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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 23, 2011, 07:59:36 AM
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What bands have you judged without hearing a single notes from?
For me it's Toro y Moi:
(http://www.melophobe.com/images/news/ToroyMoitoroymoi1.jpeg)
Primarily I just get annoyed when I can check the tours on Pitchfork(because that's literally all I use that sight for) and I have to dodge 20 Toro y Moi posts.
And his album cover makes me gag:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61mLL42thzL._SS500_.jpg)
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Yeah, I used to do this a ton. I still do it on occasion. The first band I remember doing this to was the Strokes. I eventually liked them.
I don't have an idea what to do with Toro y Moi either. From the name to the image to the album cover, it's a challenge to think, "Gotta check this out."
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I do this a lot, most recently with Big Time Rush.
(http://www.nickutopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Big-Time-Rush3.jpg)
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I was shooting more for bands that your comtemporaries like.
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I was shooting more for bands that your comtemporaries like.
I'm a 10 year old female.
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I was shooting more for bands that your comtemporaries like.
I'm a 10 year old female.
Fair enough.
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I was not prepared for that album cover. I think I'm gonna be sick.
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I filter the majority of the bands on the Rcrd lbl daily newsletter by appearance (ironic or too Gorilla vs Bear-y) and hometown (Brooklyn or Portland) before downloading...although Blank Dogs & Crystal Stilts both got a pass earlier this week.
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If I see members of a band putting their corpse paint on with little make up mirrors in the corner of the bar before they go on, I'm not going to like their music no matter how good they are.
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What is that dude eating? A photoshopped grapefruit?
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What is that dude eating? A photoshopped grapefruit?
I thought it was some weird dental mutation.
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What is that dude eating? A photoshopped grapefruit?
I thought it was some weird dental mutation.
He's eating a dental mutation?
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I think he is eating fungus. A metaphor for his career.
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What is that dude eating? A photoshopped grapefruit?
I thought it was some weird dental mutation.
He's eating a dental mutation?
No, I meant that whatever he's eating looks like mutated teeth coming out of his mouth.
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I was on Amazon last night and was recommended the Toro y Moi album. So, I listened to the samples to avoid unfairly writing it off. From the samples alone, I'd say we've all made a wisely intuitive choice. It just didn't do much for me.
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Can't stand the hype machine. Poor IMA Robot, are they back working at the car wash or what?
I've never heard Neon Indian, but I am quite sure they(?) are stupid.
this post forced me to investigate what Toro y Moi sounds like. Seems like the dude is just a pair of dumb glasses and reverb. Not my thing.
I knew right off the bat what Warpaint (yet another Native American band name) would be like: pretty chicks with reverb. I investigated and delivered.
You know who is GREAT though?! Glasgow band Moon Unit - who WFMU introduced me to and will be playing on Brain Turner's show in April. This is why I pledge.
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I thought I liked Neon Indian, but I can take it back if I have to.
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Right I haven't heard Neon Indian, Ariel Pink, Sleigh Bells, CSS or any of those Wavves/ mispelled-name bands.
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(http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/devendra-banhart-pic.jpg)
If I'm missing something here...well, I guess I'll just miss it.
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Right I haven't heard Neon Indian, Ariel Pink, Sleigh Bells, CSS or any of those Wavves/ mispelled-name bands.
are you proud of yourself?
I think you're missing out but maybe you're just one of those cynical assholes that can't fathom liking anything
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Right I haven't heard Neon Indian, Ariel Pink, Sleigh Bells, CSS or any of those Wavves/ mispelled-name bands.
are you proud of yourself?
I think you're missing out but maybe you're just one of those cynical assholes that can't fathom liking anything
Well, I am most definitely a cynical asshole but I am more than willing to give each of these bands 30 seconds of my time.
Here's a review:
Neon Indian: "Deadbeat Summer" - Sounds like Hot Child In the City with bleeps and bloops. Lame.
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round - bad disco with reverby vocals. Lame
Sleigh Bells - Infinity Guitars - Cheerleader music recorded in a shoebox. They even mention Indians! Lame.
CSS - Let's Make Love and Listen to Death From Above - mediocre fake disco then some dumb vocals. I'll pass.
Wavves - "Post Acid" - Pop Punk. I'd rather be listening to The Thermals. pass.
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Right I haven't heard Neon Indian, Ariel Pink, Sleigh Bells, CSS or any of those Wavves/ mispelled-name bands.
are you proud of yourself?
I think you're missing out but maybe you're just one of those cynical assholes that can't fathom liking anything
Well, I am most definitely a cynical asshole but I am more than willing to give each of these bands 30 seconds of my time.
Here's a review:
Neon Indian: "Deadbeat Summer" - Sounds like Hot Child In the City with bleeps and bloops. Lame.
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round - bad disco with reverby vocals. Lame
Sleigh Bells - Infinity Guitars - Cheerleader music recorded in a shoebox. They even mention Indians! Lame.
CSS - Let's Make Love and Listen to Death From Above - mediocre fake disco then some dumb vocals. I'll pass.
Wavves - "Post Acid" - Pop Punk. I'd rather be listening to The Thermals. pass.
man, you're so outta touch with the kids!
seriously though, fair enough. I appreciate people making at least semi informed opinions.
I like a lot of that stuff, wavves and sleigh bells especially. (i also used to work at urban outfitters though so i'm not willing to rule out some kind of musical stockholm syndrome.)
it's hardly the only music I listen to but I like keeping an open mind about what's going on in the current scene. I personally think we're in the best time for modern pop music in decades.
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(http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/devendra-banhart-pic.jpg)
If I'm missing something here...well, I guess I'll just miss it.
To be fair, this pic is a little outdated. Now he's an asshole sunglasses model who rubs his glamorous lifestyle in everyone's faces. Still eminently missable, though!
Devendra Banhart at the Rainbow House - Director's Cut (http://vimeo.com/17013920)
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I thought that Sleigh Bells album was fun. It's total fluff, but you can dance to it. I like the dichotomy of poppy dance stuff and ridiculous distortion.
Neon Indian was ok live, but I can't see sitting down and listening to them.
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Right I haven't heard Neon Indian, Ariel Pink, Sleigh Bells, CSS or any of those Wavves/ mispelled-name bands.
are you proud of yourself?
I think you're missing out but maybe you're just one of those cynical assholes that can't fathom liking anything
Well no that's not the case, and I was worried someone would say that. I, like most people here, listen to tons of music. I like new bands as much as the next guy, it's just that all these bands overwhelm me. Def not bragging or anything. I am also not saying that I am better than having to listen to these bands. There as just so many of them and I haven't had that impulse to check them out yet.
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It doesn't matter what I'm looking for on Amazon, those Ariel Pink and Wavves albums are ALWAYS in the recommendations.
I think I was on the page for a Turkish teapot the other day and saw them.
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But I will say that I'd rather explore the In the Red catalogue or Goner or like Stax or something. What with the youth's fixation on new new new?
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I subscribe to Stereogum via RSS and tend to download all the free mp3s they offer. I find myself having a ton of this new dance indie pop stuff that while isn't exactly my cup of tea, isn't bad enough to make me want to get rid of them off of my computer.
But sometimes it feels like I've lost any ability to judge these songs anymore. They're just so light and fluffy that they don't withstand any sort of judgement and are just there.
Does any of that make sense?
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I subscribe to Stereogum via RSS and tend to download all the free mp3s they offer. I find myself having a ton of this new dance indie pop stuff that while isn't exactly my cup of tea, isn't bad enough to make me want to get rid of them off of my computer.
But sometimes it feels like I've lost any ability to judge these songs anymore. They're just so light and fluffy that they don't withstand any sort of judgement and are just there.
Does any of that make sense?
Exactly, yeah. Best Coast is the worst of that bunch, I think. Some of the laziest music I've ever heard in my life.
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But I will say that I'd rather explore the In the Red catalogue or Goner or like Stax or something. What with the youth's fixation on new new new?
what's coming out on in the red and goner is new.
what makes modern garage rock more relevant than anything else?
this whole thread is starting to drive me nuts
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what makes modern garage rock more relevant than anything else?
Don't think anyone can answer that to your liking.
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I subscribe to Stereogum via RSS and tend to download all the free mp3s they offer. I find myself having a ton of this new dance indie pop stuff that while isn't exactly my cup of tea, isn't bad enough to make me want to get rid of them off of my computer.
But sometimes it feels like I've lost any ability to judge these songs anymore. They're just so light and fluffy that they don't withstand any sort of judgement and are just there.
Does any of that make sense?
Exactly, yeah. Best Coast is the worst of that bunch, I think. Some of the laziest music I've ever heard in my life.
agreed, best coast is really bad.
but people need to have some fucking perspective. there's always been shit. older music often seems better because it's had the chance to stand the test of time.
if modern music isn't given a chance then you'll never discover what's good. if you are content with just listening to the same old stuff then great, that's your choice but don't generally dismiss everything that's happening because you're willfully out of touch.
the reason "the youth" are interested in new new new is because we want something that's ours. not something borrowed from past generations.
if this was 1969 you'd all be talking about how shitty the production value is on the stooges record and how the velvet underground are obnoxious hipster art students.
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if modern music isn't given a chance then you'll never discover what's good. if you are content with just listening to the same old stuff then great, that's your choice but don't generally dismiss everything that's happening because you're willfully out of touch.
the reason "the youth" are interested in new new new is because we want something that's ours. not something borrowed from past generations.
if this was 1969 you'd all be talking about how shitty the production value is on the stooges record and how the velvet underground are obnoxious hipster art students.
hmm. I think it's more that I enjoy the new music that is being made that is more my taste. Here is a listing of new-ish bands that I tend to enjoy:
Ernest Gonzales
Big Blood
Expo 70
Fuck Buttons
Pharoah Overlord
Parts & Labor/ Dan Friel
Noveller
Japandroids
...even today I heard a song called ‘Get Over Here, Disco! by a band called Starring and was like "hey I need to check out more of this".
I think perhaps that some folks get a bit overwhelmed by the massive amount of new bands/ music that seem to be churned out, and the resulting hype over the Next Big Thing (this week: Odd Future). I know I do.
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if modern music isn't given a chance then you'll never discover what's good. if you are content with just listening to the same old stuff then great, that's your choice but don't generally dismiss everything that's happening because you're willfully out of touch.
the reason "the youth" are interested in new new new is because we want something that's ours. not something borrowed from past generations.
if this was 1969 you'd all be talking about how shitty the production value is on the stooges record and how the velvet underground are obnoxious hipster art students.
hmm. I think it's more that I enjoy the new music that is being made that is more my taste. Here is a listing of new-ish bands that I tend to enjoy:
Ernest Gonzales
Big Blood
Expo 70
Fuck Buttons
Pharoah Overlord
Parts & Labor/ Dan Friel
Noveller
Japandroids
...even today I heard a song called ‘Get Over Here, Disco! by a band called Starring and was like "hey I need to check out more of this".
I think perhaps that some folks get a bit overwhelmed by the massive amount of new bands/ music that seem to be churned out, and the resulting hype over the Next Big Thing (this week: Odd Future). I know I do.
yeah. i totally get that. i have no problem with people liking or disliking music based on personal preference and experience with the thing they don't like. i still think the whole point of this thread, judging music based on the complete wrong reasons, is pointless, pretentious and dumb.
but, i was feeling ranty this morning so i may have taken what's probably a joke thread way to seriously. I listened to way to much hardcore in high school so it's hard for me to shake my fervent defense of the youth from cranky old dinosaurs.
of course, i still stand by my point, new and/or popular is not bad. if you can't stand to wade through the shit to find the gems then stay out of it.
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if modern music isn't given a chance then you'll never discover what's good. if you are content with just listening to the same old stuff then great, that's your choice but don't generally dismiss everything that's happening because you're willfully out of touch.
the reason "the youth" are interested in new new new is because we want something that's ours. not something borrowed from past generations.
if this was 1969 you'd all be talking about how shitty the production value is on the stooges record and how the velvet underground are obnoxious hipster art students.
hmm. I think it's more that I enjoy the new music that is being made that is more my taste. Here is a listing of new-ish bands that I tend to enjoy:
Ernest Gonzales
Big Blood
Expo 70
Fuck Buttons
Pharoah Overlord
Parts & Labor/ Dan Friel
Noveller
Japandroids
...even today I heard a song called ‘Get Over Here, Disco! by a band called Starring and was like "hey I need to check out more of this".
I think perhaps that some folks get a bit overwhelmed by the massive amount of new bands/ music that seem to be churned out, and the resulting hype over the Next Big Thing (this week: Odd Future). I know I do.
yeah. i totally get that. i have no problem with people liking or disliking music based on personal preference and experience with the thing they don't like. i still think the whole point of this thread, judging music based on the complete wrong reasons, is pointless, pretentious and dumb.
but, i was feeling ranty this morning so i may have taken what's probably a joke thread way to seriously. I listened to way to much hardcore in high school so it's hard for me to shake my fervent defense of the youth from cranky old dinosaurs.
of course, i still stand by my point, new and/or popular is not bad. if you can't stand to wade through the shit to find the gems then stay out of it.
I get what you're saying. I spotted myself feeling a little smug early on in this thread, and so I listened to some samples of Tori Amoi. For my part, a band's or musician's image is sometimes the only portal to their existence for me, so if someone looks like a goon, I might not even muster the energy to pass. It just becomes indifference.
If I count myself as a "cranky old dinosaur," I'll say that most of us listened to hardcore in high school and still do. Whatever that's worth.
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i still think the whole point of this thread, judging music based on the complete wrong reasons, is pointless, pretentious and dumb.
Are people not allowed anymore (http://friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php/topic,7592.msg166894.html#msg166894) to post about whatever illogical, complainy stuff they feel like, even if it doesn't reflect on them well? We're all friends here. This a forum for The Best Show, FFS.
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i still think the whole point of this thread, judging music based on the complete wrong reasons, is pointless, pretentious and dumb.
Are people not allowed anymore (http://friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php/topic,7592.msg166894.html#msg166894) to post about whatever illogical, complainy stuff they feel like, even if it doesn't reflect on them well? We're all friends here. This a forum for The Best Show, FFS.
i don't think anything i post reflects on me well.
but i see your point.
complain away.
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All boards have a tendency to drift towards "You take that opinion back!!!". But we're all friends here, so let's let it go, post another opinion that pisses people off, and move forward. I love you all unconditionally. But I still like Grand Funk.
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There may be room for differences of opinion even among old cynical assholes. E.g., I think Ariel Pink is pretty good. And "Hot Child in the City with bleeps and bloops" sounds like a description of a cool song, I'll have to check it out.
There was a time when the mediocre buzz bands of the day actually filled me with rage, they were so shitty. I think we're in a period where the stuff I don't like is just kind of dull.
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I subscribe to Stereogum via RSS and tend to download all the free mp3s they offer. I find myself having a ton of this new dance indie pop stuff that while isn't exactly my cup of tea, isn't bad enough to make me want to get rid of them off of my computer.
But sometimes it feels like I've lost any ability to judge these songs anymore. They're just so light and fluffy that they don't withstand any sort of judgement and are just there.
Does any of that make sense?
Exactly, yeah. Best Coast is the worst of that bunch, I think. Some of the laziest music I've ever heard in my life.
It's funny, I would say pretty much the opposite. Of that whole wave of recent Pitchfork 'best new music' bands mentioned above I think Best Coast is among the best. What a lot of people call repetitive and simplistic I like to think of as laser-tight focus on one aspect of girl-group pop to the point of self-conscious absurdity. That is probably a total misreading of her intentions, but who cares? To me it's like conceptual art with great hooks.