick.
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Jon Stewart?
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AP Mike.
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Whoever guessed David Koechner, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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It could be Hurwitz because that Guardian( At least I think it's the Guardian) article recently could've triggered the bashing.
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Mel Brooks.
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Alan Zweibel?
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Paula Poundstone, Peter Sagal, and Mo Rocca.
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Alan Zweibel?
Yeah, I think it's this one.
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Alan Zweibel?
Yeah, I think it's this one.
Agreed.
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I am glad Tom has posted in this thread to somewhat validate that he isn't messing with all of us. But I DID just listen to his appearance on the WTF Podcast (delightful, profound) and I have totally fallen for his Twitter goading, whether he's pranking or not!
Also, can I just say the trio of Patton Oswalt, PFT and Tom all on recent WTF Podcast episodes: Incredible. Just straight up super-fascinating conversation and reaffirmations of everything I love about those three guys. Podcasting pantheon shit right there!
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It's obviously Ray Romano.
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Alan Zweibel?
After looking at his IMDB...definite candidate.
In other news, Tom Scharpling's IMDB STARmeter is up 161% this week!
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Alan Zweibel?
After looking at his IMDB...definite candidate.
In other news, Tom Scharpling's IMDB STARmeter is up 161% this week!
Zweibel co-wrote North. Show him some respect.
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Alan Zweibel?
After looking at his IMDB...definite candidate.
In other news, Tom Scharpling's IMDB STARmeter is up 161% this week!
Zweibel co-wrote North. Show him some respect.
Ahh yes, the movie known more for its Siskel & Ebert review than anything else.
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It's gotta be James L. Brooks. Tom accidentally said his name on last week's show when he meant to say James Ellroy. He clearly had Brooks on the brain.
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Mel Brooks?
Tim Conway?
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It's gotta be James L. Brooks. Tom accidentally said his name on last week's show when he meant to say James Ellroy. He clearly had Brooks on the brain.
I figured that was just because he was talking about Mel Brooks right before and that got mixed up with the "James L" of James Ellroy.
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I'm pretty sure it's me.
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Has anyone guessed Andy Breckman?
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So after last night's show, it's Justin Timberlake, right?
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It is that talentless Stacy Morgan. I was watching DEATH AT A FUNERAL and Danny Glover hitting Stacy Morgan with the cane was more funnier than anything that came out of Stacy's mouth.
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Who's Stacey Morgan?
I bet it's not James Brooks. Probably somebody closer to Tom's age, in their late 50s or at most early 60s.
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So after last night's show, it's Justin Timberlake, right?
I was thinking that, but Tom mentioned a writer, and I think he considers himself more of an "actor". I could be wrong though.
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Who's Stacey Morgan?
I bet it's not James Brooks. Probably somebody closer to Tom's age, in their late 50s or at most early 60s.
One of the stars of 30 ROCK.
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Who's Stacey Morgan?
I bet it's not James Brooks. Probably somebody closer to Tom's age, in their late 50s or at most early 60s.
One of the stars of 30 ROCK.
Oh, ho ho! I never would have gotten this one.
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Who's Stacey Morgan?
I bet it's not James Brooks. Probably somebody closer to Tom's age, in their late 50s or at most early 60s.
One of the stars of 30 ROCK.
Oh, ho ho! I never would have gotten this one.
Sorry, Spike, but I believe that Stacey Morgan was a female panelist on the Gong Show. She and Jamie Farr used to dance together and then simultaneously bang the gong when a really bad musician performed.
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'Member her spangly berets?
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'Member her spangly berets?
...as clearly as I remember Charles Nelson Reilly's pipe.
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'Member her spangly berets?
...as clearly as I remember Charles Nelson Reilly's pipe.
He is missed.
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Judah Friedlander
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Judah Friedlander
This is a good guess. I think he is funny on 30 Rock sometimes but I imagine he is a jerk in real life. Especially when you have to look at those hats everytime you talk to him.
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Judah Friedlander
This is a good guess. I think he is funny on 30 Rock sometimes but I imagine he is a jerk in real life. Especially when you have to look at those hats everytime you talk to him.
Although I did find the hat that said "Half Centaur" pretty funny.
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Judah Friedlander
This is a good guess. I think he is funny on 30 Rock sometimes but I imagine he is a jerk in real life. Especially when you have to look at those hats everytime you talk to him.
Although I did find the hat that said "Half Centaur" pretty funny.
This was one possibility I had guessed, although I decided not to count him as a writer and ruled it out. Which I guess supports the theory.
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Judah Friedlander
This is a good guess. I think he is funny on 30 Rock sometimes but I imagine he is a jerk in real life. Especially when you have to look at those hats everytime you talk to him.
I can't watch 30 Rock because of the chance that That Thing might show up on camera. For some reason, he's much more repulsive to me than a thousand things that are supposed to be Internet gross outs.
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Judah Friedlander
This is a good guess. I think he is funny on 30 Rock sometimes but I imagine he is a jerk in real life. Especially when you have to look at those hats everytime you talk to him.
I can't watch 30 Rock because of the chance that That Thing might show up on camera. For some reason, he's much more repulsive to me than a thousand things that are supposed to be Internet gross outs.
Agreed.
What do they do? Cast his hat too? I think my overwhelming love for American Splendor made me forget it was him for a couple hours, but everything else he's showed up in that I've seen is bad. It's like his hat is the punchline, then every line of dialogue he has after you see the hat is some lazy victory lap. Anti-punch line. Or something like that. Men of wisdom...
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I want to see what that dude looks like shaved, hair cut, and wearing adult clothes.
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Judah Friedlander is a "legend"?!
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Sorry, Spike, but I believe that Stacey Morgan was a female panelist on the Gong Show. She and Jamie Farr used to dance together and then simultaneously bang the gong when a really bad musician performed.
You're thinking of Jaye P. Morgan...
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'Member her spangly berets?
...as clearly as I remember Charles Nelson Reilly's pipe.
Who doesn't remember Reilly's pip. It was the major weapon he used to do battle with Spangly Beret Summers...
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Sorry, Spike, but I believe that Stacey Morgan was a female panelist on the Gong Show. She and Jamie Farr used to dance together and then simultaneously bang the gong when a really bad musician performed.
You're thinking of Jaye P. Morgan...
The banker? Bah!
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I could see it being Judah Friedlander. Although he's not a legend, he fits the bill for everything else. Saw him at the East Village Comedy club and he made fun of the way I clapped (out of obligation, for one of his dumb jokes and the two drink minimum which became a four drink minimum because of my teetotalling girlfriend). I haven't clapped for anything since...
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AP Mike.
I see you still got your claws out, Kitty.
Here's my candidate for a literary hack: Donald Barthelme.
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I want to see what that dude looks like shaved, hair cut, and wearing adult clothes.
Check the Harry & The Hendersons episode, I think it's in season 3.
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I could see it being Judah Friedlander. Although he's not a legend, he fits the bill for everything else. Saw him at the East Village Comedy club and he made fun of the way I clapped (out of obligation, for one of his dumb jokes and the two drink minimum which became a four drink minimum because of my teetotalling girlfriend). I haven't clapped for anything since...
I laughed so hard at this. Imagining someone offended at someone clapping weioerd. Imagining someone clapping weird. How the hell can someone clap weird?
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Tracy_Morgan_5_Shankbone_2009_NYC.jpg/646px-Tracy_Morgan_5_Shankbone_2009_NYC.jpg)
This is STACEY MORGAN.
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I like Barthelme's short stories. He can get precious, but so can they all.
Call screener Steve never would have knocked the great DB.
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AP Mike.
I see you still got your claws out, Kitty.
Here's my candidate for a literary hack: Donald Barthelme.
Uh oh, just checked out one of his books on a recommendation from Amazon
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AP Mike.
I see you still got your claws out, Kitty.
Here's my candidate for a literary hack: Donald Barthelme.
Uh oh, just checked out one of his books on a recommendation from Amazon
Try Forty Stories.
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Mike is an unforgiving critic. Barthelme may not be to everyone's taste, but "hack" isn't something it would occur to me to call him.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Tracy_Morgan_5_Shankbone_2009_NYC.jpg/646px-Tracy_Morgan_5_Shankbone_2009_NYC.jpg)
This is STACEY MORGAN.
Sorry, but I believe that is Stacy Keach.
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I'll stand by both Donald Barthelme and Stacey L. Keach.
I think Tom's talking about Chaim Levine, if you know what I'm saying.
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Whoever it is, I'd recommend staying out of Tom's octagon.
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Interesting update to share with you all. I was listening to the episode: September 25, 2007: A Continuation Of The Legendary 'The Best Show On WFMU's 100 Top Movie Quotes'! It's Epic And It Makes Everyone Who Hears It Happy, So Listen! this afternoon when an interesting thing happened. A caller suggested a quote from the movie "Stripes." Tom, normally a Bill Murray lover, apologized to the caller and said he could not accept a quote from that movie for "personal reasons."
"You wanna know what? For personal reasons, 'Stripes' will never make the list. I had a problem with someone who co-wrote 'Stripes'...creep." - Tom
You know who co-wrote Stripes? Comedy "legend" Harold Ramis! I hereby change my official guess to Harold Ramis. Based on Tom's tweets + this new insight, it now seems totally reasonable and believable.
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You know who co-wrote Stripes? Comedy "legend" Harold Ramis!
... and at least two other guys.
It was Zweibel.
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Did Ghostbuster get omitted from that list too?
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I remember a line from Groundhog Day, which was directed and co-written by Harold Ramis, being accepted onto that list.
Furthermore, I take offense of the scare quotes around legend when discussing Ramis. Sure, the guy's directorial resume isn't the strongest list of credits, but he was Egon Spangler, was at one point apart of SCTV and he made Groundhog Day. That's enough for me to give the guy his due.
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I doubt it was Ramis. I seem to remember a comment from Tom about this guy kissing up to people, and Ramis hasn't had to kiss up to anybody since the 80s.
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Harold Ramis as Mo Green in Dialing for Dollars was classic stuff.
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It's Mike Francesa.
/thread closed.
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I only put Ramis in quotes because Tom used the word. I have respect for him and his career.
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My guess is Scott Aukerman
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My guess is Scott Aukerman
I don't think it's Scott Aukerman, but since you brought it up, what's the deal with that guy? He gets all these amazing people on CDR but always steps all over their jokes. His own jokes sound deliberately bad, like a dad telling jokes to a 5 year old. The unfunny comedian thing, the irony of the bad joke, I get it, but every week for years and years? Has he ever been actually funny?
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This thread is just turning into a excuse for people to project their own dislike of a certain comedian or comedy writer onto Tom. Furthermore, I get the feeling that some people have already guessed who was being referred to correctly. So please: because Tom can't really confirm anything and because this thread has the potential to be seen by the wrong people, let's stop stoking this fire and let the very transparent mystery be.
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This thread is just turning into a excuse for people to project their own dislike of a certain comedian or comedy writer onto Tom. Furthermore, I get the feeling that some people have already guessed who was being referred to correctly. So please: because Tom can't really confirm anything and because this thread has the potential to be seen by the wrong people, let's stop stoking this fire and let the very transparent mystery be.
So sayeth Rhymes with Dodney Ding!
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This thread is just turning into a excuse for people to project their own dislike of a certain comedian or comedy writer onto Tom. Furthermore, I get the feeling that some people have already guessed who was being referred to correctly. So please: because Tom can't really confirm anything and because this thread has the potential to be seen by the wrong people, let's stop stoking this fire and let the very transparent mystery be.
I don't like anybody, so I've avoided guessing.
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My guess is Scott Aukerman
I don't think it's Scott Aukerman, but since you brought it up, what's the deal with that guy? He gets all these amazing people on CDR but always steps all over their jokes. His own jokes sound deliberately bad, like a dad telling jokes to a 5 year old. The unfunny comedian thing, the irony of the bad joke, I get it, but every week for years and years? Has he ever been actually funny?
He's very funny on stage.
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Who was that funny southern lady who always had the price tag hanging from her hat? I think it's her.
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This thread is just turning into a excuse for people to project their own dislike of a certain comedian or comedy writer onto Tom. Furthermore, I get the feeling that some people have already guessed who was being referred to correctly. So please: because Tom can't really confirm anything and because this thread has the potential to be seen by the wrong people, let's stop stoking this fire and let the very transparent mystery be.
So sayeth Rhymes with Dodney Ding!
Hey, aren't you suppose to be a nice guy, Dave From Knoxville?
But really-- just change this thread to "Comedians We Don't Like" and it'll be more accurately portrayed.
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But really-- just change this thread to "Comedians We Don't Like" and it'll be more accurately portrayed.
Or just keep it to yourself and start a thread called "Comedian We Love." Because I rather be told who to check out than who to stay away from. Less time.
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Who was that funny southern lady who always had the price tag hanging from her hat? I think it's her.
He's obviously talking about Bennett Cerf. I never got that guy either.
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This thread is just turning into a excuse for people to project their own dislike of a certain comedian or comedy writer onto Tom. Furthermore, I get the feeling that some people have already guessed who was being referred to correctly. So please: because Tom can't really confirm anything and because this thread has the potential to be seen by the wrong people, let's stop stoking this fire and let the very transparent mystery be.
So sayeth Rhymes with Dodney Ding!
Hey, aren't you suppose to be a nice guy, Dave From Knoxville?
But really-- just change this thread to "Comedians We Don't Like" and it'll be more accurately portrayed.
It was supposed to be a joke, Rhymes With Mouse Caper
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Who was that funny southern lady who always had the price tag hanging from her hat? I think it's her.
That's Grand Ole Opry regular Minnie Pearl.
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Who was that funny southern lady who always had the price tag hanging from her hat? I think it's her.
That's Grand Ole Opry regular Minnie Pearl.
Had lunch with her. Nice enough, not at all funny.
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This thread is just turning into a excuse for people to project their own dislike of a certain comedian or comedy writer onto Tom. Furthermore, I get the feeling that some people have already guessed who was being referred to correctly. So please: because Tom can't really confirm anything and because this thread has the potential to be seen by the wrong people, let's stop stoking this fire and let the very transparent mystery be.
So sayeth Rhymes with Dodney Ding!
Hey, aren't you suppose to be a nice guy, Dave From Knoxville?
But really-- just change this thread to "Comedians We Don't Like" and it'll be more accurately portrayed.
It was supposed to be a joke, Rhymes With Mouse Caper
I was joking too. :-)
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This thread is just turning into a excuse for people to project their own dislike of a certain comedian or comedy writer onto Tom. Furthermore, I get the feeling that some people have already guessed who was being referred to correctly. So please: because Tom can't really confirm anything and because this thread has the potential to be seen by the wrong people, let's stop stoking this fire and let the very transparent mystery be.
So sayeth Rhymes with Dodney Ding!
Hey, aren't you suppose to be a nice guy, Dave From Knoxville?
But really-- just change this thread to "Comedians We Don't Like" and it'll be more accurately portrayed.
It was supposed to be a joke, Rhymes With Mouse Caper
I was joking too. :-)
Well, I was joking first! Rumors of my niceness have been greatly exaggerated.
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Surprised no one has mentioned Jerry Seinfeld yet. i think Jerry fits all of the categories. makes sense to me.
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That bee's a jerk, isn't he?
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What is the deal with that bee?
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That bee's a jerk, isn't he?
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(http://www.beyondhollywood.com/gallery/stills3/jerry-seinfeld-bee-costume-1.jpg)
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My guess is Scott Aukerman
I don't think it's Scott Aukerman, but since you brought it up, what's the deal with that guy? He gets all these amazing people on CDR but always steps all over their jokes. His own jokes sound deliberately bad, like a dad telling jokes to a 5 year old. The unfunny comedian thing, the irony of the bad joke, I get it, but every week for years and years? Has he ever been actually funny?
He's very funny on stage.
Yes. I love Hot Saucerman.
I would also like to register my appreciation of Clock SoccerMom. At first listen, it might sound like he's stepping all over brilliant comics. But if you go thru the archives, i think it's the nature of his goading that has coaxed out some of the best-ever work from people like PFT, Seth Morris, Nick Kroll, Andy Daly, Eddie Pepitone, and many others. As for his own dumb jokes ... sure, they're pretty dumb. But they make me laugh. I dunno, just something about the way he delivers them.
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My guess is Scott Aukerman
I don't think it's Scott Aukerman, but since you brought it up, what's the deal with that guy? He gets all these amazing people on CDR but always steps all over their jokes. His own jokes sound deliberately bad, like a dad telling jokes to a 5 year old. The unfunny comedian thing, the irony of the bad joke, I get it, but every week for years and years? Has he ever been actually funny?
He's very funny on stage.
Yes. I love Hot Saucerman.
I would also like to register my appreciation of Clock SoccerMom. At first listen, it might sound like he's stepping all over brilliant comics. But if you go thru the archives, i think it's the nature of his goading that has coaxed out some of the best-ever work from people like PFT, Seth Morris, Nick Kroll, Andy Daly, Eddie Pepitone, and many others. As for his own dumb jokes ... sure, they're pretty dumb. But they make me laugh. I dunno, just something about the way he delivers them.
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I think he's more interested in playing the host than in being "the funny one" himself. He's as funny as he needs to be. Any more and he'd be butting in on his guests and they're the real stars of the show.
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I also have to come to Hot Soccermom's defense. I love the show, and his delivery makes even the corny jokes work. As Eric points out, I think for the most part he does let the guests do their thing and takes a support role, which is a good thing for a host to do.
Actually, though, one of my favorite Comedy Death Ray moments was when PFT as Danny Glover gave a vague answer to 'how old are you now, Danny?', and Scott commented that 'you'd think you would have wiki'ed yourself before you called in'.
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Tom said that the guy he hates has been associated with tons of great projects. Aukerman has really only done Mr. Show, Between Two Ferns and Sarah Silverman Program. Plus, I really doubt TS would go on his Comedy Death Ray podcast just a few days before or after publicly calling him a hack.
So, I feel comfortable saying it's not him.
I've listened to Comedy Death Ray Radio since it debuted, and although he can be a forehead-slapworthy pun machine, he's great at getting guests, and his show's games are usually entertaining. The first Bob Odenkirk edition of "Would You Rather" had me crying.
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Aukerman is good and original. CDR both live and podcast is just eff off space that people develop stuff, characters and improv experience. The exchanges Scott has with Brett Gelman, Andy Daly, Harris Wittels, and Seth Morris is top-shelf funny.
Fairly certain Hot Saucerman is appreciated by most everyone in "the biz", and as much as Tom has talked down the comedy procedural podcast I doubt he would take umbrage with something going for the actual funny like CDR.
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Tom said that the guy he hates has been associated with tons of great projects. Aukerman has really only done Mr. Show, Between Two Ferns and Sarah Silverman Program. Plus, I really doubt TS would go on his Comedy Death Ray podcast just a few days before or after publicly calling him a hack.
So, I feel comfortable saying it's not him.
I've listened to Comedy Death Ray Radio since it debuted, and although he can be a forehead-slapworthy pun machine, he's great at getting guests, and his show's games are usually entertaining. The first Bob Odenkirk edition of "Would You Rather" had me crying.
Last week's episode with Jon Hamm actually annoyed me by not taking the game seriously enough. Which is weird for a comedy podcast, but it's the one game they play that I actually enjoy as a game in it's own right.
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Had lunch with her. Nice enough, not at all funny.
Did she bring wrestler guests to the Opry cafeteria as well? Wasn't she an upper class type in real life (went to college, played tennis, etc)?
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Had lunch with her. Nice enough, not at all funny.
Did she bring wrestler guests to the Opry cafeteria as well? Wasn't she an upper class type in real life (went to college, played tennis, etc)?
I'm bored, so let's wiki that!
Sarah Colley [Minnie Pearl] was born in Centerville, in Hickman County, Tennessee, about 50 miles (80 km) southwest of Nashville. She was the youngest of the five daughters of a prosperous lumberman in Centerville. She graduated from Ward-Belmont College (now Belmont University), at the time Nashville's most prestigious school for young ladies, where her major was theater studies and dance was a particular interest. After graduation she taught dance for several years.
Oops, check this out:
Pearl's comic material derived heavily from her hometown of Centerville, which in her act she called Grinder's Switch. Grinder's Switch is a community just outside of Centerville that consisted of little more than a railroad switch. Those who knew her recognized that the characters were largely based on real residents of Centerville.
Without Minnie Pearl, no Garrison Keebler!
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It can also be argued that her infallibly laff-getting signature phrase, "How-DEEEEEE!" was a big influence on Bobby "HOWAHHH-YA?" Bittman.
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Aukerman is good and original. CDR both live and podcast is just eff off space that people develop stuff, characters and improv experience. The exchanges Scott has with Brett Gelman, Andy Daly, Harris Wittels, and Seth Morris is top-shelf funny.
Fairly certain Hot Saucerman is appreciated by most everyone in "the biz", and as much as Tom has talked down the comedy procedural podcast I doubt he would take umbrage with something going for the actual funny like CDR.
OK, that makes sense. It's garbage time he doesn't take seriously. I think I got it now.
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My guess? Bruce Vilanch
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Perhaps I missed the context, or didn't pick up on a the true intention of the comment, but I think that Tom recently made a less-than-complimentary allusion to Jay Mohr on the show? Not a legend by any means, but meets some of the other criteria. He's been involved in a slew of great projects...Jerry McGuire... Suicide Kings...The Jim Rome Show...
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Perhaps I missed the context, or didn't pick up on a the true intention of the comment, but I think that Tom recently made a less-than-complimentary allusion to Jay Mohr on the show? Not a legend by any means, but meets some of the other criteria. He's been involved in a slew of great projects...Jerry McGuire... Suicide Kings...The Jim Rome Show...
The Jim Rome Show is a "great project"?
This has been going on for so long now, I can't remember...anybody mentioned Silent Bob yet?
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I took a second to look at other writers on Monk and found David M. Stern on the list (Simpsons, Ugly Americans...) Tom?
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Come on, let's not get the guy in trouble with show business.
I figured it out, anyway.
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You cracked the code? How about sending a message.
Because I already know who it is so I just want to confirm you had the same guy.
;)
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IMDB says he barely writes at all, otherwise my guess after last week's show:
(http://www.playbill.com/images/photo/m/c/mckean1_1115650555.jpg)